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Jim[_5_]
September 18th 06, 03:37 AM
Anybody have a clue what effect the SSA tax/financial crisis may have on the
February Memphis convention.
September 18th 06, 03:44 AM
Jim wrote:
> Anybody have a clue what effect the SSA tax/financial crisis may have on the
> February Memphis convention.
Probably be some real interesting bar fights in the evenings.
MM
Frank Whiteley
September 18th 06, 04:07 AM
Jim wrote:
> Anybody have a clue what effect the SSA tax/financial crisis may have on the
> February Memphis convention.
More interest in the General Membership Meeting?
September 18th 06, 04:47 AM
Frank Whiteley wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> > Anybody have a clue what effect the SSA tax/financial crisis may have on the
> > February Memphis convention.
>
> More interest in the General Membership Meeting?
More interesting than the RAS fights?
Frank Whiteley
September 18th 06, 02:44 PM
wrote:
> Frank Whiteley wrote:
> > Jim wrote:
> > > Anybody have a clue what effect the SSA tax/financial crisis may have on the
> > > February Memphis convention.
> >
> > More interest in the General Membership Meeting?
>
> More interesting than the RAS fights?
We'll see. I've attended a few GM meetings and missed one or two at
the conventions I've attended. Some were poorly attended, others were
well represented by both delegates and directors. More telling may be
the presence or absence of members/directors you would expect to see
there. Time alloted is often too short to entertain too much
discussion as it's generally followed by a popular reception or
activity. However, it is an opportunity to ask hard questions,
register an appreciation or complaint, and seek or suggest action.
Frank
Doug
September 18th 06, 06:37 PM
Couldn't have picked a better site than Memphis. You can cry in your beer
on Beale St. while listening to the blues and thinking about the SSA's woes.
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>
> Jim wrote:
>> Anybody have a clue what effect the SSA tax/financial crisis may have on
>> the
>> February Memphis convention.
>
> Probably be some real interesting bar fights in the evenings.
>
> MM
>
JSB
September 19th 06, 09:18 PM
What is the SSA's role in in setting up an annual convention, other than
approving the host and location?
Does it in anyway fund any part of it in a meanful way. If so...kiss that
goodbye.
> February Memphis convention.
>
Vic7
September 20th 06, 04:58 AM
What is the SSA's role in in setting up an annual convention, other than
approving the host and location?
Does it in anyway fund any part of it in a meanful way. If so...kiss that
goodbye.
February Memphis convention.
Speaking as member of the host club but **not** as any official spokesperson, I can relate the following. I reiterate, these are my personal opinions and do not represent the Society or the host club:
At our last monthly club Board meeting I specifically asked our President if our club was in any way directly or contingently liable for the costs of the convention. The answer from both our President and Treasurer was, without qualification, no. So, to your question, "Does it in anyway fund any part of it in a meanful [sic] way[?]", the answer is: yes, entirely.
The follow up to that answer at our Board meeting was that we had heard nothing at all from the SSA that the plans for the convention had changed or were contemplated to change. The convention is a money making venture for the Society, not a cost. I see no reason that cancelling the convention would benefit the Society, and many reasons - political as well as financial - that cancelling it would hurt all of us.
I encourage all of you to join us in Memphis next year for the usual convention festivities as well as to ask for and to hear first-hand explanations of the changes made and to be made in response to the failure of internal controls (pardon the accounting jargon, but I am a non-profit CFO) of our national organization. I know that I have some pointed questions for our volunteer Board members. I encourage you to bring yours. Not only is it in your own best interests to have your say and to hear answers first hand, but your attendance will directly benefit the Society.
We're still planning to have a big time here at the convention and hope that many of you will drive out from under the Memphis class B airspace to visit our beautiful, new private gliderport in eastern Arkansas (4AR5) and fly with us.
V7
http://www.memphis-soaring.org/
Mike Schumann
September 21st 06, 04:32 AM
Bummer that you can't offer us any winch launching demos. That would have
been a big hit.
Mike Schumann
"Vic7" > wrote in message
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>
> JSB Wrote:
>> What is the SSA's role in in setting up an annual convention, other than
>>
>> approving the host and location?
>>
>> Does it in anyway fund any part of it in a meanful way. If so...kiss
>> that
>> goodbye.
>> -
>> February Memphis convention.
>> -
>
> Speaking as member of the host club but **not** as any official
> spokesperson, I can relate the following. I reiterate, these are my
> personal opinions and do not represent the Society or the host club:
>
> At our last monthly club Board meeting I specifically asked our
> President if our club was in any way directly or contingently liable
> for the costs of the convention. The answer from both our President
> and Treasurer was, without qualification, no. So, to your question,
> "Does it in anyway fund any part of it in a meanful [sic] way[?]", the
> answer is: yes, entirely.
>
> The follow up to that answer at our Board meeting was that we had heard
> nothing at all from the SSA that the plans for the convention had
> changed or were contemplated to change. The convention is a money
> making venture for the Society, not a cost. I see no reason that
> cancelling the convention would benefit the Society, and many reasons -
> political as well as financial - that cancelling it would hurt all of
> us.
>
> I encourage all of you to join us in Memphis next year for the usual
> convention festivities as well as to ask for and to hear first-hand
> explanations of the changes made and to be made in response to the
> failure of internal controls (pardon the accounting jargon, but I am a
> non-profit CFO) of our national organization. I know that I have some
> pointed questions for our volunteer Board members. I encourage you to
> bring yours. Not only is it in your own best interests to have your
> say and to hear answers first hand, but your attendance will directly
> benefit the Society.
>
> We're still planning to have a big time here at the convention and hope
> that many of you will drive out from under the Memphis class B airspace
> to visit our beautiful, new private gliderport in eastern Arkansas
> (4AR5) and fly with us.
>
> V7
> http://www.memphis-soaring.org/
>
>
>
>
> --
> Vic7
Vic7
September 22nd 06, 07:08 PM
Bummer that you can't offer us any winch launching demos. That would have
been a big hit.
Mike Schumann
Mike, you don't know how sorry I am that we can't offer winch launches. I only managed a couple of dozen myself before we sold the winch to the folks in Philly. I was great fun while it lasted, though.
V7
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