Jay's "Plane Crash Video Ubersite"

[Peter Duniho]

I had to laugh. :) Jay's aviation video web site is famous now (well,
about as famous as you can get on the Internet), except that it's being
touted as specifically a web site for aviation crashes.

http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/10/plane_crash_video_ub.html

But they do say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Right? :) And
besides, I guess there ARE a lot of crashes there. All in the name of pilot
education, last I heard. :)

[Jay Honeck]

> I had to laugh. :) Jay's aviation video web site is famous now (well,
> about as famous as you can get on the Internet), except that it's being
> touted as specifically a web site for aviation crashes.
>
> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/10/plane_crash_video_ub.html
>
> But they do say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Right? :) And
> besides, I guess there ARE a lot of crashes there. All in the name of pilot
> education, last I heard. :

Interesting. Sadly, I haven't had a lick of time since early July to
update the site -- and I'm getting letters of concern from all over the
world! This little side page has exploded into (what could be) a
full-time job, and regular visitors are truly upset that I haven't
posted an update in almost a month. Be careful what you start doing in
your "spare" time...

But the videos keep coming, whether I upload 'em or not. I've probably
got 30 new ones sitting on my PC, for the time when I get a few hours
to upload 'em.

I've worked hard to keep it from becoming a "train wreck" site, adding
as many NTSB links and intelligent commentary as possible. Most people
appreciate the effort -- but some, like the guy who has "discovered" us
-- apparently only go there for the thrill.

Too bad.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Crashman]

Well, the wonders of Google... Yes, I am "the guy" who submitted that item
to BoingBoing yesterday, a pilot since 1974 and a contributor of several
of the vids that Jay so generously hosts. Please- what could I say about
his page except that it's just FULL of great crashes? "Great aviation
media page" lacks fire and distinction. And now I know to hold up on the 4
new vids I have here for Jay (did you know you were a "hotelier/pilot"?),
cos' he's still busy remodelling!

We all grapple with the train wreck aspect of these things; crashes and
mishaps are mysterious, tragic, educational, awesome, terrible, and yes,
fascinating. Jay's done a great job of handling this on the page, but I
too have to laugh - puts up a page with all those crashes and then people
who love it are revolting morbid thrill-seekers? LOL. OK, guilty as
charged! And making music videos out of them strung together is carrying
it a bit far, and may indeed be a sign of need for professional help... .


I'd put it this way: of course we all like best the ones where only the
airplane gets bent and everyone walks away with great hangar stories. But
our avocation isn't like golf; we gamble everything every time we aviate.
I think we are fascinated by accident videos for the same reason that none
of us can ever resist watching someone else land. "There but for the grace
of God.."

Jay is not at all morbid and his page is the best of its kind out there, I
think mostly because Jay and Mary are real aviators. And no, there is no
such thing as bad publicity, not on the Net anyway. I hope! He deserves to
be famous because he has built something uniquely great, as he does when he
writes articles, givs interviews, sponsors community and charity and kids'
events. Yes, it would be almost worthless without the great informed
commentary, but with it - Kaaa-zocko!

So please take the little publicity bump as a sincere tribute Jay, Boing^2
gets about a million hits a day. You have made a fantastic resource here
that deserves a little more recognition outside of the Net aviation
community. Hope it puts some more bods (breathing ones!)in your suites,
pal.

- Crashman

PS: Check out this new place guys, it has some very nice new French
maneuvering and is clearly set up to attract all us horrible morbid
flying-trainwreck ghouls:
http://www.1001crash.com/index-page-accueil-lg-2.html

It's simple. Like my old instructor said, "Just don't crash and you'll be
fine."

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[Peter Duniho]

"Crashman" > wrote in message
news:b123c4eb08ffa592cabed8c56217188f@aviatorlive. com...
> [...] Please- what could I say about
> his page except that it's just FULL of great crashes?

There's lots you could say other than that, especially since there's plenty
there besides crashes. What an odd question.

[Martin Hotze[_1_]]

On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:02:50 -0500, Crashman wrote:

>Well, the wonders of Google... Yes, I am "the guy" who submitted that item
>to BoingBoing yesterday, a pilot since 1974 and a contributor of several
>of the vids that Jay so generously hosts.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

IIRC he has more or less free hosting on Jav's server(s).

#m
--
Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider
that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough
space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize
this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bull**** nobody will read.

