How can an alleged Jew as Dave Touretzky work at the CMU?

[Barbara Schwarz[_1_]]

Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
Jewish or not, should be outraged too.

We know history repeats itself. If somebody thinks that the Holocaust
can't happen again, he has the IQ of an insect.

And there is Dave Touretzky, a bigger friend to p$ychiatry (a rotten
German invention) than to his own race? Why is he wasting his time
going after another religion instead going after the Nazis at the CMU?

Barbara Schwarz

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Wednesday, September 27, 2006

In response to Eric Heyl's excellent column about the Carnegie Mellon
University students who, as Heyl said, "thought it would be funny to
mark
one of Judaism's holiest days by making Holocaust jokes ... in the
latest
edition of readme, a supposedly satirical newsletter produced by
members
of the university Student Activities Board" ("CMU burns in satire hell
once again," Sept. 24 and PghTrib.com):

The late Bob Prince was fond of saying, "Trouble starts at the top and
filters down."

Now is the time for CMU President Jared Cohon to recognize and heed
this
principle so that he can regain leadership at CMU.

His high-minded, lofty experiment with diversity isn't working and some
of
his students are out of control.


We suggest a sensitivity training class for Dr. Cohon, all students
involved and all individuals who signed off on the "readme" satire
headlined "Carnegie Mellon Builds New Hauschwitz Dormitory."

This sensitivity class should include watching "The Pawnbroker,"
"Shoah,"
"Schindler's List" and documentary photos of the Nazi concentration
camps
upon liberation.

Today we have a madman in the Middle East -- Ahmadinejad, a Holocaust
denier -- whose agenda is to eliminate Israel and murder all Jews, all
Christians and all infidels. Why should these insensitive students be
allowed to fuel his raging hatred?

Only Ahmadinejad would find this sophomoric satire funny.

[Barbara Schwarz[_1_]]

And here is the other article. Which role will Dave Touretzky play in
CMU's "Hauschwitz"? A warden or a prisoner?

What are those Nazi-loving CMU students, retards or what? How dumb may
students be, who are allowed to study at the CMU?

Barbara Schwarz

By Eric Heyl
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, September 24, 2006

Some Carnegie Mellon University students thought it would be funny to
mark
one of Judaism's holiest days by making Holocaust jokes.

I refer you to the latest edition of readme, a supposedly satirical
newsletter produced by members of the university Student Activities
Board.

One of the mock news stories, distributed Wednesday two days before the
Jewish community observed Rosh Hashanah, bore the headline: "Carnegie
Mellon Builds New Hauschwitz Dormitory."

Some excerpts from the anonymously-written piece:


CMU has announced plans to open a new residence hall, New Hauschwitz,
located at 6,000,000 Forbes Avenue.

"We're proud to say New Hauschwitz will boast the largest kitchens and
showers on campus," said housing Dean Adam Gobell. "The facility will
house CMU's newest eatery, the Birkenau Grill."

Newly arriving students will be greeted at the train station by members
of
Sigma Heil, and then escorted to their rooms by the Sig-Sigs. The only
complaints (about the rooms) to date have been over the weak water
pressure, poor ventilation and mysterious scratch marks on the
blue-tinted
walls.

Anyone laughing yet?

Didn't think so.

Calls and e-mails to the Student Activities Board were not returned
Friday. Perhaps those responsible for the Hauschwitz article were out
defacing a synagogue, mistakenly assuming people would find that
amusing
as well.

CMU officials said the activities board pulled most of the offending
issues from circulation Wednesday evening.

Spokeswoman Teresa Thomas would not identify the author or indicate
what,
if any, disciplinary action might be taken. "Writers for the
publication
are currently considering how to most appropriately respond to those
concerned," she said.

Dean of Student Affairs Jennifer Church issued this statement: "The
story
in readme, whatever the satirical intention of the readme publication,
offends our deepest sensibilities as a community."

The CMU community's collective memory about producing such tasteless
material seems abysmally short.

The 2004 April Fool's edition of the student newspaper, The Tartan,
contained a cartoon in which a racial slur was used by a character
bragging about running over a black person.

The university was thrown into an uproar.

The newspaper temporarily suspended publication and the cartoonist was
fired. A campus panel established to examine the controversy concluded
CMU
needed to better weave themes of diversity throughout the university.

The panel apparently needs to reconvene to categorically state that
offending Jews as well as blacks isn't quite what it meant by
diversity.

During the Tartan debacle, CMU President Jared Cohon noted that while
academic freedom ensures a free exchange of ideas and opinions, being
an
educated person means treating others with respect.

At the time, Cohon said, "It pains me that we have students here who
would
conceive of and publish such a thing, who could possibly believe
something
like this was funny or ironic."

It should pain Cohon now that his words remain as appropriate today as
they were two years ago.






Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
> Jewish or not, should be outraged too.
>
> We know history repeats itself. If somebody thinks that the Holocaust
> can't happen again, he has the IQ of an insect.
>
> And there is Dave Touretzky, a bigger friend to p$ychiatry (a rotten
> German invention) than to his own race? Why is he wasting his time
> going after another religion instead going after the Nazis at the CMU?
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
> Subscribe
> Wednesday, September 27, 2006
>
> In response to Eric Heyl's excellent column about the Carnegie Mellon
> University students who, as Heyl said, "thought it would be funny to
> mark
> one of Judaism's holiest days by making Holocaust jokes ... in the
> latest
> edition of readme, a supposedly satirical newsletter produced by
> members
> of the university Student Activities Board" ("CMU burns in satire hell
> once again," Sept. 24 and PghTrib.com):
>
> The late Bob Prince was fond of saying, "Trouble starts at the top and
> filters down."
>
> Now is the time for CMU President Jared Cohon to recognize and heed
> this
> principle so that he can regain leadership at CMU.
>
> His high-minded, lofty experiment with diversity isn't working and some
> of
> his students are out of control.
>
>
> We suggest a sensitivity training class for Dr. Cohon, all students
> involved and all individuals who signed off on the "readme" satire
> headlined "Carnegie Mellon Builds New Hauschwitz Dormitory."
>
> This sensitivity class should include watching "The Pawnbroker,"
> "Shoah,"
> "Schindler's List" and documentary photos of the Nazi concentration
> camps
> upon liberation.
>
> Today we have a madman in the Middle East -- Ahmadinejad, a Holocaust
> denier -- whose agenda is to eliminate Israel and murder all Jews, all
> Christians and all infidels. Why should these insensitive students be
> allowed to fuel his raging hatred?
>
> Only Ahmadinejad would find this sophomoric satire funny.

[antisectes]

How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?

r

[Paul F. Johnson]

Barbara Schwarz wrote:

> Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
> Jewish or not, should be outraged too.

What the hell is an "alledged Jew"? You're either a Jew or you're not. Stop
being such a ****wit Babbles and go for that course of deprogramming you
booked months back but failed to attend...

--
"Der einzige Weg, Leute zu kontrollieren ist sie anzulügen" - L. Ron "Ich
kann kein Science-Fiction schreiben" Hubbard; Lügner, Betrüger, Fixer und
Wohltäter zu niemandem

[Barbara Schwarz[_1_]]

antisectes wrote:
> How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
>
> r

Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel, Roger Gonnet. You must be on drugs or
p$ychiatric hypnotized. This is the only way to explain your behavior.

-- Barbara Schwarz
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html

The generosity of L. Ron Hubbard: "The hardest task one can have is to
continue to love his fellows despite all reasons he should not. And the
true sign of sanity and greatness is to so continue. For the one who
can archive this, there is abundant hope." -- L.Ron Hubbard (From What
is Greatness? Certainty Vol. 13 No. 3, March 1966)

"It takes truth to live with a swiftly changing world. Nothing less
than truth can survive." -- L. Ron Hubbard

[barbz]

Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> antisectes wrote:
>> How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
>>
>> r
>
> Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel, Roger Gonnet. You must be on drugs or
> p$ychiatric hypnotized. This is the only way to explain your behavior.
>
> -- Barbara Schwarz
> http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
>
> The generosity of L. Ron Hubbard: "The hardest task one can have is to
> continue to love his fellows despite all reasons he should not. And the
> true sign of sanity and greatness is to so continue. For the one who
> can archive this, there is abundant hope." -- L.Ron Hubbard (From What
> is Greatness? Certainty Vol. 13 No. 3, March 1966)
>
> "It takes truth to live with a swiftly changing world. Nothing less
> than truth can survive." -- L. Ron Hubbard
>
What's your excuse, Babbles?
From President of Scientology, Germany, to Salt Lake City bag
lady...you are one of Scientology's greatest examples of how they take
normal people and twist them until they believe in radio controlled
germs, Nazi ear implants, need I go on?

--
"I'm for the separation of church and hate."

Barb
Chaplain, ARSCC(wdne)

[Paul F. Johnson]

barbz wrote:

> need I go on?

No but I'm pretty sure the bag lady will. I can just *feel* another diatribe
of gibberings about Wikipedia coming from her...

--
"Der einzige Weg, Leute zu kontrollieren ist sie anzulügen" - L. Ron "Ich
kann kein Science-Fiction schreiben" Hubbard; Lügner, Betrüger, Fixer und
Wohltäter zu niemandem

[Barbara Schwarz[_1_]]

Paul F. Johnson wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>
> > Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
> > Jewish or not, should be outraged too.
>
> What the hell is an "alledged Jew"? You're either a Jew or you're not.

In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
isn't a Jew. A Jew knows what the p$ychs did to the Jews during the
Holocaust. A real Jew also wouldn't feel well in middle of Nazi
slurs/activities in the CMU but would fight this kind of Neo-Nazism
with the appropriate and very energic activities. A real Jew doesn't
persecute other religions as he understands how it feels being
persecuted.

