Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!" {HRI note 20060907}

[Koos Nolst Trenite]

Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!"

7 September 2006
{HRI note 20060907}

'

Again,* if others told you this, then I would not have to, and I could
go sailing and do other things you know I enjoy, like art and music
and some Fine Particle Physics research for you.

I quote: **

As song birds at dawn on the farm awaken the early risers,
one person is already up;

in fact, he never slept - not once in the past 33 years.

'

You'd think, going without sleep for that long may have its
drawbacks, but not for the man in Vietnam's central Quang Nam
province,

who has never been ill after decades of staying awake.

'

His ability to stay awake has not only made him famous, but also
represents a phenomenon worthy of study.

'

'

Sixty-four-year-old Vietnamese citizen Thai Ngoc, known as Hai
Ngoc, said he stayed awake permanently after running a fever in
1973, *(1) and counted more than 11,700 consecutive days of
staying awake.

Proving his health as a farmer, as an elderly resident of the Que
Trung farming commune, in the Que Son district,

he still can carry two 50 kg (100 pound) bags of
fertilizer down 4 km (2.5 miles) of road, walking home,
every day.

'

'

Mr. Ngoc currently lives on his 5 ha (12 acres) farm at the foot
of a mountain, busy with farming and taking care of pigs and
chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que
Trung.

Ngoc often does extra farm work, or guards his farm at night to
prevent theft, and said it took him three months, using the
extra time of nights, to dig two large ponds to raise fish.

His neighbor, by the name of Vu, said Ngoc volunteered the help
of beating the funeral drum during the night, and to guard the
house of the relatives of the dead, so that these could
take a nap.

Neighbor Vu also said, that when the farming commune was planting
sugar cane, several people asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight
to go to work, since he was up anyway.


** (Quoted from, and, to remove the usual political and
traditional 'lowest common average "equals" "true" and
"normal"'-terminology and -viewpoint

which we know so well from the Medical tradition

- characterized by Medical arrogance, while
strewn with Medical evil its arrogance
covers so well - *(2)

now edited out by me, to enhance and validate

a benign, very well-meaning newspaper article, entitled

'Vietnam Man Stays Awake For Three Decades'

- Reported by Vu Phuong Thao - Translated by Thu Thuy
- Story from Thanh Nien News,
published 14 Feb 2006 12:51:09 (GMT+7)
- Copyright Thanh Nien News)

'

I will add more in due course, if nobody else has the courage to take
up this unimaginably vital and hugely humanitarian subject.

Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher and poet


Sooner or later,
I will inevitably come down
on anyone who tries to harm others:

I love people that intensely.

Koos Nolst Trenite
"Cause Trinity"
human rights philosopher
and poet


__________
References:

[First Law of Human Rights]
* [Intro to Head of State]
[Justice]

_________
Footnotes:

(1) [His body's reaction in order to reject certain harmful Energies]
'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies
- As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds'
{HRI 20030611}
(11 June 2003)
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bcba5f8d8a8ef2de?fwc=1

(2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
(13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc?fwc=1
(13 February 2006)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/6d0a6cea040b6719?fwc=1
'

____________
Verification:

http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld

Copyright 2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
and poet
This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it)
who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
to others who might be able to learn from it.
None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
or religious or scientific agenda, but only to educate, and to
encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
about any organizations or individuals.
Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
(address unreadable for Internet robots
- replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)

[[email protected]]

Ok...so, what's the point?