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Martin Hotze > wrote:

> >Well, the wonders of Google... Yes, I am "the guy" who submitted that item
> >to BoingBoing yesterday, a pilot since 1974 and a contributor of several
> >of the vids that Jay so generously hosts.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> IIRC he has more or less free hosting on Jav's server(s).

Which may explain why Jay can be so generous. :-)

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Jay Honeck]

> > IIRC he has more or less free hosting on Jav's server(s).
>
> Which may explain why Jay can be so generous. :-)

Absolutely!

This group's own Jav Henderson deserves (and always receives, when I'm
around) credit for hosting our website, in all its glory. I would put
accreditation on the site for Jav, but I'm afraid he'd be swamped with
requests from people looking for web hosting service -- and I know he's
got better things to do with his time...

I donate my time to the video page -- Jav donates the bandwidth.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[BassPilot]

"Peter Duniho" > wrote in
:

> http://www.boingboing.net/2006/08/10/plane_crash_video_ub.html

The publicity has grown a little beyond Boing Boing. A link to a short
article about the site turned up on my Google homepage this morning under
the cNet News.com category. Here's the page with the article:
http://tinyurl.com/lm4c8.

Hope your bandwidth holds up, Jay!

Steve DeMoss
N16071

[Martin Hotze[_1_]]

On 12 Aug 2006 09:21:21 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:

>Wow -- thanks for the recommendation, Crash...I think. All of a
>sudden, I'm getting complaints from all over the world about how "slow"
>the site is.

ahh! /.ed ... sort of. :-)

>And this after Jav spent untold hours updating his
>servers to handle the volume, too!

maybe now it is the bandwidth he has available and not the server itself.

#m
--
Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider
that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough
space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize
this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bull**** nobody will read.

[Martin Hotze[_1_]]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:00:25 GMT, BassPilot wrote:

>Hope your bandwidth holds up, Jay!

s/Jay/Jav

#m
--
Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider
that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough
space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize
this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bull**** nobody will read.

[[email protected]]

Here's a great audio file that I think belongs on Jay's website. Beware if
you check out any other stuff on Consumption Junction, the site
unfortunately has a lot of porn, and some other really disgusting things.
But, this audio is pretty funny, but you have to feel sorry for the fighter
jock backseater. If anyone has the rest of the story about what happened
here (unit, type aircraft, when) I'd love to hear it.
Scott Wilson

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/content/detail.asp?ID=2702&type=2&page=1&fav=0

[Crashman]

>Wow -- thanks for the recommendation, Crash...I think. All of a
>sudden, I'm getting complaints from all over the world about how "slow"
>the site is. And this after Jav spent untold hours updating his
>servers to handle the volume, too!
>
>After getting concerned emails from all over the world, because I actually
hadn't updated the site since mid-July, I've just added nine new
video/audio files. Mary's already ****ed at me for "wasting so much time
on that dumb website"....but I figured I *had* to add some new ones, now
that we're "famous"!
>:-) Jay Honeck
>Iowa City, IA
>Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
-------

Well you're welcome Jay... I hope! Your light could not hide itself
forever. I didn't think a fullscale slashdotting would result, even tho
Boing^2 supposedly gets about 1M hits/day. Hm - must be a big crossover
betw. the technogeek and plane crash crowd. I didn't mean to overemphasize
the morbid, but as you know from your congenial discussions with the
notorious Mr. Fighter Pilot Henrique5, we are unlikely to ever please
everyone on that issue.

Pls. tell Jav the BW load should drop soon as the post scrolls offa BB's
frontpage, (interesting to see how Cnet monitors Boing^2, isn't it?).
Please consider this the inevitable result of your world- class work here
gentlemen, and forgive me for wrenching you to new heights of fame.

It is a tribute to both you and the good people who make up the Net that
despite the existence of many other sites expressly devoted to aviation
safety, mishaps, and vids (airdisaster, planecrashinfo, etc.), Alexis Park
Inn has emerged as a (if not THE) leader in unusual errr ahhh, "aviation
safety" vids. Please also explain to Mary that you are not "wasting time"
- what you are doing here is "skilfully positioning your commercial
hospitality offerings with inspired viral net marketing, while delivering
a much-appreciated and provably in-demand service to the aviation Internet
community that comprises an enormous potential customerbase. Thus
brilliantly leveraging your personal Web skills and in-demand content to
exponentially force-multiply Alexis Park Inn's limited marketing and
advertising resources." I would be interested to know her reply (I'm
married too and know you will get a good one.)

