Homebuilding Killed Walter Bussey

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I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.

This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.

I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
to make our skyways a safer place.

[Bret Ludwig]

wrote:
> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>
> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>
> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
> to make our skyways a safer place.

More people are killed in factory built airplanes, should those be
outlawed too?

[Steve Foley[_1_]]

WOW! This is incredible. Someone else had the EXACT (word-for-word - except
for names) same thoughts when they read about John Denver and John Walton


> wrote in message
ups.com...
> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>
> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>
> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
> to make our skyways a safer place.
>

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Steve Foley" > said:
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
>> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.

>WOW! This is incredible. Someone else had the EXACT (word-for-word - except
>for names) same thoughts when they read about John Denver and John Walton

I thought you must be exaggerating. So I looked it up:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/62e457d800d050f7
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/e7b4080bb204173f

Amazing. And what a coincidence: all three were posted by people who've
never posted to any newsgroup before or after.



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[Morgans[_3_]]

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[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, "Steve Foley" > said:
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>>> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
>>> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>
>>WOW! This is incredible. Someone else had the EXACT (word-for-word -
>>except
>>for names) same thoughts when they read about John Denver and John Walton
>
> I thought you must be exaggerating. So I looked it up:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/62e457d800d050f7
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/e7b4080bb204173f
>
> Amazing. And what a coincidence: all three were posted by people who've
> never posted to any newsgroup before or after.
>
>
>

An they do it once a year.

[Don W]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

> "Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>In a previous article, "Steve Foley" > said:
>>
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>>>
>>>>I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>>>>homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
>>>>be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>>
>>>WOW! This is incredible. Someone else had the EXACT (word-for-word -
>>>except
>>>for names) same thoughts when they read about John Denver and John Walton
>>
>>I thought you must be exaggerating. So I looked it up:
>>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/62e457d800d050f7
>>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/e7b4080bb204173f
>>
>>Amazing. And what a coincidence: all three were posted by people who've
>>never posted to any newsgroup before or after.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> An they do it once a year.

Yeah, and they haven't even thought about how many
people die in nursing homes and hospitals. Those
damn places ought to be outlawed...They're
downright unhealthy.

Don W.

[Peter Dohm]

"Don W" > wrote in message
m...
>
>
> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>
> > "Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>In a previous article, "Steve Foley" > said:
> >>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> >>>
> >>>>I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> >>>>homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
> >>>>be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
> >>
> >>>WOW! This is incredible. Someone else had the EXACT (word-for-word -
> >>>except
> >>>for names) same thoughts when they read about John Denver and John
Walton
> >>
> >>I thought you must be exaggerating. So I looked it up:
>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/62e457d800d050f7
>
>>http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/e7b4080bb204173f
> >>
> >>Amazing. And what a coincidence: all three were posted by people who've
> >>never posted to any newsgroup before or after.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > An they do it once a year.
>
> Yeah, and they haven't even thought about how many
> people die in nursing homes and hospitals. Those
> damn places ought to be outlawed...They're
> downright unhealthy.
>
> Don W.
>
George Washington said it best: "Hospitals are the sinks of human life."

s.o.s., different day.
Peter

[Cal]

Sorry, but who the H is Walter Bussey???


On 8 Aug 2006 06:00:09 -0700, wrote:

>I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
>be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>
>This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
>building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
>people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>
>I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
>large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
>to make our skyways a safer place.

[Montblack[_1_]]

("Don W" wrote)
> Yeah, and they haven't even thought about how many people die in nursing
> homes and hospitals. Those damn places ought to be outlawed...They're
> downright unhealthy.


Recent events suggest - much like airplanes - when they lose power, things
get ...interesting.


Montblack

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> said:
>"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
>> I thought you must be exaggerating. So I looked it up:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/62e457d800d050f7
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/msg/e7b4080bb204173f
>>
>> Amazing. And what a coincidence: all three were posted by people who've
>> never posted to any newsgroup before or after.
>
>An they do it once a year.

I wonder if they mark it on the calendar or have it in their PDA:
"August 1st: Troll rec.aviation.homebuilt. Repeats: Yearly"


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"Guns don't shoot people. Vice Presidents shoot people."

[Kyle Boatright]

"Don W" > wrote in message
m...
>

<<snip>>
>
> Yeah, and they haven't even thought about how many people die in nursing
> homes and hospitals. Those damn places ought to be outlawed...They're
> downright unhealthy.
>
> Don W.

Even worse, if you're statistics, you should absolutely refuse to accept
oxygen when you're in the hospital. ;-) If you do a histogram of patients
who die and the what treatments they were recieving, oxygen is the most
common by a wide range.