A real Jew would never be an anti-religious extremist and hang with
other extremists who have Nazi connections to Holocaust revisionists. I
never read that Dave Touretzky spoke out against p$ychs and Nazis. But
I keep looking and hoping that he comes to his senses.

See, Paul Babbles Johnson, now you learned something from my book.

Perhaps DT is a German p$ych baby and was exchanged with the real
Jewish Dave? Himmler bragged that the Nazis kidnap kids. And they
didn't really die out in 1945.

Anything is possible in a p$ychiatric world like that.

However, I am very sure that DT has no Jewish time track. If he would
have been persecuted for his religion or race for centuries after
centuries, he could never work for p$ychs or have friends with Nazi
connections. Never. He also would not go after SCN or other religion.
He also would order porn supplements as this is against the Jewish
religion. Ask a rabbi.


-- Barbara Schwarz
http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html

The generosity of L. Ron Hubbard: "The hardest task one can have is to
continue to love his fellows despite all reasons he should not. And the
true sign of sanity and greatness is to so continue. For the one who
can archive this, there is abundant hope." -- L.Ron Hubbard (From What
is Greatness? Certainty Vol. 13 No. 3, March 1966)

"It takes truth to live with a swiftly changing world. Nothing less
than truth can survive." -- L. Ron Hubbard

[SirLagsAlot]

"Barbara Schwarz" > wrote in message
s.com...
>
> Paul F. Johnson wrote:
> > Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> >
> > > Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
> > > Jewish or not, should be outraged too.
> >
> > What the hell is an "alledged Jew"? You're either a Jew or you're not.
>
> In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
> isn't a Jew. A Jew knows what the p$ychs did to the Jews during the
> Holocaust. A real Jew also wouldn't feel well in middle of Nazi
> slurs/activities in the CMU but would fight this kind of Neo-Nazism
> with the appropriate and very energic activities. A real Jew doesn't
> persecute other religions as he understands how it feels being
> persecuted.
>
> A real Jew would never be an anti-religious extremist and hang with
> other extremists who have Nazi connections to Holocaust revisionists. I
> never read that Dave Touretzky spoke out against p$ychs and Nazis. But
> I keep looking and hoping that he comes to his senses.

a real jew wouldnt shell out $360,000 taking scientology courses

(I know it's a stereotype..couldnt resist)


>
> See, Paul Babbles Johnson, now you learned something from my book.
>
> Perhaps DT is a German p$ych baby and was exchanged with the real
> Jewish Dave? Himmler bragged that the Nazis kidnap kids. And they
> didn't really die out in 1945.
>
> Anything is possible in a p$ychiatric world like that.
>
> However, I am very sure that DT has no Jewish time track. If he would
> have been persecuted for his religion or race for centuries after
> centuries, he could never work for p$ychs or have friends with Nazi
> connections. Never. He also would not go after SCN or other religion.
> He also would order porn supplements as this is against the Jewish
> religion. Ask a rabbi.
>
>
> -- Barbara Schwarz
> http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
>
> The generosity of L. Ron Hubbard: "The hardest task one can have is to
> continue to love his fellows despite all reasons he should not. And the
> true sign of sanity and greatness is to so continue. For the one who
> can archive this, there is abundant hope." -- L.Ron Hubbard (From What
> is Greatness? Certainty Vol. 13 No. 3, March 1966)
>
> "It takes truth to live with a swiftly changing world. Nothing less
> than truth can survive." -- L. Ron Hubbard
>

[Xenu-Slave]

Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
> isn't a Jew. A Jew knows what the p$ychs did to the Jews during the
> Holocaust. A real Jew also wouldn't feel well in middle of Nazi
> slurs/activities in the CMU but would fight this kind of Neo-Nazism
> with the appropriate and very energic activities. A real Jew doesn't
> persecute other religions as he understands how it feels being
> persecuted.
>
> A real Jew would never be an anti-religious extremist and hang with
> other extremists who have Nazi connections to Holocaust revisionists. I
> never read that Dave Touretzky spoke out against p$ychs and Nazis. But
> I keep looking and hoping that he comes to his senses.
>
> See, Paul Babbles Johnson, now you learned something from my book.
>
> Perhaps DT is a German p$ych baby and was exchanged with the real
> Jewish Dave? Himmler bragged that the Nazis kidnap kids. And they
> didn't really die out in 1945.
>
> Anything is possible in a p$ychiatric world like that.
>
> However, I am very sure that DT has no Jewish time track. If he would
> have been persecuted for his religion or race for centuries after
> centuries, he could never work for p$ychs or have friends with Nazi
> connections. Never. He also would not go after SCN or other religion.
> He also would order porn supplements as this is against the Jewish
> religion. Ask a rabbi.
>
>
> -- Barbara Schwarz

I don't think Jew's need you telling them how they should behave
Barbara. That article is not funny and in extremely poor taste but I
don't see what it has to do with Prof. Touretzky.