Koos Nolst Trenite wrote:
> Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!"
>
> 7 September 2006
> {HRI note 20060907}
>
> '
>
> Again,* if others told you this, then I would not have to, and I could
> go sailing and do other things you know I enjoy, like art and music
> and some Fine Particle Physics research for you.
>
> I quote: **
>
> As song birds at dawn on the farm awaken the early risers,
> one person is already up;
>
> in fact, he never slept - not once in the past 33 years.
>
> '
>
> You'd think, going without sleep for that long may have its
> drawbacks, but not for the man in Vietnam's central Quang Nam
> province,
>
> who has never been ill after decades of staying awake.
>
> '
>
> His ability to stay awake has not only made him famous, but also
> represents a phenomenon worthy of study.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Sixty-four-year-old Vietnamese citizen Thai Ngoc, known as Hai
> Ngoc, said he stayed awake permanently after running a fever in
> 1973, *(1) and counted more than 11,700 consecutive days of
> staying awake.
>
> Proving his health as a farmer, as an elderly resident of the Que
> Trung farming commune, in the Que Son district,
>
> he still can carry two 50 kg (100 pound) bags of
> fertilizer down 4 km (2.5 miles) of road, walking home,
> every day.
>
> '
>
> '
>
> Mr. Ngoc currently lives on his 5 ha (12 acres) farm at the foot
> of a mountain, busy with farming and taking care of pigs and
> chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que
> Trung.
>
> Ngoc often does extra farm work, or guards his farm at night to
> prevent theft, and said it took him three months, using the
> extra time of nights, to dig two large ponds to raise fish.
>
> His neighbor, by the name of Vu, said Ngoc volunteered the help
> of beating the funeral drum during the night, and to guard the
> house of the relatives of the dead, so that these could
> take a nap.
>
> Neighbor Vu also said, that when the farming commune was planting
> sugar cane, several people asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight
> to go to work, since he was up anyway.
>
>
> ** (Quoted from, and, to remove the usual political and
> traditional 'lowest common average "equals" "true" and
> "normal"'-terminology and -viewpoint
>
> which we know so well from the Medical tradition
>
> - characterized by Medical arrogance, while
> strewn with Medical evil its arrogance
> covers so well - *(2)
>
> now edited out by me, to enhance and validate
>
> a benign, very well-meaning newspaper article, entitled
>
> 'Vietnam Man Stays Awake For Three Decades'
>
> - Reported by Vu Phuong Thao - Translated by Thu Thuy
> - Story from Thanh Nien News,
> published 14 Feb 2006 12:51:09 (GMT+7)
> - Copyright Thanh Nien News)
>
> '
>
> I will add more in due course, if nobody else has the courage to take
> up this unimaginably vital and hugely humanitarian subject.
>
> Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
> human rights philosopher and poet
>
>
> Sooner or later,
> I will inevitably come down
> on anyone who tries to harm others:
>
> I love people that intensely.
>
> Koos Nolst Trenite
> "Cause Trinity"
> human rights philosopher
> and poet
>
>
> __________
> References:
>
> [First Law of Human Rights]
> * [Intro to Head of State]
> [Justice]
>
> _________
> Footnotes:
>
> (1) [His body's reaction in order to reject certain harmful Energies]
> 'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies
> - As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds'
> {HRI 20030611}
> (11 June 2003)
> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bcba5f8d8a8ef2de?fwc=1
>
> (2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
> Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
> CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
> (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc?fwc=1
> (13 February 2006)
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/6d0a6cea040b6719?fwc=1
> '
>
> ____________
> Verification:
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
>
> Copyright 2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
> and poet
> This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
> anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it)
> who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
> to others who might be able to learn from it.
> None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
> or religious or scientific agenda, but only to educate, and to
> encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
> about any organizations or individuals.
> Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
> PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
> (address unreadable for Internet robots
> - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)

[gringo]

wrote:
> Ok...so, what's the point?
>
>


Does everything have to have a point? Can't some things be posted
simply for the human interest?

