NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight in a 172

[Jay Honeck]

This group's own NW_Pilot has asked if I would be interested in helping
him document his incredible ferry-flight from Bangor, Maine, to Riyadh,
Saudi Arabia. Talk about the trip of a lifetime!

See it here:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm

And check back often. He'll be sending me regular updates.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Is he going to Beirut or Saudi? The map shows Saudi as the alternate. Has
Israel reopened the airspace into Lebanon?

If going to Saudi that flight over the desert might worry me more than the
over water stuff.

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> This group's own NW_Pilot has asked if I would be interested in helping
> him document his incredible ferry-flight from Bangor, Maine, to Riyadh,
> Saudi Arabia. Talk about the trip of a lifetime!
>
> See it here:
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm
>
> And check back often. He'll be sending me regular updates.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Jay Honeck]

> Is he going to Beirut or Saudi? The map shows Saudi as the alternate. Has
> Israel reopened the airspace into Lebanon?

I don't know. We'll all have to stay tuned for his periodic updates...

It sure is an awesome flight. I can't imagine it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[houstondan]

jay, really glad you guys hooked up (so to speak). tell nw he needs to
put more meat in his pireps than "took off...arrived".

one of the guys has posted a link over at the cessna pilots assn. and
there has to be a lot of interest there too.

good job and keep 'em coming....details. we want details!!

dan
Jay Honeck wrote:
> This group's own NW_Pilot has asked if I would be interested in helping
> him document his incredible ferry-flight from Bangor, Maine, to Riyadh,
> Saudi Arabia. Talk about the trip of a lifetime!
>
> See it here:
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm
>
> And check back often. He'll be sending me regular updates.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[Larry Dighera]

On 15 Sep 2006 12:27:08 -0700, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in . com>:

>This group's own NW_Pilot has asked if I would be interested in helping
>him document his incredible ferry-flight from Bangor, Maine, to Riyadh,
>Saudi Arabia.

So Mr. Rhine is delivering this Cessna for the CASABLANCA AMERICAN
SCHOOL FOUNDATION?

[Jay Honeck]

> jay, really glad you guys hooked up (so to speak). tell nw he needs to
> put more meat in his pireps than "took off...arrived".

Agree 100%. Trouble is, I think he's busy flying the danged plane...

I'm hopeful that he gets some time to elaborate...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Margy Natalie]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>jay, really glad you guys hooked up (so to speak). tell nw he needs to
>>put more meat in his pireps than "took off...arrived".
>
>
> Agree 100%. Trouble is, I think he's busy flying the danged plane...
>
> I'm hopeful that he gets some time to elaborate...
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
You guys need to talk! He can tell you what he's doing and YOU do the
writing!

Margy

[[email protected]]

Margy Natalie wrote:
> >
> You guys need to talk! He can tell you what he's doing and YOU do the
> writing!
>
> Margy

Exactly! Combine Jay's flare and talent for writing with NWP's
adventure - what a read that would be!

[Bob Gardner]

I'm impressed. It wasn't too long ago that Steve was asking newbie
questions.

Bob Gardner

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> This group's own NW_Pilot has asked if I would be interested in helping
> him document his incredible ferry-flight from Bangor, Maine, to Riyadh,
> Saudi Arabia. Talk about the trip of a lifetime!
>
> See it here:
>
> http://www.alexisparkinn.com/nwpilot's_tranatlantic_flight.htm
>
> And check back often. He'll be sending me regular updates.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Jay Honeck]

> > You guys need to talk! He can tell you what he's doing and YOU do the
> > writing!
>
> Exactly! Combine Jay's flare and talent for writing with NWP's
> adventure - what a read that would be!

Augh! Don't even suggest it out loud...I'm so far behind, and there's
always so much to do... I don't have time to start transcribing, too...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[houstondan]

i was just thinking the same thing. he's come a long way.

just proves what you can do if you put your mind to it, work hard and
don't listen to all those old farts that tell you what you can't do and
about smoking holes of aluminum test pilots. (or something like that!)

dan



Bob Gardner wrote:
> I'm impressed. It wasn't too long ago that Steve was asking newbie
> questions.
>
> Bob Gardner
>

[Margy Natalie]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>>You guys need to talk! He can tell you what he's doing and YOU do the
>>>writing!
>>
>>Exactly! Combine Jay's flare and talent for writing with NWP's
>>adventure - what a read that would be!
>
>
> Augh! Don't even suggest it out loud...I'm so far behind, and there's
> always so much to do... I don't have time to start transcribing, too...
>
> :-(
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
NOT TRANSCRIBING!! You are a writer, so you write it! You should put
some of these stories together and send them out to the aviation rags.

Margy

[Jay Honeck]

> NOT TRANSCRIBING!! You are a writer, so you write it! You should put
> some of these stories together and send them out to the aviation rags.

I know, I know -- I've got a great one rattling around in my head about
"get-there-itis" that NEEDS to be put on paper...but when?

Ah, crap. Whenever I hear someone say they're "bored", I just stare at
them in disbelief. How in the HELL can anyone on this planet ever by
"bored"? There is SO much to do, and so little time!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Bob Gardner" > wrote in message
...
> I'm impressed. It wasn't too long ago that Steve was asking newbie
> questions.

True. I still worry about his lack of judgment, at times.

