Center: Say type aircraft... Me: Citabria 7GCBC, Center: Ahhhhh???

[Nik]

Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took me into pretty
high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me flight
following, ok call made, radar contact established 10 miles NW of XXX.
Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
allright we'll lookout for you.
Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.

Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
7GCBC?

Help me out here guys...

[Jim Macklin]

Just Citabria should do.


"Nik" > wrote in message
ps.com...
| Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took
me into pretty
| high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
| I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me
flight
| following, ok call made, radar contact established 10
miles NW of XXX.
| Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria
7GCBC, the
| controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in
reply,
| allright we'll lookout for you.
| Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as
planned.
|
| Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead
of Citabria
| 7GCBC?
|
| Help me out here guys...
|

[Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]]

"Nik" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took me into pretty
> high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
> I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me flight
> following, ok call made, radar contact established 10 miles NW of XXX.
> Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
> controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
> allright we'll lookout for you.
> Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
>
> Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
> 7GCBC?
>
> Help me out here guys...
>

The best response would be CH7B, it's what would be needed for computer
entry.

[Larry Dighera]

On 1 Oct 2006 21:24:27 -0700, "Nik" > wrote in
m>:

>Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
>controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
>allright we'll lookout for you.
>Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
>
>Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
>7GCBC?
>
>Help me out here guys...

You seem to be aware of the information provided in the table here:
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/acdesig.html . That it the Type
Designator ATC expects to receive from pilots.

[Nik]

Just Citabria did not do it either yesterday...
So I should say CH7B and then my N number right?

-Nik
Larry Dighera wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 21:24:27 -0700, "Nik" > wrote in
> m>:
>
> >Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
> >controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
> >allright we'll lookout for you.
> >Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
> >
> >Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
> >7GCBC?
> >
> >Help me out here guys...
>
> You seem to be aware of the information provided in the table here:
> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/acdesig.html . That it the Type
> Designator ATC expects to receive from pilots.

[Nik]

Thanks guys...
-Nik
Larry Dighera wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 21:24:27 -0700, "Nik" > wrote in
> m>:
>
> >Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
> >controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
> >allright we'll lookout for you.
> >Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
> >
> >Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
> >7GCBC?
> >
> >Help me out here guys...
>
> You seem to be aware of the information provided in the table here:
> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/acdesig.html . That it the Type
> Designator ATC expects to receive from pilots.

[Rich Badaracco]

I was flying home from Hunstville, AL yesterday. Did this happen around
the NC/SC border? I think I heard the exchange. The controller clearly
had no idea what type aircraft this was.

Rich Badaracco
Director - Angel Flight North Carolina

Nik wrote:
> Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took me into pretty
> high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
> I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me flight
> following, ok call made, radar contact established 10 miles NW of XXX.
> Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
> controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
> allright we'll lookout for you.
> Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
>
> Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
> 7GCBC?
>
> Help me out here guys...
>

[Nik]

No it did not, I flew to St. Louis..

-Nik
Rich Badaracco wrote:
> I was flying home from Hunstville, AL yesterday. Did this happen around
> the NC/SC border? I think I heard the exchange. The controller clearly
> had no idea what type aircraft this was.
>
> Rich Badaracco
> Director - Angel Flight North Carolina
>
> Nik wrote:
> > Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took me into pretty
> > high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
> > I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me flight
> > following, ok call made, radar contact established 10 miles NW of XXX.
> > Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
> > controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
> > allright we'll lookout for you.
> > Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
> >
> > Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
> > 7GCBC?
> >
> > Help me out here guys...
> >

[Larry Dighera]

On 2 Oct 2006 08:01:41 -0700, "Nik" > wrote in
. com>:

>So I should say CH7B and then my N number right?

When ATC says, "Say aircraft type." Your response should be, "CH7B."
You might want to consult the Aeronautical Information Manual
<http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/> for information on correct radio
procedure. After that, if you find you would like to research the
subject further, I heartily recommend Mr. Gardner's book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1560275731?v=glance

[BT]

Citabria would have been enough..
Actually he was asking for what type of Flight plan ID you use in the
"aircraft type" section
so he could load it in his computer. Answer up with that and he would have
been happy.

BT


"Rich Badaracco" > wrote in message
...
>I was flying home from Hunstville, AL yesterday. Did this happen around the
>NC/SC border? I think I heard the exchange. The controller clearly had no
>idea what type aircraft this was.
>
> Rich Badaracco
> Director - Angel Flight North Carolina
>
> Nik wrote:
>> Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took me into pretty
>> high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
>> I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me flight
>> following, ok call made, radar contact established 10 miles NW of XXX.
>> Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
>> controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
>> allright we'll lookout for you.
>> Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
>>
>> Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
>> 7GCBC?
>>
>> Help me out here guys...
>>

[Deane Judd]

Nik wrote:
> Ok so I requested flight-following because my route took me into pretty
> high traffic areas (inside Class B and surrounding)
> I was on a Flight Plan and requested center to give me flight
> following, ok call made, radar contact established 10 miles NW of XXX.
> Then he asked me: say type aircraft, I said: Citabria 7GCBC, the
> controller seemed confused for a second, and just said in reply,
> allright we'll lookout for you.
> Other than that the flight went on perfectly and as planned.
>
> Is the type I am saying wrong? Should it be CH7A instead of Citabria
> 7GCBC?
>
> Help me out here guys...
>
The controller (Oakland Center and/or Norcal Approach out here in
California at least) was asking for the equipment code, e.g. /U
(Transponder with Mode C), /A (Transponder with Mode C, DME equipped, etc...

E.g., when calling for flight following, after ATC acknowledges my
initial call, I say "Cessna 1514V is a 172 slash alpha, <location>,
<destination>, request flight following"

Once I included the "/A" to my request, I since never have been asked
"say type aircraft".

Deane Judd
Cessna R172K N1514V
Hollister CA

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:41:58 GMT, Deane Judd >
wrote in >:

>
>Once I included the "/A" to my request, I since never have been asked
>"say type aircraft".

There's no correlation between the Equipment Code and the Type
Designator, that I'm aware of.

What type aircraft are you flying?

[John Godwin]

Larry Dighera > wrote in
:

> There's no correlation between the Equipment Code and the Type
> Designator, that I'm aware of.
>
> What type aircraft are you flying?
>
I got a real kick one time when NorCal asked for my aircraft type and
I responded "RALL/A" and he responded "We don't get many of those ..
are you a Commodore?"

It's just rather surprising someone knows about the Rallye line.


--

[Deane Judd]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:41:58 GMT, Deane Judd >
> wrote in >:
>
>> Once I included the "/A" to my request, I since never have been asked
>> "say type aircraft".
>
> There's no correlation between the Equipment Code and the Type
> Designator, that I'm aware of.

Agreed.

>
> What type aircraft are you flying?
>

I fly a 1977 Cessna R172K (XP). It has a DME installed as well as a mode
C transponder, so the equipment code is "/A".

The point I was trying to make was that although ATC is stating "say
type aircraft", I believe they want to know the equipment code, in
addition to the type of Cessna. My experience was that saying, "Cessna
172," resulted in their repeating the question (statement). Once I
learned to say, "Cessna 172 /A", they were satisfied. I've not been
asked "say type aircraft" for the last 10 years or so, ever since I
added the "/A".