>
> Koos Nolst Trenite wrote:
>
>> Being Awake And Staying Awake - versus - Being Told "You Need Sleep!"
>>
>> 7 September 2006
>> {HRI note 20060907}
>>
>> '
>>
>> Again,* if others told you this, then I would not have to, and I could
>> go sailing and do other things you know I enjoy, like art and music
>> and some Fine Particle Physics research for you.
>>
>> I quote: **
>>
>> As song birds at dawn on the farm awaken the early risers,
>> one person is already up;
>>
>> in fact, he never slept - not once in the past 33 years.
>>
>> '
>>
>> You'd think, going without sleep for that long may have its
>> drawbacks, but not for the man in Vietnam's central Quang Nam
>> province,
>>
>> who has never been ill after decades of staying awake.
>>
>> '
>>
>> His ability to stay awake has not only made him famous, but also
>> represents a phenomenon worthy of study.
>>
>> '
>>
>> '
>>
>> Sixty-four-year-old Vietnamese citizen Thai Ngoc, known as Hai
>> Ngoc, said he stayed awake permanently after running a fever in
>> 1973, *(1) and counted more than 11,700 consecutive days of
>> staying awake.
>>
>> Proving his health as a farmer, as an elderly resident of the Que
>> Trung farming commune, in the Que Son district,
>>
>> he still can carry two 50 kg (100 pound) bags of
>> fertilizer down 4 km (2.5 miles) of road, walking home,
>> every day.
>>
>> '
>>
>> '
>>
>> Mr. Ngoc currently lives on his 5 ha (12 acres) farm at the foot
>> of a mountain, busy with farming and taking care of pigs and
>> chickens all day. His six children live at their house in Que
>> Trung.
>>
>> Ngoc often does extra farm work, or guards his farm at night to
>> prevent theft, and said it took him three months, using the
>> extra time of nights, to dig two large ponds to raise fish.
>>
>> His neighbor, by the name of Vu, said Ngoc volunteered the help
>> of beating the funeral drum during the night, and to guard the
>> house of the relatives of the dead, so that these could
>> take a nap.
>>
>> Neighbor Vu also said, that when the farming commune was planting
>> sugar cane, several people asked Ngoc to awaken them at midnight
>> to go to work, since he was up anyway.
>>
>>
>> ** (Quoted from, and, to remove the usual political and
>> traditional 'lowest common average "equals" "true" and
>> "normal"'-terminology and -viewpoint
>>
>> which we know so well from the Medical tradition
>>
>> - characterized by Medical arrogance, while
>> strewn with Medical evil its arrogance
>> covers so well - *(2)
>>
>> now edited out by me, to enhance and validate
>>
>> a benign, very well-meaning newspaper article, entitled
>>
>> 'Vietnam Man Stays Awake For Three Decades'
>>
>> - Reported by Vu Phuong Thao - Translated by Thu Thuy
>> - Story from Thanh Nien News,
>> published 14 Feb 2006 12:51:09 (GMT+7)
>> - Copyright Thanh Nien News)
>>
>> '
>>
>> I will add more in due course, if nobody else has the courage to take
>> up this unimaginably vital and hugely humanitarian subject.
>>
>> Koos Nolst Trenite "Cause Trinity"
>> human rights philosopher and poet
>>
>>
>> Sooner or later,
>> I will inevitably come down
>> on anyone who tries to harm others:
>>
>> I love people that intensely.
>>
>> Koos Nolst Trenite
>> "Cause Trinity"
>> human rights philosopher
>> and poet
>>
>>
>> __________
>> References:
>>
>> [First Law of Human Rights]
>> * [Intro to Head of State]
>> [Justice]
>>
>> _________
>> Footnotes:
>>
>> (1) [His body's reaction in order to reject certain harmful Energies]
>> 'Defining The Major Harmful Or Bad Energies
>> - As They Are Created And Projected By Criminal Minds'
>> {HRI 20030611}
>> (11 June 2003)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.europe/msg/bcba5f8d8a8ef2de?fwc=1
>>
>> (2) 'A Bottomless Money Drain: The Licensed Medical Trade - Medical
>> Research, Charities, Foundations, Universities And Hospitals
>> CONTEMPT Of Your Suffering And Of Mankind'
>> (13 February 2006 - Version 1.0.1 on 20 Feb 2006)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.anthropology/msg/25fb3378ca8ce9dc?fwc=1
>> (13 February 2006)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med/msg/6d0a6cea040b6719?fwc=1
>> '
>>
>> ____________
>> Verification:
>>
>> http://www.angelfire.com/space/platoworld
>>
>> Copyright 2006 by Koos Nolst Trenite - human rights philosopher
>> and poet
>> This is 'learnware' - it may not be altered, and it is free for
>> anyone who learns from it, and (even if he can not learn from it)
>> who passes it on unaltered, and with this message included,
>> to others who might be able to learn from it.
>> None of my writings may be used, ever, to support any political
>> or religious or scientific agenda, but only to educate, and to
>> encourage people to judge un-dominated and for themselves,
>> about any organizations or individuals.
>> Send free-of-Envy and free-of-Hate, Beautiful e-mails to:
>> PlatoWorld at Lycos.com
>> (address unreadable for Internet robots
>> - replace ' at ' with the '@' symbol)
>>
>
>