[laraine]

Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
> isn't a Jew.

On the other hand, don't forget that (Austrian)
Freud, who can certainly be called one of the
first important modern psychiatrists, was Jewish.
Psychiatry has done a lot of good for people,
and of course, like anything else, it can be
abused. Perhaps those students would actually
be helped by psychology or psychiatry or group
therapy--it doesn't sound like they are getting any
of that.

C.

[Feisty]

"Anonymous" ]> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:14:05 -0700, barbz > wrote:
>
>>Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>>> antisectes wrote:
>>>> How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
>>>>
>>>> r
>>>
>>> Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel, Roger Gonnet. You must be on drugs or
>>> p$ychiatric hypnotized. This is the only way to explain your behavior.
>>>
>>> -- Barbara Schwarz
>>> http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
>>>
>>What's your excuse, Babbles?
>> Salt Lake City bag lady...
>
> What's on your resume Ms. Graham?
>
> 1) Picket
> 2) write letters
> 4) $cientology kills

From: Rev Fredric L. Rice - view profile
Date: Sun, May 20 2001 10:51 pm

Here's a repost of the original protest report filed on 26/Jun/2000,
the day that Scientology killed Stacy Moxon. This is the first time
that we see reports of the Scientology organization -- which claims
to be in mortal fear of protesters and picketers -- offer to take
them out to lunch.

Only later did activists learn that the Scientologists were trying to
cover up yet another homicide; one that had taken place the very minute
that human rights protesters were out there protesting the Ashlee Shaner
homicide. It wasn't until at least a week later that we learned that
the latest homicide victim was Stacy Moxon, daughter of noted crime
figure Kendrick Moxon, named "co-conspirator" in the notorious "Snow
White" espionage case.

-=-

Picket Report, Gold Base, 6-25-00

Shy David and I arrived at Gold Base at approximately 10:00 a.m.
Happily, there was a high overcast cloud cover thanks to the tropical
storm off Baja; the temp was in the 80s. We paused to place prayer
feathers at the little Ashlee shrine by the side of the road. David got
attacked by ants.

David was using one of Keith's signs, mine said 'Scientology Kills' on
one side and, 'Ron is Gone But the Con Lives On' on the other.

We started picketing from the shrine and began working our way south,
David acting as tour guide. The wheelbarrow of dried cement is still
there! The parrot is still there too, because it's a pet, not a loose
bird. I didn't hear it say Xenu, but it squawked a lot.

It didn't take too long for our first handler to emerge from the base.
This nattily dressed OT feller's name was Ken. He was wearing a dark
suit dispite the heat, lots of gold buttons, gold Scientology ring. His
shoes would have passed inspection, and the ants did not attack him. He
was superficially friendly, and asked the usual questions, who, why, and
so forth. David wouldn't give him his name, as he suspects they already
know it. But Ken played dumb. (We heard "I'm out of the loop" a lot of
times that day!) So, "Grayhat" and Barb were our handles for the day. We
were about to an underpass on 79, when Ken started talking about
breakfast. He thought it would be good for us to all go eat out together
and chat about how our differences could be resolved. He said he'd buy.

Anyone who knows me is aware that I seldom turn down a free meal! But I
got this weird sense that, for some reason, Ken was trying to get us
away from Gold. We gracefully declined the invitation. I suggested we
make a date for some future meeting, but he didn't respond.
Ken kept asking if we could "stop and talk." Well, being it
was a picket and all, we told him we had to keep moving and if he wished,
he could accompany us. Ken informed us that the mysterious 'ritual post'
mentioned by Keith was just an intercom.

We did stop for a smoke break, at which point I bummed a smoke off Ken,
having left mine in the car. (Shades of Jacques in London, I sniveled
his next to last smoke!)

Thanks Ken! I appreciated the smoke. Next time, the smokes are on me.

At one point, Ken asked us if we'd ever broken the law.
"Anyone who says otherwise, would be lying," I replied.
I asked him where he was going with this.
Nowhere, apparently. He segued into some other topic.

Discussing the tech with Ken, I inquired of him why the San Diego org
was so downstat that it couldn't even get the Sunday services listed in
the paper correctly.

"People make mistakes," he said. I pointed out that this has been
an ongoing thing, and that it wasted the org's resources. I outlined for
him how simple it is to get an ad in the paper every week, and suggested
he pass on my comments to San Diego. Before we parted, he asked for my
phone number so he could call and chat. I offered him my email addy
instead, said offer was ignored. It didn't occur to me at the time that
Ken may not be online.

Finally, Ken's beeper muttered at him, and a woman handler emerged from
the clambed. He left us in her hands. I don't recall her name offhand,
but she was perhaps 5'6 max, ash brown pageboy, dark glasses, and a bad
knee, so I'll call her Gimpy.

