Smoke system using used propane torch bottle?

[Scott[_1_]]

I seem to recall a relatively simple smoke system that used a propane
torch bottle to hold the smoke oil and I believe it was pressurized with
air to eliminate the need for a pump. I realize it would only be good
for short bursts, but that is exactly the application I need. Any
reference to the article appreciated...

Scott

[Frank Stutzman]

Scott > wrote:
> I seem to recall a relatively simple smoke system that used a propane
> torch bottle to hold the smoke oil and I believe it was pressurized with
> air to eliminate the need for a pump. I realize it would only be good
> for short bursts, but that is exactly the application I need. Any
> reference to the article appreciated...

Don't know about a propane bottle, but there was somebody years ago on
the Pietenpol list who had a smoke system based on one of those hand
pumped insecticde garden sprayers. Seemed to work good for him.

Yah, I know a smoke system on a Pietenpol...

--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

[Andy Asberry]

On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:34:01 +0000, Scott >
wrote:

>I seem to recall a relatively simple smoke system that used a propane
>torch bottle to hold the smoke oil and I believe it was pressurized with
>air to eliminate the need for a pump. I realize it would only be good
>for short bursts, but that is exactly the application I need. Any
>reference to the article appreciated...
>
>Scott

At http://www.kcdawnpatrol.com/smoke.htm there is one made from a
windshield washer pump. I saw the article on the propane bottle setup.
I thought it was Dick Starks or Leonard Milholland
www.betterhalfvw.com . Sounded more like Starks though because the
article detailed strafing another field.

--Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--

[Scott[_1_]]

Well, I would have laughed at a smoke system on a Piet or my own Corben
several years ago, but after seeing a smoke system in operation on a
Baby Ace at the SAA fly in this year, I KNOW it's for me. Since my
Corben is so slow in the pattern (60-65 MPH), I have nearly been run
over by Cessnas and such at fly in breakfasts. No one seems to see me
and they keep hollering at me on the radio for my position. A short
burst of smoke would definitely draw attention to my whereabouts as I
approach the airport and at various points around the pattern!

Scott


Frank Stutzman wrote:

> Scott > wrote:
>
>>I seem to recall a relatively simple smoke system that used a propane
>>torch bottle to hold the smoke oil and I believe it was pressurized with
>>air to eliminate the need for a pump. I realize it would only be good
>>for short bursts, but that is exactly the application I need. Any
>>reference to the article appreciated...
>
>
> Don't know about a propane bottle, but there was somebody years ago on
> the Pietenpol list who had a smoke system based on one of those hand
> pumped insecticde garden sprayers. Seemed to work good for him.
>
> Yah, I know a smoke system on a Pietenpol...
>
> --
> Frank Stutzman
> Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
> Hood River, OR
>

[Scott[_1_]]

Thanks for the tip! Yes, I do believe it was Len Hilholland who had
it...Think I remember seeing it on his Legal Eagle at Oshkosh last year...

Scott



Andy Asberry wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:34:01 +0000, Scott >
> wrote:
>
>
>>I seem to recall a relatively simple smoke system that used a propane
>>torch bottle to hold the smoke oil and I believe it was pressurized with
>>air to eliminate the need for a pump. I realize it would only be good
>>for short bursts, but that is exactly the application I need. Any
>>reference to the article appreciated...
>>
>>Scott
>
>
> At http://www.kcdawnpatrol.com/smoke.htm there is one made from a
> windshield washer pump. I saw the article on the propane bottle setup.
> I thought it was Dick Starks or Leonard Milholland
> www.betterhalfvw.com . Sounded more like Starks though because the
> article detailed strafing another field.
>
> --Andy Asberry recommends NewsGuy--

[Jim Carriere]

Or one of these (skip down to the picture at the bottom) would draw some
attention too:

http://www.nieuports.com/index.asp?page=feature_builders

It says "Recommended for all children aged 30 years and older" :) Heheheh

Scott wrote:
> Well, I would have laughed at a smoke system on a Piet or my own Corben
> several years ago, but after seeing a smoke system in operation on a
> Baby Ace at the SAA fly in this year, I KNOW it's for me. Since my
> Corben is so slow in the pattern (60-65 MPH), I have nearly been run
> over by Cessnas and such at fly in breakfasts. No one seems to see me
> and they keep hollering at me on the radio for my position. A short
> burst of smoke would definitely draw attention to my whereabouts as I
> approach the airport and at various points around the pattern!
>
> Scott
>
>
> Frank Stutzman wrote:
>
>> Scott > wrote:
>>
>>> I seem to recall a relatively simple smoke system that used a propane
>>> torch bottle to hold the smoke oil and I believe it was pressurized
>>> with air to eliminate the need for a pump. I realize it would only
>>> be good for short bursts, but that is exactly the application I
>>> need. Any reference to the article appreciated...
>>
>>
>> Don't know about a propane bottle, but there was somebody years ago
>> on the Pietenpol list who had a smoke system based on one of those
>> hand pumped insecticde garden sprayers. Seemed to work good for him.
>>
>> Yah, I know a smoke system on a Pietenpol...
>>
>> -- Frank Stutzman
>> Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
>> Hood River, OR
>>

[Dan Horton]

If you have 12V power, an in-tank fuel pump from many GM and Ford cars
does a good job pumping 10W oil from a one gallon lawn mower gas tank.

The pumps can be obtained for free at a busy auto repair shop. The
in-tank units combine a pump and a fuel level sender. When the sender
goes bad (common) the shop replaces the entire unit (the sender is not
sold separate) and tosses the old one in a box "just in case we ever
need a pump". The box fills up pretty quick.

On the Canuck I ran a 1/4" line to a splitter block, then 1/8 stainless
lines to compression fittings brazed into the exhaust manifold header
pipes about 2" outboard of the cylinder head. Excellent smoke
quantity.

Dan

[Rich S.[_1_]]

At one time I thought of installing a smoke system on the Emeraude. Then I
attended an r.a.h. salmon bbq and oyster feed at Arlington. We were cooking
and sipping in front of a hangar while the air show was on.

I remember watching a T-6 go by on a low pass right in front of us, with his
smoke on. Every so often, the smoke would catch fire and a 30 foot length of
flame would ensue before the smoke came on again.

Hmmm . . . Wonder what effect that might have on my wooden frame - fabric
covered Emeraude?

I decided I didn't need to be quite *that* visible.

Rich "We live in fame, we go down in flames" S.

[Scott[_1_]]

I wonder if he was using true smoke oil and not something else that was
flammable...

Scott



Rich S. wrote:

> At one time I thought of installing a smoke system on the Emeraude. Then I
> attended an r.a.h. salmon bbq and oyster feed at Arlington. We were cooking
> and sipping in front of a hangar while the air show was on.
>
> I remember watching a T-6 go by on a low pass right in front of us, with his
> smoke on. Every so often, the smoke would catch fire and a 30 foot length of
> flame would ensue before the smoke came on again.
>
> Hmmm . . . Wonder what effect that might have on my wooden frame - fabric
> covered Emeraude?
>
> I decided I didn't need to be quite *that* visible.
>
> Rich "We live in fame, we go down in flames" S.
>
>

[Rich S.[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
...
>I wonder if he was using true smoke oil and not something else that was
>flammable...

Is true smoke oil flammable under those conditions?

Rich S.