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-- The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983



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------George W. Bush to the Houston Chronicle, April 9th, 1999

[Matt Whiting]

gringo wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Ok...so, what's the point?
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Does everything have to have a point? Can't some things be posted
> simply for the human interest?

Only if they are interesting ... and this isn't.

Matt

[TruckingNoob]

"gringo" > wrote in message
.. .
> wrote:
>> Ok...so, what's the point?
>>
>>
>
>
> Does everything have to have a point? Can't some things be posted simply
> for the human interest?
>

Sure, but can you learn to SNIP ****? Maybe keep only what is RELEVANT.??
I really don't understand people's lack of basic deletion so that you don't
have to look throguh tons of CRAP just to see someone one line BS.

Learn to use DELETE!

[[email protected]]

> Learn to use DELETE!

ok

[Chris W]

>> Learn to use DELETE!
>
> ok

Very good :) Now everyone else learn by example.

--
Chris W
KE5GIX

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Get the gifts you want &
give the gifts they want
One stop wish list for any gift,
from anywhere, for any occasion!
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[Peter R.]

TruckingNoob > wrote:

> Sure, but can you learn to SNIP ****? Maybe keep only what is RELEVANT.??
> I really don't understand people's lack of basic deletion so that you don't
> have to look throguh tons of CRAP just to see someone one line BS.

Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example,
with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to
truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the
Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.

--
Peter

[[email protected]]

Peter R. wrote:
> Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For example,
> with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to
> truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with the
> Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.
>
> --
> Peter

But most are nothing but a PITA

[TruckingNoob]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
>
> Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For
> example,
> with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to
> truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with
> the
> Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.
>

In that case I must say you are very short sighted. And no it's not a
flame. But I know people in thier 80's that could show people about
computers and the internet. And not just in thier 80's. Never for one minute
assume that there isn't a boundless amount of people of ALL background types
out here, in and on usenet, as well as the internet. That included less
desirables as well.

[Popeye]

"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> TruckingNoob > wrote:
>
>> Sure, but can you learn to SNIP ****? Maybe keep only what is
>> RELEVANT.??
>> I really don't understand people's lack of basic deletion so that you
>> don't
>> have to look throguh tons of CRAP just to see someone one line BS.
>
> Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For
> example,
> with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to
> truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with
> the
> Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.

FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48, 28
days a month or more.

I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba), and
I have broadband PCS in the truck.

As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have a
notebook in the truck.

They are, at least, far from uncommon.

We use them for work as well as recreation.

Mapping routes and destinations, book keeping, and locating facilities
like truck scales, maintenance facilities, and fuel stops, all on the
internet.

For recreation I dock my iPod, and download books on tape, and play then
via the truck's sound system.

DVDs of course.

Mounted on a Jottodesk made specifically for Freightliner.