That was the first thing she said to us, that she had a bad knee, and
could we stop to talk? We invited her to keep up with us, as we were
picketing and had to keep moving by law. Then, she started asking us the
same questions as Ken. We told her she could ask him, as we'd already
covered that ground.

She then morphed into a tour guide, pointing out the new blue trimmed
residences they're building. There's one beautiful stone building to the
east of 79, partway up the ridge overlooking Gold. I asked her what it
was.

"Office buildings," she replied. (Ida says it's Davey's house.) We
discussed architecture. I told her that the lumpy brown pseudocastle did
not say Scotland to me. It said Southern California Disney, and ugly to
boot. I did compliment Davey's house and the new structures though. They
are quite nice looking. Perhaps I'll buy one when that property becomes
available following some court case.

Then, she tried bullbaiting me. Me! Ex-punk rocker don't give a **** me!
She suggested I could benefit from Prozac. (drug endorsement from an OT?
Wow!) I laughed, and said I was not only not depressed, I am downright
chucklelicious! "You seem a bit unstable," she said.

I laughed again. "I'm an artist. You name me one artist who isn't a
little whacky!"

She terminated that program and we changed the subject.

She started talking about how we should sit down and have breakfast.

"Can't you smell the food in the mess hall? It smells great!" Look, I
can smell food miles away, and I am here to tell you, there wasn't
anything cooking! She seemed to be inviting us into Gold Base to break
bread with her! Again, we declined the invitation.

As we went by the entrance again, another fellow came out. This one's
name was Robert. He also was being nice. I must say, this guy was
incredibly uninformed about current events. I had to tell him who
General Colin Powell is! He didn't know anything about anything, it was
kind of startling to me. No computer, no tv, no newspapers...reminds me
of the first two weeks of basic military training! We all stood around
through introductions, then she started chatting up Robert so David and
I continued on. We left the two of them way behind. Oddly, Gimpy hustled
to catch up with us. Her knee was apparently better!

David and I continued north, trailed by our gaggle of OT handlers. A
vehicle pulled up across the street, and a guy with a big camcorder got
out.

"Quick!" I said to Gimp. "Hold this!" and extended my
sign to her. Her hand moved to take it before she caught herself, and Robert
and I cracked up. I made our handlers burst out laughing several times. I
am a Joker, all right.

David got the sense that they were trying to keep us from the south. We
walked all the way down several times, but saw nothing out of the
ordinary. Thinking about it later, I believe I know why they were doing
this. I bet they were under orders to keep picketers away from Davey's
house.

David brought up many topics to our handlers about which they claimed
ignorance. "I'm out of the loop," was said repeatedly. They all
denied having access to KRs and so forth. I hope David will post, I don't
remember them all. Mark Bunker's hammerfest was one.

We didn't have any fliers, but there was a steady stream of traffic,
with accompanying honks, waves, and thumbs up, which our handlers
ignored. You have to wonder what they think when someone drives by
yelling, "Yeah!" and giving us thumbs up.

We left Gold around 1:00, and stopped by Ida's for lunch and a visit.
Thanks to Ida for the hospitality! Let's do lunch again soon!

I guess the OTs did get me though. On the way home, the train ran out of
fuel and we had to wait for a freight locomotive to come and push us
into the San Diego train station! We got in just after 2400.

As far as I know, there was no revenge picket at my place but then, if
there had been, I'm sure the fliers would have been gone by midnight.

Submitted for your approval and so forth,
--barb

>
> --The Voice
>
>
>

[Barbara Schwarz]

Anonymous schrieb:

> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:14:05 -0700, barbz > wrote:
>
> >Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> >> antisectes wrote:
> >>> How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
> >>>
> >>> r
> >>
> >> Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel, Roger Gonnet. You must be on drugs or
> >> p$ychiatric hypnotized. This is the only way to explain your behavior.
> >>
> >> -- Barbara Schwarz
> >> http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
> >>
> >What's your excuse, Babbles?

I have no excuse as I never was a Nazi. I speak out against Nazi since
my first breath.

> > Salt Lake City bag lady...

Lol.
>
> What's on your resume Ms. Graham?
>
> 1) Drunk driver
> 2) Convict
> 3) Stalker
> 4) Harboring a fugitive
>
> --The Voice


Nice voice. :)

I am a lady without bag, Barbzzz Babbles Graham is a bag without a
lady.

She also is a
5) manufacturer of a prohibited weapon
6) a fake chaplain
7) phoney
8) claimed that she worked for NSA
9) and posted that a crime is no crime as long she isn't caught.
10) should I go on.

She can't even park her trash of a motorcycle without getting towed.



http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&


U.S. Congress sees Wikipedia as foul mud. We sure need laws against the
Wikipiggi cult.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635203427,00.html

[Barbara Schwarz]

Feisty schrieb:

> "Anonymous" ]> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:14:05 -0700, barbz > wrote:


Okay, Feisty, also called the Anti-Feist is Maureen Drueck, a friend of
Arnie Lerma, who is friends with Nazi revisionist Willis Carto. Feisty
spams off topic. Frederic Rice is no Reverend by a defamer cook. Feisty
also spammed postings of David Duke. No wonder she wants to disturb
this thread with her incoherent spam.