Jay and Jav, with lots of good old-fashioned persistent work, have given
something quite valuable to the Internet and the aviation community. So
take warning gentlemen... you might actually become - ghaack - popular! :)


- Crashman

It's simple. Like my old instructor said, "Just don't crash and you'll be
fine."

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[Jim Macklin]

Note to Alexis --Downloading the Beech Down Low video, very
large file 52 MB but I'm only getting 26 KB sec, rather than
the 300-500 KB/sec I expect to get. Your server may be
capped or just very busy.



"Crashman" > wrote in message
news:489efe1e3e715cd2b5f5a850ddfa5f52@aviatorlive. com...
|
| >Wow -- thanks for the recommendation, Crash...I think.
All of a
| >sudden, I'm getting complaints from all over the world
about how "slow"
| >the site is. And this after Jav spent untold hours
updating his
| >servers to handle the volume, too!
| >
| >After getting concerned emails from all over the world,
because I actually
| hadn't updated the site since mid-July, I've just added
nine new
| video/audio files. Mary's already ****ed at me for
"wasting so much time
| on that dumb website"....but I figured I *had* to add some
new ones, now
| that we're "famous"!
| >:-) Jay Honeck
| >Iowa City, IA
| >Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
| -------
|
| Well you're welcome Jay... I hope! Your light could not
hide itself
| forever. I didn't think a fullscale slashdotting would
result, even tho
| Boing^2 supposedly gets about 1M hits/day. Hm - must be a
big crossover
| betw. the technogeek and plane crash crowd. I didn't mean
to overemphasize
| the morbid, but as you know from your congenial
discussions with the
| notorious Mr. Fighter Pilot Henrique5, we are unlikely to
ever please
| everyone on that issue.
|
| Pls. tell Jav the BW load should drop soon as the post
scrolls offa BB's
| frontpage, (interesting to see how Cnet monitors Boing^2,
isn't it?).
| Please consider this the inevitable result of your world-
class work here
| gentlemen, and forgive me for wrenching you to new heights
of fame.
|
| It is a tribute to both you and the good people who make
up the Net that
| despite the existence of many other sites expressly
devoted to aviation
| safety, mishaps, and vids (airdisaster, planecrashinfo,
etc.), Alexis Park
| Inn has emerged as a (if not THE) leader in unusual errr
ahhh, "aviation
| safety" vids. Please also explain to Mary that you are not
"wasting time"
| - what you are doing here is "skilfully positioning your
commercial
| hospitality offerings with inspired viral net marketing,
while delivering
| a much-appreciated and provably in-demand service to the
aviation Internet
| community that comprises an enormous potential
customerbase. Thus
| brilliantly leveraging your personal Web skills and
in-demand content to
| exponentially force-multiply Alexis Park Inn's limited
marketing and
| advertising resources." I would be interested to know her
reply (I'm
| married too and know you will get a good one.)
|
| Jay and Jav, with lots of good old-fashioned persistent
work, have given
| something quite valuable to the Internet and the aviation
community. So
| take warning gentlemen... you might actually become -
ghaack - popular! :)
|
|
| - Crashman
|
| It's simple. Like my old instructor said, "Just don't
crash and you'll be
| fine."
|
| ____________________________________
| Posted via Aviatorlive.com
| http://www.aviatorlive.com

[Jim Macklin]