KB

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Kyle Boatright
says...

>
>Even worse, if you're statistics, you should absolutely refuse to accept
>oxygen when you're in the hospital. ;-) If you do a histogram of patients
>who die and the what treatments they were recieving, oxygen is the most
>common by a wide range.

....and don't lie down, more people die flat on their backs then in any other
position.Another stastic I read is that more people die from death than any
other reason. hmmmm

See ya
Chuck (from a distance things seem far away) S

[J.Kahn]

Cal wrote:
> Sorry, but who the H is Walter Bussey???
>
>
> On 8 Aug 2006 06:00:09 -0700, wrote:
>
>> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
>> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>>
>> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
>> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
>> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>>
>> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
>> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
>> to make our skyways a safer place.

The guy who was killed by homebuilding!!! He was a contractor, who had
to skimp on structure of a new home because he'd spent too much money
building an amateur built aircraft, and the new home collapsed on him,
killing him.

John

[stol]

Rumor has it he didn't get the proper 337 form when he deleted the
trusses on his new house. I also heard the home "slammed into the
ground" too. Poor guy....
J.Kahn wrote:
> Cal wrote:
> > Sorry, but who the H is Walter Bussey???
> >
> >
> > On 8 Aug 2006 06:00:09 -0700, wrote:
> >
> >> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> >> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
> >> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
> >>
> >> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
> >> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
> >> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
> >>
> >> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
> >> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
> >> to make our skyways a safer place.
>
> The guy who was killed by homebuilding!!! He was a contractor, who had
> to skimp on structure of a new home because he'd spent too much money
> building an amateur built aircraft, and the new home collapsed on him,
> killing him.
>
> John

[Montblack[_1_]]

("stol" wrote)
> Rumor has it he didn't get the proper 337 form when he deleted the trusses
> on his new house. I also heard the home "slammed into the ground" too.
> Poor guy....


I heard he pushed forward on the stick, or pulled back on the stick,
whatever. It was a temporary support for the center beam - he needed to keep
his hands OFF the stick.

I bet THAT made some noise.


Montblack

[Jim Logajan]

Cal > wrote:
> Sorry, but who the H is Walter Bussey???

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2006/08/08/plane-crash.html

"A resident of Merritt Island, Fla., died when his light plane crashed
shortly after takeoff just south of the Regina airport Friday afternoon,
according to Regina police.

Walter Stephen Bussey, 52, was the pilot and lone occupant of a home-built,
single-engine plane that crashed in a farm field about a kilometre south of
the airport.

The Wheeler Express FT was on its way to Saskatoon, en route to Alaska,
when it went down at around 5:14 p.m."

[Peter Dohm]

"Anthony W" > wrote in message
news:RghCg.17812$Qu4.13080@trnddc04...
> Richard Riley wrote:
> > On 8 Aug 2006 19:19:16 -0700, ChuckSlusarczyk
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> In article >, Kyle
Boatright
> >> says...
> >>
> >>> Even worse, if you're statistics, you should absolutely refuse to
accept
> >>> oxygen when you're in the hospital. ;-) If you do a histogram of
patients
> >>> who die and the what treatments they were recieving, oxygen is the
most
> >>> common by a wide range.
> >> ...and don't lie down, more people die flat on their backs then in any
other
> >> position.Another stastic I read is that more people die from death than
any
> >> other reason. hmmmm
> >
> > Chuck, it's that damned Dihydrogen Oxide. They keep passing it
> > around, telling people it's good for them. But more than 95% of the
> > people that have died in the last year have had Dihydrogen Oxide
> > within 12 hours of their deaths. The local coroner says every autopsy
> > he does shows traces of it. It's a killer.
>
> You're thinking of dihydrogen monoxide and yes it can be a killer.
>
> Tony

True and terrifying. Thinking back, everyone I've know who has since passed
away injested some of that compound shortly before their death.

Peter

Come to think of it, I was already exposed to more than once today.
Oh God!
:-(

[ccwillwerth]

Your right Mrs. No-Name, it is disturbing. It's disturbing that someone
that has no idea what he/she is talking about would make such an uninformed
statement. You must be a politician.

As it goes, homebuilts and homebuilt pilots have a better record than the
factory built spam cans and your low time, low rent, Saturday afternoon once
every two months type pilot and plane.

If you think about it, what makes the craftsmen building a Boeing 747 any
smarter, stronger, or better in ANY way than the builder of an aircraft at
home. In fact, the person that builds the homebuilt really cares about the
quality of the aircraft because his backside will be sitting in the seat,
and it's face that will be smashed if he does not pay attention to the
details.