Stacey Moxon was the daughter of the lead attorney of the Church of
Scientology. She was also a Scientologist. The C of S had no reason at
all to murder Stacey. Why, that her dad drops all the cases and loses
them? If somebody has the reason to murder Stacey then it was
Scientology haters to make her dad drop all the cases and lose them.

See how dumb Feisty is?

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Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

[Barbara Schwarz]

SirLagsAlot schrieb:

> "Barbara Schwarz" > wrote in message
> s.com...
> >
> > Paul F. Johnson wrote:
> > > Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > >
> > > > Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
> > > > Jewish or not, should be outraged too.
> > >
> > > What the hell is an "alledged Jew"? You're either a Jew or you're not.
> >
> > In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
> > isn't a Jew. A Jew knows what the p$ychs did to the Jews during the
> > Holocaust. A real Jew also wouldn't feel well in middle of Nazi
> > slurs/activities in the CMU but would fight this kind of Neo-Nazism
> > with the appropriate and very energic activities. A real Jew doesn't
> > persecute other religions as he understands how it feels being
> > persecuted.
> >
> > A real Jew would never be an anti-religious extremist and hang with
> > other extremists who have Nazi connections to Holocaust revisionists. I
> > never read that Dave Touretzky spoke out against p$ychs and Nazis. But
> > I keep looking and hoping that he comes to his senses.
>
> a real jew wouldnt shell out $360,000 taking scientology courses

Huh?

I saw you posting three swastikas on Usenet. You are disgusting,
Randall.
Interesting is that the real Nazis are not being called Nazis on ARS
only those who are 100 % no Nazis.

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--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

[Barbara Schwarz]

Xenu-Slave schrieb:

> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
> > isn't a Jew. A Jew knows what the p$ychs did to the Jews during the
> > Holocaust. A real Jew also wouldn't feel well in middle of Nazi
> > slurs/activities in the CMU but would fight this kind of Neo-Nazism
> > with the appropriate and very energic activities. A real Jew doesn't
> > persecute other religions as he understands how it feels being
> > persecuted.
> >
> > A real Jew would never be an anti-religious extremist and hang with
> > other extremists who have Nazi connections to Holocaust revisionists. I
> > never read that Dave Touretzky spoke out against p$ychs and Nazis. But
> > I keep looking and hoping that he comes to his senses.
> >
> > See, Paul Babbles Johnson, now you learned something from my book.
> >
> > Perhaps DT is a German p$ych baby and was exchanged with the real
> > Jewish Dave? Himmler bragged that the Nazis kidnap kids. And they
> > didn't really die out in 1945.
> >
> > Anything is possible in a p$ychiatric world like that.
> >
> > However, I am very sure that DT has no Jewish time track. If he would
> > have been persecuted for his religion or race for centuries after
> > centuries, he could never work for p$ychs or have friends with Nazi
> > connections. Never. He also would not go after SCN or other religion.
> > He also would order porn supplements as this is against the Jewish
> > religion. Ask a rabbi.
> >
> >
> > -- Barbara Schwarz
>
> I

Truth hurt, doesn't it? I think that Dave creates a bad reputation for
other, real Jews.

Also, I don't think I need to listen to somebody, who calles himself a
slave. Mind your own threads.


http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

[Barbara Schwarz]

laraine schrieb:

> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > In my book, a person who supports p$ychiatry and takes money from it,
> > isn't a Jew.
>
> On the other hand, don't forget that (Austrian)
> Freud, who can certainly be called one of the
> first important modern psychiatrists, was Jewish.
> Psychiatry has done a lot of good for people,
> and of course, like anything else, it can be
> abused. Perhaps those students would actually
> be helped by psychology or psychiatry or group
> therapy--it doesn't sound like they are getting any
> of that.
>
> C.

Go there: www.cchr.com for facts. I saw p$ychs in action, they didn't
heal anybody.
They are not even sure themselves what they are doing. P$ychiatry is no
science and can be traced back to barbers and butchers.

P$ychs were also behind the Nazis.

Criminal charges against offenders are much better than drugs under
which offenders commit new crimes.


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Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

[Barbara Schwarz]

Anonymous schrieb:

> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 21:04:40 GMT, "Paul F. Johnson"
> > wrote:
>
> >Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> >
> >> Look what I found here, this article. The CMU creeps me out and you,
> >> Jewish or not, should be outraged too.
> >
> >What the hell is an "alledged Jew"?
>
> A Jewish Nazi collaborator. Google it.
>
> --The Voice

Thanks for educating, PFJ. He really asks for it.