Also many truck stops offer Wife, as well as some state rest areas.

> --
> Peter



--

Popeye
You can get much further with a kind word and a gun
than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone
www.finalprotectivefire.com

[Telamon]

In article >,
"Popeye" > wrote:

< Snip >

Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this
is off topic? Thanks.

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[Popeye]

"Telamon" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Popeye" > wrote:
>
> < Snip >
>
> Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this
> is off topic? Thanks.
>
> --
> Telamon
> Ventura, California

Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could just
ignore the thread.
You're welcome.

Popeye
Gatlinburg, Tennessee

[Original Gashauler]

"Popeye" > wrote in message
...
>
> For recreation I dock my iPod, and download books on tape, and play then
> via the truck's sound system.
>

What I liked when I was out was the old radio shows.

[Dick Chisel]

Popeye wrote:
> "Telamon" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "Popeye" > wrote:
>>
>> < Snip >
>>
>> Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this
>> is off topic? Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Telamon
>> Ventura, California
>
> Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could just
> ignore the thread.
> You're welcome.
>
> Popeye
> Gatlinburg, Tennessee



[Telamon is] "a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna" works for you.

"sanctimonious hypocrite" works for me...

[Popeye]

"Dick Chisel" > wrote in message
. com...
> Popeye wrote:
>> "Telamon" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> In article >,
>>> "Popeye" > wrote:
>>>
>>> < Snip >
>>>
>>> Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this
>>> is off topic? Thanks.
>>
>> Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could
>> just ignore the thread.
>> You're welcome.

> [Telamon is] "a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna" works for you.
>
> "sanctimonious hypocrite" works for me...

<cough>

[[email protected]]

> Learn to use DELETE!


ok

[Mxsmanic]

I was hoping that this might be a thread about staying awake on long
flights, but apparently not.

How _does_ one stay awake on a long flight as the sole pilot aboard?
I know that commercial pilots doze off frequently enough on long
flights, although they are reluctant to officially admit it. But then
there are usually at least two qualified pilots and others who can
wake them up. What do you do when you're the only pilot on board and
you have to fly a really long distance?

In the old days, staying awake was more a matter of life and death, as
you had to manually fly the plane at all times. Today, with
autopilot, you could drift off and survive, if you were lucky. So how
does one avoid it? Or is it just not a good idea to fly long
distances on one's own in an aircraft?

This all applies to other forms of transportation, too, of course.
Truckers and car drivers cannot afford to fall asleep at all. Boats
might be more forgiving, at least in open water with good navigational
aids and plenty of fuel (or wind).

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

[Telamon]

In article >,
"Popeye" > wrote:

> "Telamon" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Popeye" > wrote:
> >
> > < Snip >
> >
> > Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this
> > is off topic? Thanks.
> >
> > --
> > Telamon
> > Ventura, California
>
> Or instead of being a

< Snip >

Sorry that my simple request was to much for you to handle.

< Plonk >

--
Telamon
Ventura, California

[Popeye]

"Telamon" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Popeye" > wrote:

>> > < Snip >
>> >
>> > Could we drop rec.radio.shortwave off the news group header where this
>> > is off topic? Thanks.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Telamon
>> > Ventura, California
>>
>> Or instead of being a whining, ****head Usenet prima-donna, you could
>> just ignore the thread.
You're welcome.
>
> < Snip >
>
> Sorry that my simple request was to much for you to handle.
>
> < Plonk >
>

Oh!

No!

I've been -Plonked-!

What a dick.

Thanks for -verifying- that Usenet prima-donna crack empirically.

--

Popeye
You can get much further with a kind word and a gun
than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone
www.finalprotectivefire.com

[Bill Funk]

On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:23:00 +0200, Mxsmanic >
wrote:

>In the old days, staying awake was more a matter of life and death, as
>you had to manually fly the plane at all times. Today, with
>autopilot, you could drift off and survive, if you were lucky. So how
>does one avoid it? Or is it just not a good idea to fly long
>distances on one's own in an aircraft?

