Letter from TSA?

[Emily[_1_]]

Got one this week (or last week, I've been out of town) that says that
new rules for CFI's have been implemented, etc, etc, etc. The odd thing
is, it looks like it was printed on a $50 printer and wasn't even in an
official envelope like I'm used to seeing from the FAA. It really only
had a bunch of links in the letter. Has anyone gotten this?

[Robert M. Gary]

I've not gotten anything or heard of any recent changes. I'm a
authorized foriegn training provider CFI so I would assume I'd get
notified.

-Robert, CFI

Emily wrote:
> Got one this week (or last week, I've been out of town) that says that
> new rules for CFI's have been implemented, etc, etc, etc. The odd thing
> is, it looks like it was printed on a $50 printer and wasn't even in an
> official envelope like I'm used to seeing from the FAA. It really only
> had a bunch of links in the letter. Has anyone gotten this?

[Jim Macklin]

Emily, do you have a scanner? Scan and post the letter as
text and ask your question again. It could somebody has
thought of a "practical joke" and got your address somehow.
Be sure to edit out your personal name and address/phone if
they are on the letter.


"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in message
oups.com...
| I've not gotten anything or heard of any recent changes.
I'm a
| authorized foriegn training provider CFI so I would assume
I'd get
| notified.
|
| -Robert, CFI
|
| Emily wrote:
| > Got one this week (or last week, I've been out of town)
that says that
| > new rules for CFI's have been implemented, etc, etc,
etc. The odd thing
| > is, it looks like it was printed on a $50 printer and
wasn't even in an
| > official envelope like I'm used to seeing from the FAA.
It really only
| > had a bunch of links in the letter. Has anyone gotten
this?
|

[Emily[_1_]]

Jim Macklin wrote:
> Emily, do you have a scanner? Scan and post the letter as
> text and ask your question again. It could somebody has
> thought of a "practical joke" and got your address somehow.
> Be sure to edit out your personal name and address/phone if
> they are on the letter.

Scanner doesn't work with the new computer, but I type fast.

"Dear Certified Flight Instructor:

According to FAA records, you are listed as a Certificated Flight
Instructor (CFI) as described in 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR)
Part 61. This letter is to inform you of new requirements which may be
applicable to the flight instruction you provide and to let you know who
you can contact should you have any questions.

On September 20, 2004, 49 CFR 1552 was issued by the Transportation
Security Administration. According to the new regulation, CFI's are
required to take certain action when providing flight instruction to all
flight students seeking specific ratings. In addition, all CFI's are
required to complete Security Awareness Training.

TSA and the Airplane Owners and Pilots Associate (AOPA) have several
resources available that provide guidance on the implementation of this
regulation. The following resources are available to both flight
instructors and flight students.

<bunch of links>

If you have questions after accessing the above information, you may
contact Senior Aviation Security Inspector John Doe at <phone number> or
<email address>.

Sincerely,

Jack Doe
Federal Security Director (Acting)
Dallas Love Field (DAL)

---------------------------------------------------------------

Anyway, the links are all valid and do link to the rules that we all
know and love, but it's just an odd letter. Like it says, this has been
around for almost two years, so why was a letter being issued now, and
why from the local office? I guess I could always contact the TSA and
ask, but they're in the doghouse with me after stealing my medication
yesterday.

[Jim Macklin]

Googled for " "Jack Doe"+Federal Security Director+Dallas "
and got 11 hits, none that seem correct or related. Have
you called the Love Field office listed to see if it exists
or if there is a Jack Doe? [Sounds like John Doe's brother}


