Weight of a Continental C-85

[DonMorrisey]

Hi folks. I can't seem to nail down the weight of this engine and I'm
suspect of published weights. For example Lycoming publishes the
weight of an 0-235 as 218 pounds and when I had one weighed it was 241
w/no alternator. Can anyone help me on a C-85? If you have a weight
pls tell me what is included in that. Or give me a link if you have a
reliable published report.

Thanks. Don....

[Lou]

I came across an old posting from 1999 with this. Hope it helps.

Rotax 503 50 85
Great Plains VW 1600CC 55 160
Hirth F23-EP2 60 70
Jabira 60 119
PZL 2A-120 60 129
Rotax 582 63 95 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc.
Continental A-65 65 173
Limbach L 1800 66 154
Limbach L 1700 66 161
Rotax 618 74 136 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc.
Great Plains VW 2180CC 75 165
Franklin 225 75 230
Limbach L 2000 80 155
Rotax 912 80 165 Includes 20 lbs radiator, et
Continental C-85 85 207
Limbach L 2400 94 181
Continental C-90 95 207
Great Plains VW 2600CC 96 190
Stratus Subaru EA-81 100 205
Continental O-200 100 220
CAM-100 100 225 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc
Formula Power C100 104 210
Rotax 914 115 155
Lycoming O-235 115 215
PZL 4A-235 116 226
Hirth F30-FP24 120 101
Continental IO-240 125 250
Continental O-300 145 277
Lycoming O-320-A 150 243
Lycoming O-320-D 160 253
Franklin 335 165 320
Formula Power F170 174 270
Lycoming O-360-A 180 265
Lycoming IO-360-A 200 293
NW Aero Ford V6 200 415
PZL 6A-350 205 330
Continental IO-360 210 350
NW Aero Chevy V6 230 420
Lycoming O-540-B 235 366
Lycoming O-540-E 260 368
Formula Power F260 274 390
Lycoming IO-540-K 300 443
Continental IO-520 300 459
Lycoming IO-720 400 568

[DonMorrisey]

Hi Lou

Yes I also saw that on the web, my problem is i don't know where the
figures came from and the information doesn't indicate if the weight
includes oil and all the accessories. Thanks. Don...

[Peter Dohm]

"DonMorrisey" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi folks. I can't seem to nail down the weight of this engine and I'm
> suspect of published weights. For example Lycoming publishes the
> weight of an 0-235 as 218 pounds and when I had one weighed it was 241
> w/no alternator. Can anyone help me on a C-85? If you have a weight
> pls tell me what is included in that. Or give me a link if you have a
> reliable published report.
>
> Thanks. Don....
>
From: "Peter Dohm" >
Subject: Re: Weight of a Continental C-85
Date: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:00 PM

"DonMorrisey" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Hi folks. I can't seem to nail down the weight of this engine and I'm
> suspect of published weights. For example Lycoming publishes the
> weight of an 0-235 as 218 pounds and when I had one weighed it was 241
> w/no alternator. Can anyone help me on a C-85? If you have a weight
> pls tell me what is included in that. Or give me a link if you have a
> reliable published report.
>
> Thanks. Don....
>
Your weighing of the O-235 came much closer to my recollection than the
other figure, and I was curious about what else I might find, so I did some
digging.

Here are links to the certification data sheets that I found, including a
link to search for information onother brands and models:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N29C22FDD Lycoming o-235
http://makeashorterlink.com/?M2CC24FDD Rolls Royce C-90 & O-200
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K13D23FDD Continental C-75 & C-85
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J36D13FDD Continental C-90 & O-200
http://makeashorterlink.com/?C39D26FDD Search by Product Type

Note that "Product Type" is really "Certificate Holder" in alphabetical
order and then you can expand the entries and look for the actual product
type in alphanumeric order.

Don't expect miracles all the time--the server seems to get overloaded, and
did so while I was searching.

I hope this helps.

Peter

[DonMorrisey]

> Your weighing of the O-235 came much closer to my recollection than the
> other figure, and I was curious about what else I might find, so I did some
> digging.


Peter, you are the man, that is exactly the info I was looking for.
Looks like the C-85 w/o baffles, exhaust or prop but including
lightweight starter and alternator, carb, fuel pump, air scoop &
filter, oil cooler, ignition and 5 quarts of oil will come in at 221
pounds. The 0-235 L2C that I had weighed had a starter and no oil and
weighed 241, with all the other components it would have been 269
pounds.

Thanks very much. Don

[Peter Dohm]

"DonMorrisey" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> > Your weighing of the O-235 came much closer to my recollection than the
> > other figure, and I was curious about what else I might find, so I did
some
> > digging.
>
>
> Peter, you are the man, that is exactly the info I was looking for.
> Looks like the C-85 w/o baffles, exhaust or prop but including
> lightweight starter and alternator, carb, fuel pump, air scoop &
> filter, oil cooler, ignition and 5 quarts of oil will come in at 221
> pounds. The 0-235 L2C that I had weighed had a starter and no oil and
> weighed 241, with all the other components it would have been 269
> pounds.
>
> Thanks very much. Don
>
You're welcome.