On the other hand, how many of the "Factory built" aircraft receive ANY love
and concern for the finished product. By some of the things I have seen,
the people building those spam cans are only lookinng to do their one little
task over and over, not really seeing or caring about the final product,
getting off work, and picking up a six-pack. If they make a part wrong and
it might pass, Hey!, don't tell the boss, he might get mad, just pass it on.

It's time for you to either learn a little about what you are talking about
before you speak, or just go back to your soap operas and game shows and
leave the technical world to those that understand it.

By the way....... What males you think the aircraft was at fault?

Charlie

Note: It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and
remove all doubt!

> wrote in message
ups.com...
>I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>
> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>
> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
> to make our skyways a safer place.
>

[UltraJohn]

ccwillwerth wrote:

> Your right Mrs. No-Name, it is disturbing. It's disturbing that someone
> that has no idea what he/she is talking about would make such an
> uninformed
> statement. You must be a politician.
>

<snip>

> wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
>> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>>
>> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
>> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
>> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>>
>> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
>> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
>> to make our skyways a safer place.
>>


No this person is nothing more than a flame thrower.He/she/it shows up about
twice a year to stir up the hornets nest so they/it can get their/it's
rocks off( if they have any!).
Just ignore him/her/it.
John

[Steve Foley[_1_]]

Actually, he was working on the homebuilt inside his garage (under the
house) when the house slammed into his plane.

"stol" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Rumor has it he didn't get the proper 337 form when he deleted the
> trusses on his new house. I also heard the home "slammed into the
> ground" too. Poor guy....
> J.Kahn wrote:
> > Cal wrote:
> > > Sorry, but who the H is Walter Bussey???
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8 Aug 2006 06:00:09 -0700, wrote:
> > >
> > >> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> > >> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that might
> > >> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
> > >>
> > >> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
> > >> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is endangering
> > >> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
> > >>
> > >> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
> > >> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
> > >> to make our skyways a safer place.
> >
> > The guy who was killed by homebuilding!!! He was a contractor, who had
> > to skimp on structure of a new home because he'd spent too much money
> > building an amateur built aircraft, and the new home collapsed on him,
> > killing him.
> >
> > John
>

[Montblack[_1_]]

("Steve Foley" wrote)
> Actually, he was working on the homebuilt inside his garage (under the
> house) when the house slammed into his plane.


The attorney(s) for the homebuilder (Sticks and Stones Inc) pointed out that
his client's work had been signed off by various City inspectors. The same
could not be said of the structure under construction by the (tube and
fabric) homebuilder - the deceased.

The same said structure was found wrapped around the ...victim, at the
bottom of the rubble pile. According to emergency personnel, it was as if
the deceased were seated in it at the time of his untimely demise.

"Furthermore, two flattened sawhorses found at the scene appear to be
related to the homebuilder's tube and fabric project and did not belong to
his client." claimed the attorney for the homebuilder's homebuilder.

"Therefore," Sticks and Stones Inc's attorney concluded, "Any [grieving
widow] lawsuit(s) should be directed at the "homebuilt" kit manufacturer,
along with any and all entities, representing various "uninspected"
installed components."

In a possible related story, Harbor Freight, UPS, FedEX and Visa are all
seeking litigation protection, in court, by filing for bankruptsy. These
companies will most likely emerge from bankruptsy as New Harbor Freight,
NEWUPS, NewFedEx, and New Visa.


Montblack

[Jeff[_1_]]

No no, he stalled the house, which we all know means the furnace quit, which
immediately caused the house to fall out of the sky like a rock.

jf

"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, he was working on the homebuilt inside his garage (under the
> house) when the house slammed into his plane.
>
> "stol" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Rumor has it he didn't get the proper 337 form when he deleted the
>> trusses on his new house. I also heard the home "slammed into the
>> ground" too. Poor guy....
>> J.Kahn wrote:
>> > Cal wrote:
>> > > Sorry, but who the H is Walter Bussey???
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 8 Aug 2006 06:00:09 -0700, wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
>> > >> homebuilt airplane? That got me thinking to look for a NG that
>> > >> might
>> > >> be dedicated to this activity, and I found this one.
>> > >>
>> > >> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing. People are
>> > >> building airplanes at home and then flying them? This is
>> > >> endangering
>> > >> people on the ground and in the air flying in real airplanes.
>> > >>
>> > >> I guess the good thing from Mr. Bussey's death is that the public at
>> > >> large knows about this practice, and maybe can do something about it
>> > >> to make our skyways a safer place.
>> >
>> > The guy who was killed by homebuilding!!! He was a contractor, who had
>> > to skimp on structure of a new home because he'd spent too much money
>> > building an amateur built aircraft, and the new home collapsed on him,
>> > killing him.
>> >
>> > John
>>
>
>

[wright1902glider]

So um, lemme get this straight... If I worked in a factory, and I
built a plane in a factory, then its a "real" airplane, and that would
be OK.

