Ack, it's alive!

[Harry K]

Quote:

Purchase a Skycar!

As a result of the recent successful hovering flights of the M400
Skycar, Moller International is accepting deposits to secure delivery
positions for our M400 Skycar until after the Skycar has flown from
hover to full aerodynamic flight and returned (transitioning flight). A
limited number of delivery positions are available.

http://www.moller.com/investment/

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Will he never cease trying to fleece the public? Has blurbs in his
"news" area as of June 06. Didn't read much of it as I had just eaten.
I got curious as there was an informational blurb in the kiddies
activity page in my Sunday paper. At least he admits it has only
"flown" tethered this time.

Harry K

[Rob Turk[_1_]]

"Harry K" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Quote:
>
> Purchase a Skycar!
>
> As a result of the recent successful hovering flights of the M400
> Skycar, Moller International is accepting deposits to secure delivery
> positions for our M400 Skycar until after the Skycar has flown from
> hover to full aerodynamic flight and returned (transitioning flight). A
> limited number of delivery positions are available.
>
> http://www.moller.com/investment/
>

I kinda like this one:
http://www.moller.com/test/

It says that there's "24 microprocessors and 25.000 lines of machine
language and software code" in the car. That puts it on par with... your
average dishwasher or so. 25.000 lines of assembly code is absolutely
nothing at all for such a project.

Rob

[Bret Ludwig]

Moller has no intention of ever flying. He is not a pilot, doesn't
have any working for him who would be remotely qualified to test fly
it, and isn't interested in looking for one. (Don't ask how I know.)

He is a fake, a phony and a fraud. He's Jim Bede times ten.

[[email protected]]

Well folks, to be fair, don't you think we should wait for the full ANN
flight test report?

Rob


Bret Ludwig wrote:
> Moller has no intention of ever flying. He is not a pilot, doesn't
> have any working for him who would be remotely qualified to test fly
> it, and isn't interested in looking for one. (Don't ask how I know.)
>
> He is a fake, a phony and a fraud. He's Jim Bede times ten.

[Harry K]

Richard Riley wrote:
> Well, yeah! The world's most experienced and respected Fly Writer
> will give us a completely fair, unbiased, technically thorough and
> brilliantly written review.
>
> On 15 Aug 2006 06:59:38 -0700, wrote:
>
> >Well folks, to be fair, don't you think we should wait for the full ANN
> >flight test report?
> >
> >Rob
> >
> >
> >Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >> Moller has no intention of ever flying. He is not a pilot, doesn't
> >> have any working for him who would be remotely qualified to test fly
> >> it, and isn't interested in looking for one. (Don't ask how I know.)
> >>
> >> He is a fake, a phony and a fraud. He's Jim Bede times ten.

Can't wait to read how it performs while being looped and rolled at
mach 3.

Anyone notice the nice disclaimers at the bottom of almost every page.
Paraphrased "I can claim anything I want and you can't sue me, nyaah,
nyaaah, nyaaah"

Harry K

[Montblack[_1_]]

("Richard Riley" wrote)
> Well, yeah! The world's most experienced and respected Fly Writer will
> give us a completely fair, unbiased, technically thorough and brilliantly
> written review.


Will a (non-flying) flying car eventually put Moller out of business? Nope.

Will the subsequent, and much anticipated ("What advertising contract?")
post-review litigation vs. ANN/Zoom put Moller out of business? ...or will
that be ANN/Zoom vs. Moller? Either way!

Stay tuned.


Montblack

[Bret Ludwig]

Montblack wrote:
> ("Richard Riley" wrote)
> > Well, yeah! The world's most experienced and respected Fly Writer will
> > give us a completely fair, unbiased, technically thorough and brilliantly
> > written review.
>
>
> Will a (non-flying) flying car eventually put Moller out of business? Nope.
>
> Will the subsequent, and much anticipated ("What advertising contract?")
> post-review litigation vs. ANN/Zoom put Moller out of business? ...or will
> that be ANN/Zoom vs. Moller? Either way!


A war between Moller and Zoom would provide necessary entertainment
for all.

[J.Kahn]

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> Montblack wrote:
>> ("Richard Riley" wrote)
>>> Well, yeah! The world's most experienced and respected Fly Writer will
>>> give us a completely fair, unbiased, technically thorough and brilliantly
>>> written review.
>>
>> Will a (non-flying) flying car eventually put Moller out of business? Nope.
>>
>> Will the subsequent, and much anticipated ("What advertising contract?")
>> post-review litigation vs. ANN/Zoom put Moller out of business? ...or will
>> that be ANN/Zoom vs. Moller? Either way!
>
>
> A war between Moller and Zoom would provide necessary entertainment
> for all.
>

If you scroll all the way down on the FAQ page there's a last question
after "4.28: How
is the Skycar powered on the ground?"...


4.29: 100 mil for that insane contraption???? Are you out of your
farkin' minds???

No we're not. Now go away.

[Bret Ludwig]

From Moller web site:

4.2. Why is it taking so long to complete the Skycar?
Revolutionary ideas are not born overnight. We have been in
development since the 1960's and have flown several prototypes and
concept vehicles. The progress of the M400 is on a very quick schedule
when you review the man-hours and dollars expended. Only $100 Million
has been spent in R & D at Moller International, compare this to the
$1.2 Billion required for the gearbox design on the Bell-Boeing V22
Osprey.



There is no proof Moller has spent any more money than creating the
mockups and advertising materials he has shown.

[J.Kahn]

Bret Ludwig wrote:
> From Moller web site:
>
> 4.2. Why is it taking so long to complete the Skycar?
> Revolutionary ideas are not born overnight. We have been in
> development since the 1960's and have flown several prototypes and
> concept vehicles. The progress of the M400 is on a very quick schedule
> when you review the man-hours and dollars expended. Only $100 Million
> has been spent in R & D at Moller International, compare this to the
> $1.2 Billion required for the gearbox design on the Bell-Boeing V22
> Osprey.
>
>
>
> There is no proof Moller has spent any more money than creating the
> mockups and advertising materials he has shown.
>


What's the deal with the Rotawhatzit wankel? Does the engine exist?

John

[wright1902glider]

My hat flavor and crow flavor MRE's remain uneaten.

Only 2 years of shelf life left. Get to it Paul. You're beginning to
look Langley-esque.

Harry "$100 million could save a lot of rainforest" Frey