If the owners knew of some of his earlier actions, I wonder if they would be
so quick to give him the keys?
--
Jim in NC

[Jose[_1_]]

> If the owners knew of some of his earlier actions, I wonder if they would be
> so quick to give him the keys?

Isn't that true of most of us?

Jose
--
There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Jose" > wrote in message
. ..
> > If the owners knew of some of his earlier actions, I wonder if they
would be
> > so quick to give him the keys?
>
> Isn't that true of most of us?

When it comes to actions behind the controls of an airplane, I sure hope
not. You are supposed to have grown up, and take responsibilities
seriously, at that point.

As recently as under a year ago, some postings make me think that it has not
happened, yet, for this individual.

Don't give him a free pass, Jose. I don't think he has earned it.
--
Jim in NC

[houstondan]

at the moment, i wouldn't give my keys to me!

dan...i keep hiding 'em but...




Jose wrote:
> > If the owners knew of some of his earlier actions, I wonder if they would be
> > so quick to give him the keys?
>
> Isn't that true of most of us?
>
> Jose
> --
> There are more ways to skin a cat than there are cats.
> for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]]

Morgans wrote:
>>> If the owners knew of some of his earlier actions, I wonder if they would be
>>> so quick to give him the keys?
>>
>> Isn't that true of most of us?
>
> When it comes to actions behind the controls of an airplane, I sure hope
> not. You are supposed to have grown up, and take responsibilities
> seriously, at that point.
>
> As recently as under a year ago, some postings make me think that it has not
> happened, yet, for this individual.
>
> Don't give him a free pass, Jose. I don't think he has earned it.



People *can* change. When I was 25, I used to enjoy buzzing. Making somebody
jump out a boat into the water was the height of entertainment to me. Now, I
can't imagine doing something stupid like that. I like the maximum amount of
air between me and the ground unless I'm landing. All of us are capable of
learning.

I was once asked if it was possible to teach judgement. "Absolutely", I
answered. I don't have to kill myself to learn not to do certain things. The
fact that others tried something and had a bad outcome makes an impression on
me. Am I unique? I don't think so.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com> wrote

> People *can* change.

I know they can. I hope he lives long enough to grow out of it. I don't
remember what it was that he posted a few months back, but whatever it was,
I was not the only one that expressed concern over his actions.

Like I said, I hope he does grow up, and learns better judgment. I don't
think it has happened yet, though, or if it has, it has happened "very"
recently.
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> Like I said, I hope he does grow up, and learns better judgment. I don't
> think it has happened yet, though, or if it has, it has happened "very"
> recently.

C'mon, Jim. If he had "better judgement" he wouldn't be flying a
single-engine plane across the North Atlantic, now would he...?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Andrew Sarangan[_1_]]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> > Like I said, I hope he does grow up, and learns better judgment. I don't
> > think it has happened yet, though, or if it has, it has happened "very"
> > recently.
>
> C'mon, Jim. If he had "better judgement" he wouldn't be flying a
> single-engine plane across the North Atlantic, now would he...?
>
> ;-)
> --

Speaking of judgement, is there any accident data for SEL airplanes
crossing the Atlantic? Since such accidents will involve foreign
countries or international waters, I am not sure if FAA records is the
place to go looking for it. What are the chances of rescue if someone
successfully lands on an iceberg, or ditches in the ocean?

[C. Massey]

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>> > Like I said, I hope he does grow up, and learns better judgment. I
>> > don't
>> > think it has happened yet, though, or if it has, it has happened "very"
>> > recently.
>>
>> C'mon, Jim. If he had "better judgement" he wouldn't be flying a
>> single-engine plane across the North Atlantic, now would he...?
>>
>> ;-)
>> --
>
> Speaking of judgement, is there any accident data for SEL airplanes
> crossing the Atlantic? Since such accidents will involve foreign
> countries or international waters, I am not sure if FAA records is the
> place to go looking for it. What are the chances of rescue if someone
> successfully lands on an iceberg, or ditches in the ocean?
>

I'm sure that he has a cellphone with him... :)




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[Morgans[_2_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote
>
> C'mon, Jim. If he had "better judgement" he wouldn't be flying a
> single-engine plane across the North Atlantic, now would he...?

<chuckle>

You _do_ have a point, there! <;-))
--
Jim in NC

[Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]]

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
> Speaking of judgement, is there any accident data for SEL airplanes
> crossing the Atlantic? Since such accidents will involve foreign
> countries or international waters, I am not sure if FAA records is the
> place to go looking for it. What are the chances of rescue if someone
> successfully lands on an iceberg, or ditches in the ocean?


Not too good. My father used to be stationed with the 57th Air Rescue Squadron
when we lived out in the Azores. He's told me more than one story about
somebody ferrying an airplane across the Atlantic only to disappear. The
squadron would go look but there'd be damned few happy endings.

He did tell me a story about a Bonanza pilot who called a Mayday on the radio...
the fellow was running out of fuel and wasn't sure exactly where he was (this
was back around 1962). Radio contact was established and they asked him if he'd
seen any shipping or anything else recently. As it turned out he'd just passed
a ship maybe 30 minutes before. They told him to turn around and see if he
could find it again. He did, and was able to sucessfully ditch alongside it.
The ship picked him up.

Dad said the next day his C-54 flew over the site and the Bonanza was still
semi-afloat. I guess those tanks were fuller of air than anything else.
Anyway, that was one lucky SOB.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com