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

[SirLagsAlot]

Babbles talking to herself again

sock puppets dont count

[Eldon]

SirLagsAlot wrote:
> Babbles talking to herself again

Well, Barbara compensates in verbosity for what she lacks in sanity.
She's also an ambulatory example of how Scientology can either provide
a placebo or turn you away from legitimate medical care. I'm frankly
amazed at her endurance.

Another example is -- or rather was -- Ellie Perkins. Oh, and Lisa
McPherson. Need I go further down the list?
>
> sock puppets dont count

People driven insane or more insane by Scientology definitely do count.
Some people regain their sanity, but if they don't, the abyss is right
there. It's part of the plan.

[Steve Foley[_1_]]

"Barbara Schwarz" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> antisectes wrote:
> > How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
> >
> > r
>
> Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel,

Is "Ignorant Slut" more fitting?

[Crozo]

Oh, I believe it is, Steve. Barbara has really gone off the deep end
on this one. Eh, fecal consumer? The only person around here that is
even remotely acting like a Nazi is you, parker and your host of OSA
friends. You can't make any actual arguments so you have attack people
with possibly the most asinine accusations I have ever seen. Why is it
necessary to do this to defend Scientology? Is Scientology not able to
support itself?


Steve Foley wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> >
> > antisectes wrote:
> > > How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
> > >
> > > r
> >
> > Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel,
>
> Is "Ignorant Slut" more fitting?

[Steve Foley[_1_]]

"Crozo" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> You can't make any actual arguments so you have attack people
> with possibly the most asinine accusations I have ever seen.

Check the charter for this group. You wanna post off topic drivel, I'll
attack it any way I choose.

FOAD.

[Crozo]

No. Steve, I was referring to Barbara, not you.

Steve Foley wrote:
> "Crozo" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > You can't make any actual arguments so you have attack people
> > with possibly the most asinine accusations I have ever seen.
>
> Check the charter for this group. You wanna post off topic drivel, I'll
> attack it any way I choose.
>
> FOAD.

[Paul F. Johnson]

> See, Paul Babbles Johnson, now you learned something from my book.

Yeah - you need a new book. I would recommend one which will free it from
the chains the cult has slung around it.
--
"Der einzige Weg, Leute zu kontrollieren ist sie anzulügen" - L. Ron "Ich
kann kein Science-Fiction schreiben" Hubbard; Lügner, Betrüger, Fixer und
Wohltäter zu niemandem

[Miriam Cohen]

Steve Foley wrote:
> "Barbara Schwarz" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
>
>>antisectes wrote:
>>
>>>How can a nazie barbie like you work for a nazi cult?
>>>
>>>r
>>
>>Calling me a Nazi, is Nazi-libel,
>
>
> Is "Ignorant Slut" more fitting?

From her poor wording I thought she was saying that comparing her to
Nazis was insulting to Nazis. :)

--
L'Chaim

Miriam

In the beginning
the Word already was.

[Barbara Schwarz]

SirLagsAlot schrieb:

> Babbles talking to herself again
>
> sock puppets dont count

1) Barbzzz Graham is Babbles
2) SirLagsALot intelligence is the sock puppet of Randall Gutierez a
poster of swastikas and a poster of threads like: How to kill
Scientologists
3) I am not the Voice
4) These guys can't do any computer IP searches
5) P$ychiatric drugs (or other drugs) apparenty don't help against
persecution mania.

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

U.S. Congress sees Wikipedia as foul mud. We sure need laws against the
Wikipiggi cult.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635203427,00.html

>

[Barbara Schwarz]

Crozo schrieb:

> No. Steve, I was referring to Barbara, not you.


You are so off the charts that you can't even express yourself without
to be misunderstood. Get off the hemp or whatever makes you this way,
Bozo. You really sound like a toilet. Flush.

http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

U.S. Congress sees Wikipedia as foul mud. We sure need laws against the
Wikipiggi cult.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635203427,00.html

>
>
> Steve Foley wrote:
> > "Crozo" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > You can't make any actual arguments so you have attack people
> > > with possibly the most asinine accusations I have ever seen.
> >
> > Check the charter for this group. You wanna post off topic drivel, I'll
> > attack it any way I choose.
> >
> > FOAD.

[Barbara Schwarz]

Miriam Cohen schrieb:

> Steve

Actually, I happen to know that the Nazis in Germany took Jewish ID's
when the allies came and freed the Jews to avoid prosecution. So, it is
nothing new that Nazis use Jewish names.

In other word "Miriam", real Jews wouldn't attack me and howl with the
Nazis.