Peter

[Reggie]

DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hi folks. I can't seem to nail down the weight of this engine and I'm
> suspect of published weights. For example Lycoming publishes the
> weight of an 0-235 as 218 pounds and when I had one weighed it was 241
> w/no alternator. Can anyone help me on a C-85? If you have a weight
> pls tell me what is included in that. Or give me a link if you have a
> reliable published report.
>
> Thanks. Don....
>************************************************** *****************

From theContinental Overhaul Manual:
Basic Engine, Model C85-8F................................158.84 #
Basic Engine,Model C85-12F..............................168.60 #
Marvel-Schebler Carburetor MA-3SPA...................2.62 #
Two Magnetos (bendix S4RN-21 or S4LN-21........12.12 #
Eight Shielded Spark Plugs..................................1.75 #
Shielded Ignition Harness...O-200).........................3.81 #
Delco-Remy Starter........................................... ..15.50 #
Delco-Remy Generator......................................... 10.12 #
Propeller Attaching Parts.......................................1.70 #

Carburetor Air Intake & Filter Assy.........................3.12 #
Eight Rubber Mount Bush & Steel Washers------------0.55 #
Harrison Oil Cooler Eqpt.........................................4.25 #
AC Fuel Pump.............................................. .........1.71
#

Pick Your Weight.............

[ELIPPSE]

DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hi folks. I can't seem to nail down the weight of this engine and I'm
> suspect of published weights. For example Lycoming publishes the
> weight of an 0-235 as 218 pounds and when I had one weighed it was 241
> w/no alternator. Can anyone help me on a C-85? If you have a weight
> pls tell me what is included in that. Or give me a link if you have a
> reliable published report.
>
> Thanks. Don....
Hmmmm! 'Don't know where you got that O-235 number. Lycoming
Specification #2499-G gives the weight of the O-235-L2A as 252 lb and
the O-235-L2C as 249 lb.

[DonMorrisey]

> Hmmmm! 'Don't know where you got that O-235 number. Lycoming
> Specification #2499-G gives the weight of the O-235-L2A as 252 lb and
> the O-235-L2C as 249 lb.

The engine was weighed at Mattituck and did not have oil in it. I
assume that's the difference as 6 quarts would equal about 10 lbs.

Don...

[Stache]

According to the type certificate data sheet (E-233) the weight (dry),
lb. 177, 182, 178, or 180 depending on what is installed. This engine
was certificated under CAR-13 and is weighed without oil.

The TCDS can be found on the FAA web site at: http://www.faa.gov in
the search block type in type certificate data sheet, then type in
E-233.

Stache

[Charlie[_1_]]

Lou wrote:
> I came across an old posting from 1999 with this. Hope it helps.
>
> Rotax 503 50 85
> Great Plains VW 1600CC 55 160
> Hirth F23-EP2 60 70
> Jabira 60 119
> PZL 2A-120 60 129
> Rotax 582 63 95 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc.
> Continental A-65 65 173
> Limbach L 1800 66 154
> Limbach L 1700 66 161
> Rotax 618 74 136 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc.
> Great Plains VW 2180CC 75 165
> Franklin 225 75 230
> Limbach L 2000 80 155
> Rotax 912 80 165 Includes 20 lbs radiator, et
> Continental C-85 85 207
> Limbach L 2400 94 181
> Continental C-90 95 207
> Great Plains VW 2600CC 96 190
> Stratus Subaru EA-81 100 205
> Continental O-200 100 220
> CAM-100 100 225 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc
> Formula Power C100 104 210
> Rotax 914 115 155
> Lycoming O-235 115 215
> PZL 4A-235 116 226
> Hirth F30-FP24 120 101
> Continental IO-240 125 250
> Continental O-300 145 277
> Lycoming O-320-A 150 243
> Lycoming O-320-D 160 253
> Franklin 335 165 320
> Formula Power F170 174 270
> Lycoming O-360-A 180 265
> Lycoming IO-360-A 200 293
> NW Aero Ford V6 200 415
> PZL 6A-350 205 330
> Continental IO-360 210 350
> NW Aero Chevy V6 230 420
> Lycoming O-540-B 235 366
> Lycoming O-540-E 260 368
> Formula Power F260 274 390
> Lycoming IO-540-K 300 443
> Continental IO-520 300 459
> Lycoming IO-720 400 568
>
quick reality check: rotax 912: 80 hp, 165 lb; 914: 115 hp, 155 lb.

addition of the turbo lightens the engine by 10 lbs??

most of the other numbers look believable, but without a scale, who knows?