"Emily" > wrote in message
. ..
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > Emily, do you have a scanner? Scan and post the letter
as
| > text and ask your question again. It could somebody has
| > thought of a "practical joke" and got your address
somehow.
| > Be sure to edit out your personal name and address/phone
if
| > they are on the letter.
|
| Scanner doesn't work with the new computer, but I type
fast.
|
| "Dear Certified Flight Instructor:
|
| According to FAA records, you are listed as a Certificated
Flight
| Instructor (CFI) as described in 14 Code of Federal
Regulations (CFR)
| Part 61. This letter is to inform you of new requirements
which may be
| applicable to the flight instruction you provide and to
let you know who
| you can contact should you have any questions.
|
| On September 20, 2004, 49 CFR 1552 was issued by the
Transportation
| Security Administration. According to the new regulation,
CFI's are
| required to take certain action when providing flight
instruction to all
| flight students seeking specific ratings. In addition,
all CFI's are
| required to complete Security Awareness Training.
|
| TSA and the Airplane Owners and Pilots Associate (AOPA)
have several
| resources available that provide guidance on the
implementation of this
| regulation. The following resources are available to both
flight
| instructors and flight students.
|
| <bunch of links>
|
| If you have questions after accessing the above
information, you may
| contact Senior Aviation Security Inspector John Doe at
<phone number> or
| <email address>.
|
| Sincerely,
|
| Jack Doe
| Federal Security Director (Acting)
| Dallas Love Field (DAL)
|
| ---------------------------------------------------------------
|
| Anyway, the links are all valid and do link to the rules
that we all
| know and love, but it's just an odd letter. Like it says,
this has been
| around for almost two years, so why was a letter being
issued now, and
| why from the local office? I guess I could always contact
the TSA and
| ask, but they're in the doghouse with me after stealing my
medication
| yesterday.

[Emily[_1_]]

Jim Macklin wrote:
> Googled for " "Jack Doe"+Federal Security Director+Dallas "
> and got 11 hits, none that seem correct or related. Have
> you called the Love Field office listed to see if it exists
> or if there is a Jack Doe? [Sounds like John Doe's brother}

LOL....I masked the real names.

[Jim Macklin]

OK, You might Google the real names to see what you get. It
could be a Texas state office that is following up on a list
of Texas CFIs with a delay. .


"Emily" > wrote in message
. ..
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > Googled for " "Jack Doe"+Federal Security
Director+Dallas "
| > and got 11 hits, none that seem correct or related.
Have
| > you called the Love Field office listed to see if it
exists
| > or if there is a Jack Doe? [Sounds like John Doe's
brother}
|
| LOL....I masked the real names.

[Emily[_1_]]

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
> Emily wrote:
>> Jim Macklin wrote:
>>> Googled for " "Jack Doe"+Federal Security Director+Dallas "
>>> and got 11 hits, none that seem correct or related. Have
>>> you called the Love Field office listed to see if it exists
>>> or if there is a Jack Doe? [Sounds like John Doe's brother}
>> LOL....I masked the real names.
>
> Why mask the real name?
>
I wouldn't want MY real name over all usenet...

[BTIZ]

I believe it is a valid letter, I got one about a month ago.
I'll have to look for it but I do not think I kept it, TSA rules do not
apply to glider CFIs.

I believe what has changed in the last few months was how to complete the
recurrency (annual update) training. AOPA and other alphabet soup aviation
groups worked with them to change how the recurrency can be maintained for
independent CFIs.

B

"Emily" > wrote in message
. ..
> Got one this week (or last week, I've been out of town) that says that new
> rules for CFI's have been implemented, etc, etc, etc. The odd thing is,
> it looks like it was printed on a $50 printer and wasn't even in an
> official envelope like I'm used to seeing from the FAA. It really only
> had a bunch of links in the letter. Has anyone gotten this?

[zatatime]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:06:15 -0500, Emily >
wrote:

>Andrew Sarangan wrote:
>> Emily wrote:
>>> Jim Macklin wrote:
>>>> Googled for " "Jack Doe"+Federal Security Director+Dallas "
>>>> and got 11 hits, none that seem correct or related. Have
>>>> you called the Love Field office listed to see if it exists
>>>> or if there is a Jack Doe? [Sounds like John Doe's brother}
>>> LOL....I masked the real names.
>>
>> Why mask the real name?
>>
>I wouldn't want MY real name over all usenet...