Cool! I drove a forklift in a plastics plant for nearly a year. We
made plastic meat-packing trays. Plenty of space in the plant to hide
my building activities (behind that big stack of obsolete stuff they'll
never sell.) That oughta do it!

Oh wait! A thought! She did say "home" built. So um, if I built a
plane in my uncle's barn, that would be a barnbuilt. Or perhaps in the
wheatfield behind the house? Would that be a wheatbuilt, or is that a
fieldbuilt? And if I drive up Boulder Creek canyon a few miles and
built a plane in the mountains, would that make it a canyonbuilt, a
mountainbuilt, a Ned-built, or perhaps an
OLD-DIRTY-HIPPIE-COUNTRY-BUILT!

WOOHOO !
Shrink............................................ .................................................. .................................................. ..........................
I wanna kill... I wanna see crashes -n- flames, -n- bodies, -n- parts
flyin in the air -n- blood -n- guts in my teeth, I wanna kill....
kill... KILL!

Harry "maybe I've gone a little too Colorado" Frey

[Gene Seibel]

Those Wright Brothers started all this. They should have gone out and
bought an airplane.
--
Gene Seibel
Tales of Flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.

wrote:
> I just read in the newspaper that Walter Bussey was killed in a
> This is all new to me, quite honestly, and disturbing.

[Lou]

You do know that the original poster here, is from Jacksonville Fl. I
guess they should have outlawed homebuilding sooner.

[Cal]

OMG! I recently installed "Gutter Guards", and now, I'm concerned
about the boundary layer being disrupted and the house settling
regardless of control input. I've always heard it's unwise to fool
with the original design...


On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:12:56 -0500, "Jeff" <jfranks1971 minus
> wrote:

>No no, he stalled the house, which we all know means the furnace quit, which
>immediately caused the house to fall out of the sky like a rock.
>
>jf
>
>"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
>> Actually, he was working on the homebuilt inside his garage (under the
>> house) when the house slammed into his plane.
>>

[Jim Carriere]

Cal wrote:
> OMG! I recently installed "Gutter Guards", and now, I'm concerned
> about the boundary layer being disrupted and the house settling
> regardless of control input. I've always heard it's unwise to fool
> with the original design...

Boundary layer effects depend on the Reynolds Number, which in this
example have practical considerations of roof dimensions and whether or
not you live in hurricane country...

PS
If the "Gutter Guards" weren't STC'ed, so may really be experimenting.

[Roger[_4_]]

On 11 Aug 2006 11:54:37 -0700, "wright1902glider"
> wrote:

>So um, lemme get this straight... If I worked in a factory, and I
>built a plane in a factory, then its a "real" airplane, and that would
>be OK.
>
>Cool! I drove a forklift in a plastics plant for nearly a year. We
>made plastic meat-packing trays. Plenty of space in the plant to hide
>my building activities (behind that big stack of obsolete stuff they'll
>never sell.) That oughta do it!
>
>Oh wait! A thought! She did say "home" built. So um, if I built a
>plane in my uncle's barn, that would be a barnbuilt. Or perhaps in the
>wheatfield behind the house? Would that be a wheatbuilt, or is that a

No, that would make it professionally built as you work in the field.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
>fieldbuilt? And if I drive up Boulder Creek canyon a few miles and
>built a plane in the mountains, would that make it a canyonbuilt, a
>mountainbuilt, a Ned-built, or perhaps an
>OLD-DIRTY-HIPPIE-COUNTRY-BUILT!
>
>WOOHOO !
>Shrink............................................ .................................................. .................................................. ..........................
>I wanna kill... I wanna see crashes -n- flames, -n- bodies, -n- parts
>flyin in the air -n- blood -n- guts in my teeth, I wanna kill....
>kill... KILL!
>
>Harry "maybe I've gone a little too Colorado" Frey
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Jim+Peggy]

I guess my question would be ummmm JUST WHO IS WALTER BUSSEY?

Jim Hiemstra

"Jim Carriere" > wrote in message
. ..
> Cal wrote:
>> OMG! I recently installed "Gutter Guards", and now, I'm concerned
>> about the boundary layer being disrupted and the house settling
>> regardless of control input. I've always heard it's unwise to fool
>> with the original design...
>
> Boundary layer effects depend on the Reynolds Number, which in this
> example have practical considerations of roof dimensions and whether or
> not you live in hurricane country...
>
> PS
> If the "Gutter Guards" weren't STC'ed, so may really be experimenting.