You could break the flight up into shorter hops, landing to walk
around or take a short nap.
Is it legal to listen to music? (I'm not a pilot, so I don't know.)
--
Bill Funk
replace "g" with "a"

[Huss Mohrens]

In article >,
"Popeye" > wrote:

> > Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For
> > example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup devoted to
> > truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with
> > the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.
>
> FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48, 28
> days a month or more.
>
> I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba), and
> I have broadband PCS in the truck.
>
> As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have a
> notebook in the truck.

Can they actually use them? Or is it, like, (waving a notebook out the
window): "hey gal, want a ride?"...

[Popeye]

"Huss Mohrens" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Popeye" > wrote:
>
>> > Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For
>> > example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup
>> > devoted to
>> > truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with
>> > the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.
>>
>> FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48,
>> 28
>> days a month or more.
>>
>> I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba),
>> and
>> I have broadband PCS in the truck.
>>
>> As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have
>> a
>> notebook in the truck.
>
> Can they actually use them? Or is it, like, (waving a notebook out the
> window): "hey gal, want a ride?"...

Uh...,I dunno.

Is -this- the best you can do with yours?


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than you can with a kind word alone. -Capone
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[Huss Mohrens]

In article >,
"Popeye" > wrote:

> "Huss Mohrens" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > "Popeye" > wrote:
> >
> >> > Occasionally there are cross posts that are very educational. For
> >> > example, with this thread I didn't realize there was a newsgroup
> >> > devoted to
> >> > truckers. When I picture a trucker I picture someone not familiar with
> >> > the Internet or specifically, Usenet. Now I know better.
> >>
> >> FYI, I'm an over the road driver, somewhere in -any- of the Lower 48,
> >> 28
> >> days a month or more.
> >>
> >> I have about 20,000 posts /10 yrs on Usenet (primarily in Rec.scuba),
> >> and
> >> I have broadband PCS in the truck.
> >>
> >> As a wildly unsupportable guess, I'd say about 40% of OTR drivers have
> >> a
> >> notebook in the truck.
> >
> > Can they actually use them? Or is it, like, (waving a notebook out the
> > window): "hey gal, want a ride?"...
>
> Uh...,I dunno.
>
> Is -this- the best you can do with yours?

I don't, but I guess to a trucker it would make some practical sense? At
least it could keep you guys awake.

[Mxsmanic]

Bill Funk writes:

> You could break the flight up into shorter hops, landing to walk
> around or take a short nap.

The overhead, time, and expense of landing and taking off again would
tend to discourage dividing the trip into hops, I should think.

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[realitytrucker]

Original Gashauler wrote:
> "Popeye" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > For recreation I dock my iPod, and download books on tape, and play then
> > via the truck's sound system.
> >
>
> What I liked when I was out was the old radio shows.

I've been listening to those lately on XM. Especially the old comedy
shows like Jack Benny, Burns and Allen and even Red Skelton. Skelton's
hilarious. If he forgets lines he just ad libs. I think he was the
Robin Williams of my parents generation.

I also like the old westerns line the Lone Ranger and even Hopalong
Cassidy. It's interesting listening to the Gunsmoke radio shows. I
grew up watching James Arness play Matt Dillon on the TV series but on
the radio shows it was Robert Conrad playing that role.

[Bill Funk]

On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 20:12:03 +0200, Mxsmanic >
wrote:

>Bill Funk writes:
>
>> You could break the flight up into shorter hops, landing to walk
>> around or take a short nap.
>
>The overhead, time, and expense of landing and taking off again would
>tend to discourage dividing the trip into hops, I should think.

It would beat falling asleep, wouldn't it?
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[Mxsmanic]

Bill Funk writes:

> It would beat falling asleep, wouldn't it?

True.

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