Note to Jay
"Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message news:pBvDg.2199$SZ3.982@dukeread04...
| Note to Alexis --Downloading the Beech Down Low video,
very
| large file 52 MB but I'm only getting 26 KB sec, rather
than
| the 300-500 KB/sec I expect to get. Your server may be
| capped or just very busy.
|
|
|
| "Crashman" > wrote in message
| news:489efe1e3e715cd2b5f5a850ddfa5f52@aviatorlive. com...
||
|| >Wow -- thanks for the recommendation, Crash...I think.
| All of a
|| >sudden, I'm getting complaints from all over the world
| about how "slow"
|| >the site is. And this after Jav spent untold hours
| updating his
|| >servers to handle the volume, too!
|| >
|| >After getting concerned emails from all over the world,
| because I actually
|| hadn't updated the site since mid-July, I've just added
| nine new
|| video/audio files. Mary's already ****ed at me for
| "wasting so much time
|| on that dumb website"....but I figured I *had* to add
some
| new ones, now
|| that we're "famous"!
|| >:-) Jay Honeck
|| >Iowa City, IA
|| >Pathfinder N56993
|| www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination"
|| -------
||
|| Well you're welcome Jay... I hope! Your light could not
| hide itself
|| forever. I didn't think a fullscale slashdotting would
| result, even tho
|| Boing^2 supposedly gets about 1M hits/day. Hm - must be a
| big crossover
|| betw. the technogeek and plane crash crowd. I didn't mean
| to overemphasize
|| the morbid, but as you know from your congenial
| discussions with the
|| notorious Mr. Fighter Pilot Henrique5, we are unlikely to
| ever please
|| everyone on that issue.
||
|| Pls. tell Jav the BW load should drop soon as the post
| scrolls offa BB's
|| frontpage, (interesting to see how Cnet monitors Boing^2,
| isn't it?).
|| Please consider this the inevitable result of your world-
| class work here
|| gentlemen, and forgive me for wrenching you to new
heights
| of fame.
||
|| It is a tribute to both you and the good people who make
| up the Net that
|| despite the existence of many other sites expressly
| devoted to aviation
|| safety, mishaps, and vids (airdisaster, planecrashinfo,
| etc.), Alexis Park
|| Inn has emerged as a (if not THE) leader in unusual errr
| ahhh, "aviation
|| safety" vids. Please also explain to Mary that you are
not
| "wasting time"
|| - what you are doing here is "skilfully positioning your
| commercial
|| hospitality offerings with inspired viral net marketing,
| while delivering
|| a much-appreciated and provably in-demand service to the
| aviation Internet
|| community that comprises an enormous potential
| customerbase. Thus
|| brilliantly leveraging your personal Web skills and
| in-demand content to
|| exponentially force-multiply Alexis Park Inn's limited
| marketing and
|| advertising resources." I would be interested to know
her
| reply (I'm
|| married too and know you will get a good one.)
||
|| Jay and Jav, with lots of good old-fashioned persistent
| work, have given
|| something quite valuable to the Internet and the aviation
| community. So
|| take warning gentlemen... you might actually become -
| ghaack - popular! :)
||
||
|| - Crashman
||
|| It's simple. Like my old instructor said, "Just don't
| crash and you'll be
|| fine."
||
|| ____________________________________
|| Posted via Aviatorlive.com
|| http://www.aviatorlive.com
|
|

[Jay Honeck]

> Please also explain to Mary that you are not "wasting time"
> - what you are doing here is "skilfully positioning your commercial
> hospitality offerings with inspired viral net marketing, while delivering
> a much-appreciated and provably in-demand service to the aviation Internet
> community that comprises an enormous potential customerbase. Thus
> brilliantly leveraging your personal Web skills and in-demand content to
> exponentially force-multiply Alexis Park Inn's limited marketing and
> advertising resources."

Wow -- what a load of bullsh*t.

But...it's truly very, very *good* bullsh*t...thanks!

:-)

> I would be interested to know her reply (I'm
> married too and know you will get a good one.)

Mary and I have been together, one way or 'nother, for 30 years now.
There ain't NO WAY I could feed her a line like that, without (a)
getting my butt stomped, or (b) starting to giggle half-way through
it...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Mary and I have been together, one way or 'nother, for 30 years now.
> There ain't NO WAY I could feed her a line like that, without (a)
> getting my butt stomped, or (b) starting to giggle half-way through
> it...

You giggle halfway through a butt stomping? That must really irk her! :-)

Matt

[Crashman]

Jay said:
Wow -- what a load of bullsh*t.
But...it's truly very, very *good* bullsh*t...thanks!
:-)

I know some people who get paid large sums of money for talking exactly
like that.


It's simple. Like my old instructor said, "Just don't crash and you'll be
fine."

____________________________________
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[Matt Whiting]

Crashman wrote:

> Jay said:
> Wow -- what a load of bullsh*t.
> But...it's truly very, very *good* bullsh*t...thanks!
> :-)
>
> I know some people who get paid large sums of money for talking exactly
> like that.

But they have to get elected first! :-)

Matt

[Dudley Henriques[_1_]]

"Crashman" > wrote in message
news:489efe1e3e715cd2b5f5a850ddfa5f52@aviatorlive. com...
I didn't mean to overemphasize
> the morbid, but as you know from your congenial discussions with the
> notorious Mr. Fighter Pilot Henrique5, we are unlikely to ever please
> everyone on that issue.

That's Dudley Henriques, and I'm only notorious for getting out of yard
work!
DH