video: jets collide on tarmac minneapolis

[gatt]

Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!

http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

[Jose[_1_]]

> Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
>
> http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

At least you don't need flash.

The video shows the aircraft travelling quite fast - takeoff speed in
fact, on the taxi ramp. I bet the security camera that caught this last
year has a slow frame rate and they didn't compensate.

The captain had reported hydraulic problems in flight, the plane landed
safely and taxiied without assistance. Then the hydraulic system failed
- no brakes, no steering. Why would the captain not requested a tow
after landing with bad hydraulics? Could they have used reverse thrust?

Jose
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[Bob Noel]

In article >,
"gatt" > wrote:

> Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this.

definitely.

stupid web weenies.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Flyingmonk[_1_]]

gatt wrote:
> Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
>
> http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

Good thing the hyd. failed after successful landing. Secondly, good
thing there were no sparks to ignite the leaking fuel.


Monk

[John[_1_]]

Flyingmonk wrote:
> gatt wrote:
> > Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
> >
> > http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944
>
> Good thing the hyd. failed after successful landing. Secondly, good
> thing there were no sparks to ignite the leaking fuel.
>
>
> Monk

Interesting . . . but what motive force does the plane use to deploy
the reversers? . . perhaps hydrualics? Anyone have a DC-9/MD-80 POH
at hand?

Clearly someone's guardian angel need to go put her feet up at the end
of that day.

Blue skies . . .

John

[Morgans[_3_]]

"gatt" > wrote in message
...
> Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
>
> http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

Good thing that the tug had already unhooked after pushback. Without it
hooked up, at least there was some give in the standing plane.
--
Jim in NC

[tom418[_1_]]

FWIW, On the B727 (JT8D engines), high pressure bleed air activates the
reversers).
"John" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> Flyingmonk wrote:
> > gatt wrote:
> > > Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
> > >
> > > http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944
> >
> > Good thing the hyd. failed after successful landing. Secondly, good
> > thing there were no sparks to ignite the leaking fuel.
> >
> >
> > Monk
>
> Interesting . . . but what motive force does the plane use to deploy
> the reversers? . . perhaps hydrualics? Anyone have a DC-9/MD-80 POH
> at hand?
>
> Clearly someone's guardian angel need to go put her feet up at the end
> of that day.
>
> Blue skies . . .
>
> John
>

[John[_1_]]

tom418 wrote:
> FWIW, On the B727 (JT8D engines), high pressure bleed air activates the
> reversers).
> "John" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> > Flyingmonk wrote:
> > > gatt wrote:
> > > > Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
> > > >
> > > > http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944
> > >
> > > Good thing the hyd. failed after successful landing. Secondly, good
> > > thing there were no sparks to ignite the leaking fuel.
> > >
> > >
> > > Monk
> >
> > Interesting . . . but what motive force does the plane use to deploy
> > the reversers? . . perhaps hydrualics? Anyone have a DC-9/MD-80 POH
> > at hand?
> >
> > Clearly someone's guardian angel need to go put her feet up at the end
> > of that day.
> >
> > Blue skies . . .
> >
> > John
> >

OK Tom . . . so that suggests that the DC-9/MD-80 may also use bleed
air. Interesting.

[Matt Whiting]

Jose wrote:

>> Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
>>
>> http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944
>
>
> At least you don't need flash.
>
> The video shows the aircraft travelling quite fast - takeoff speed in
> fact, on the taxi ramp. I bet the security camera that caught this last
> year has a slow frame rate and they didn't compensate.

Takeoff speed?? Ha, ha, ha. Not even close. The airplane was going
barely faster than the cart tug that passed by earlier. I'll bet less
than 30 MPH which is just a wee bit less than TO speed for a typical jet.

Matt

[Jose[_1_]]

>> The video shows the aircraft travelling quite fast - takeoff speed in fact, on the taxi ramp. I bet the security camera that caught this last year has a slow frame rate and they didn't compensate.
>
> Takeoff speed?? Ha, ha, ha. Not even close. The airplane was going barely faster than the cart tug that passed by earlier. I'll bet less than 30 MPH which is just a wee bit less than TO speed for a typical jet.

Certainly the aircraft was not =actually= moving at takeoff speed.
However, the video does make it look that way. That's why I said it
looked like the film was speeded up.

Jose
--
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[Roger'[email protected]]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:51:48 GMT, Matt Whiting >
wrote:

>Jose wrote:
>
>>> Probably need IE or Netscrape to view this. Freaky!
>>>
>>> http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944

I never have been able to get that to run. It sets there and then
says it'd done.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


>>
>>
>> At least you don't need flash.
>>
>> The video shows the aircraft travelling quite fast - takeoff speed in
>> fact, on the taxi ramp. I bet the security camera that caught this last
>> year has a slow frame rate and they didn't compensate.
>
>Takeoff speed?? Ha, ha, ha. Not even close. The airplane was going
>barely faster than the cart tug that passed by earlier. I'll bet less
>than 30 MPH which is just a wee bit less than TO speed for a typical jet.
>
>Matt
Roger

[john smith]

In article >,
wrote:

> >>> http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=167944
>
> I never have been able to get that to run. It sets there and then
> says it'd done.

It won't even load for me because I don't have MSIE or NetScape.