It's alright Sarah, no one would do anything mischievous with it. <g>

z

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:06:15 -0500, Emily >
wrote in >:

>I wouldn't want MY real name over all usenet...

Why? Is it an accountability issue? Are you fearful of leaving a
written history? Or are you paranoid of your fellow man?

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:39:35 -0500, Emily >
wrote in >:

>In addition, all CFI's are
>required to complete Security Awareness Training.

Perhaps the reason you received the notice is, because there is no
record of your having completed the above required training?

Security Awareness Training

TSA defined “flight school” to include individual flight
instructors because the agency believes that individual flight
instructors are just as likely to experience suspicious
circumstances and activities of individuals applying for flight
training as large flight schools. Under the IFR, individual flight
instructors are required to conduct security awareness training
for any of their employees, including themselves. The IFR provides
the option of using a security awareness training program
developed by TSA, which will be available at no cost to flight
schools by contacting TSA (703-542-1222 or ) or
by visiting the TSA General Aviation website at
http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?theme=180

You can pose your question to AOPA:

Links:
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/041020tsa.html
http://www.befa.org/pub/tsa_cfr49_part1552_clarification_letter-20041019.pdf
www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/041020tsa_notice.pdf
http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=0788ff63dc1c6b53d50869b46c236066&rgn=div5&view=text&node=49:9.1.3.5.14&idno=49
http://www.befa.org/pub/49_CFR_Part_1552.html

[Al[_1_]]

We got a visit. Folks from the TSA visited our local flight school, and
demanded that the school get and keep on file a copy of ALL students birth
certificate or passport. Not foreign students mind you, all students. I was
told that I am exempt by virtue of my CFI.

Western Oregon school of Aviation
Roseburg, Oregon

Al G


"Emily" > wrote in message
. ..
> Got one this week (or last week, I've been out of town) that says that new
> rules for CFI's have been implemented, etc, etc, etc. The odd thing is,
> it looks like it was printed on a $50 printer and wasn't even in an
> official envelope like I'm used to seeing from the FAA. It really only
> had a bunch of links in the letter. Has anyone gotten this?

[[email protected]]

We got a visit from the TSA folks. They were very pleased that
our records were complete and up-to-date. Their comment was
that we were the first flight school that they reviewed that
fully complied... student records, CFI training/retraining.
Then they went away... quietly! It was a good day!

Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocations!"
--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer<at>frii.com http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot BM218 HAM N0FZD 240 Young Eagles!

[Jim Macklin]

Some agents just make up the rules as they go along. BATF
was very creative, they would answer questions on the
telephone about gun laws and make a note about who they
talked to, but not what they said. Then based on the fact
that they had lied to the citizen, they would go arrest that
citizen because if the citizen followed the instructions
given over the phone, they had broken the law. Eventually
Congress did hold hearings and the BATF was slapped on the
wrist with a limp noodle [their budget was cut $5M].

The war on terror includes all of us, and as such the
terrorists have succeeded in making us change our way of
life. The war will be won when we kill all of them. The
terrorists are willing and even eager to die for their
cause. Let's do them a favor and speed up their demise.



"Al" > wrote in message
...
| We got a visit. Folks from the TSA visited our local
flight school, and
| demanded that the school get and keep on file a copy of
ALL students birth
| certificate or passport. Not foreign students mind you,
all students. I was
| told that I am exempt by virtue of my CFI.
|
| Western Oregon school of Aviation
| Roseburg, Oregon
|
| Al G
|
|
| "Emily" > wrote in message
| . ..
| > Got one this week (or last week, I've been out of town)
that says that new
| > rules for CFI's have been implemented, etc, etc, etc.
The odd thing is,
| > it looks like it was printed on a $50 printer and wasn't
even in an
| > official envelope like I'm used to seeing from the FAA.
It really only
| > had a bunch of links in the letter. Has anyone gotten
this?
|
|