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August 30th 06, 06:07 PM
http://www.newsone.ca/hinesbergjournal/ViewArticle.aspx?id=2703&source=2

The article doesn't bother to mention how high he claims to have gotten.

Andy[_1_]
August 30th 06, 06:15 PM
wrote:
> http://www.newsone.ca/hinesbergjournal/ViewArticle.aspx?id=2703&source=2
>
> The article doesn't bother to mention how high he claims to have gotten.

According to an article on AZCental.com:

The 62-year-old Chicago investment mogul said he and Norwegian co-pilot
Einar Enevoldson, 74, rode powerful rising air currents above the
remote Patagonia region on Tuesday, reaching a record 50,699 feet.

I was sent the article in an email and don't have the fiull URL.

Andy

flying_monkey
August 30th 06, 10:28 PM
He _claims_ to have gotten? Why the sour grapes? Why would you doubt
him? Considering that he certainly has one or two loggers aboard,
proving the truth or falsity of his claim is easy, so why would he lie
and expose himself to ridicule?

Yeah, I know, you begrudge him the money that makes it possible for him
to do this kind of thing (I'm a little envious, myself), but will I
find your name in any of these record books which list him?

Ed

wrote:
> http://www.newsone.ca/hinesbergjournal/ViewArticle.aspx?id=2703&source=2
>
> The article doesn't bother to mention how high he claims to have gotten.

Bob Kuykendall
August 30th 06, 10:44 PM
Earlier, flying_monkey wrote:
> He _claims_ to have gotten? Why the sour grapes? Why would you doubt
> him?...

If we're going to delve into such semantics, howzabouts we start with
Fox News:

> BUENOS AIRES, Argentina - U.S. tycoon and adventurer Steve
> Fossett, already famous for sailboating and solo ballooning records,
> claims to have soared to new heights in an engineless glider...
^^^^^^

See http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211290,00.html

Thanks, Bob K.

Al[_1_]
August 30th 06, 11:11 PM
"Bob Kuykendall" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Earlier, flying_monkey wrote:
>> He _claims_ to have gotten? Why the sour grapes? Why would you doubt
>> him?...
>
> If we're going to delve into such semantics, howzabouts we start with
> Fox News:
>
>> BUENOS AIRES, Argentina - U.S. tycoon and adventurer Steve
>> Fossett, already famous for sailboating and solo ballooning records,
>> claims to have soared to new heights in an engineless glider...
> ^^^^^^

It is part of the FAI's & NAA's requirements. You pay to "Sanction" a
record, i.e. "To reserve a 90 day window in which only you can set the
record". Then you "Submit your record claim" for verification. Only after
the record has been verified are you entitled to call yourself the "record
holder".

Al G
Holder of 2 World & 3 National Class records

August 31st 06, 12:12 AM
Sour grapes? You're reading alot into a pretty innocuous sentence.
Perhaps you're projecting. I just wanted to know how high he got.

flying_monkey wrote:
> He _claims_ to have gotten? Why the sour grapes? Why would you doubt
> him? Considering that he certainly has one or two loggers aboard,
> proving the truth or falsity of his claim is easy, so why would he lie
> and expose himself to ridicule?
>
> Yeah, I know, you begrudge him the money that makes it possible for him
> to do this kind of thing (I'm a little envious, myself), but will I
> find your name in any of these record books which list him?
>
> Ed
>
> wrote:
> > http://www.newsone.ca/hinesbergjournal/ViewArticle.aspx?id=2703&source=2
> >
> > The article doesn't bother to mention how high he claims to have gotten.

Stewart Kissel
August 31st 06, 01:03 AM
At 23:18 30 August 2006, wrote:
>Sour grapes? You're reading alot into a pretty innocuous
>sentence.
>Perhaps you're projecting. I just wanted to know how
>high he got.
>
50,699 feet according to Faux News

Bob Kuykendall
August 31st 06, 01:17 AM
Stewart Kissel wrote:

> 50,699 feet according to Faux News

With a 13000 foot release altitude, it looks like Bikle's 1961 Gain of
Height record of 42303 feet still stands.

Graeme Cant
August 31st 06, 07:01 AM
Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> Earlier, flying_monkey wrote:
>> He _claims_ to have gotten? Why the sour grapes? Why would you doubt
>> him?...

>> BUENOS AIRES, Argentina - U.S. tycoon and adventurer Steve
>> Fossett, already famous for sailboating and solo ballooning records,
>> claims to have soared to new heights in an engineless glider...
> ^^^^^^

Maybe he intends to CLAIM a world record - and said precisely that to
Fox and everybody else.

GC

>
> See http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,211290,00.html
>
> Thanks, Bob K.
>

Rory O'Conor[_1_]
August 31st 06, 10:14 AM
See http://www.perlanproject.com/

Subject: New altitude record?
The article doesn't bother to mention how high he claims to have gotten.

flying_monkey
August 31st 06, 03:11 PM
2 things:

First, fadoodle, my earlier post was unnecessarily harsh, and I
apologize. You didn't use the word claim to indicate doubt, I just
read it that way. Sorry.

Second, in the following post by Stewart Kissel, his characterization
of Fox News as Faux News is new to me (I know, people have probably
been using it for months/years, but I'm behind the times), but it's
right on! I'll remember that, and probably use it myself.

Ed

Stewart Kissel
September 1st 06, 02:57 AM
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=2006a3d7-ef6a-4f
65-a020-3f73c07d7a2b#d

A couple of images...

Stewart Kissel
September 1st 06, 02:57 AM
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=2006a3d7-ef6a-4f
65-a020-3f73c07d7a2b#d

A couple of images...

Google