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Barbara Schwarz
--

Wikipedia (Wikipiggi), the brain child of porn search engine CEO Jimbo
Wales has all the characteristics of a destructive cult: Wikipiggists
(editors, admins, board, scribblers) work for free and are above the
law. They harass, defame, attack, lie, smear, conspire, misinform,
manipulate and violate the privacy of good people. Anybody, who doesn't
agree with the Wikipiggists is being blocked and banned. You are not
allowed to cite your constitutional rights as they ban you for that.
There is no justice or free speech within the Wikipiggi cult. I learned
that the average age of a Wikipiggist (who hide their own identity as
they don't want that anybody does to them what they do to others) is
only 17 years old, and besides unripe minds, you better expect criminal
histories. However, Jimbo Wales is older, and he should call his
corrupt kindergarden cult to apply decency, the laws and leave people
alone.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/18a388c8bfa55125?hl=de&

U.S. Congress sees Wikipedia as foul mud. We sure need laws against the
Wikipiggi cult.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,635203427,00.html

[Barbara Schwarz]

Eldon schrieb:

> SirLagsAlot wrote:
> > B
Subject: Harry Palmer (Avatar) versus Eldon Braun ( April 9, 2002)
Message-ID: >

One doesn't has to waste more time than posting this about Eldon Braun
(fugitive of American justice). He is too disturbed to waste much time
with him.


IN THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS


FOR THE ELEVENTH CIRCUIT


No. 01-14511

D. C. Docket No. 00-01662 CV-ORL-31J

HARRY PALMER,

STAR'S EDGE, INC.,

Plaintiffs-Appellants,


versus

ELDON BRAUN,

Defendant-Appellee.

Appeal from the United States District Court


for the Middle District of Florida


(April 9, 2002)

Before TJOFLAT and COX, Circuit Judges, and HANCOCK (1), District
Judge.

COX, Circuit Judge: Harry Palmer, the owner of Star's Edge, Inc., and
the
creator of a self-help course called Avatar, sought a preliminary
injunction
against Eldon Braun, alleging that Braun's book, The Source Course,
infringed
Palmer's copyright in the Avatar Course materials. The district court
denied
the request for a preliminary injunction after determining that Palmer
was
unlikely to succeed on the merits of his claim. Because the district
court did
not abuse its discretion, we affirm.

I. FACTS

A. HARRY PALMER & THE AVATAR COURSE

Palmer is an educational psychologist. For many years, he was a member
of the
Church of Scientology and aided members of the Church in the
exploration of
their consciousness. Palmer left the Church in 1982 and, in 1986,
embarked on a
personal regimen of experimental research, seeking to explore the
functioning
of his own consciousness. Palmer's research led him to the conclusion
that
beliefs are the key to everything in the universe.

This insight, combined with Palmer's background in educational
psychology, led
Palmer to develop an educational course in which students might explore
their
own consciousness. He calls his course Avatar, from a word for
incarnated
deities, and it is premised on the idea that a person's beliefs create
his
reality. The Avatar Course seeks to inform its students of the
existence of
these beliefs and to teach them how to create or "discreate" those
beliefs as
necessary.

The Avatar Course is taught by trained and licensed "Masters" in three
sections. Section I is a two-day seminar that introduces the Avatar
Course
using Resurfacing: Techniques for Exploring Consciousness, a 264-page
manual
that describes the basis of exploring the consciousness. Resurfacing is
available to the general public.

After completing Section I, students are encouraged to take Sections II
and
III. Section II uses The Exercises, a 39-page manual that teaches
students to
reconnect with their existence and experience the world directly. The
key
exercises in Section II rely on a collection of short sentences
designed to
allow a student to control his beliefs. Once a student gains control of
his
beliefs, he moves on to Section III, The Procedures. In this section,
students
learn, through meditation, to become "source," or "the seat of
consciousness at
the center of the universe, creating everything outside through
conscious
intent." (R.2-60-Ex. 11 at 5.) When a person is "at source," he has
achieved
the enlightenment that the Avatar Course offers and is in control of
his
reality. Section III is taught with a 77-page manual.

The manuals used in Section II and III are kept confidential. Students
must
sign a confidentiality agreement prior to taking the course and must
return the
materials when the course ends. Confidentiality ensures both that the
course is
administered with the help of a trained Master and that these sections,
which
cost $500 and $1500 respectively to attend, maintain their commercial
value.

Once Sections II and III are completed, students may take additional
sections
to elevate themselves in the Avatar hierarchy. Section IV teaches
students to
become Masters, so that they may teach the course to others. Section V
is the
Wizards Course, which endows its graduates with the ability to
transform
civilization.

B. ELDON BRAUN & THE SOURCE COURSE

Braun began the Avatar Course in 1987, after hearing Palmer lecture
about it.
Also a former Scientologist, Braun believed that Palmer's course would
teach
him what Scientology did not. He signed up with Palmer, took the Avatar
Course,
and became an Avatar Master in 1989. As part of his mastery, he signed
a
license agreement and a confidentiality agreement. The confidentiality
agreement required Braun to keep the Avatar Course materials secret and
to
return the materials upon request. In 1991, Braun had a disagreement
with
Palmer over the payment of royalties. As a result, Braun's license was
suspended, and Star's Edge asked Braun to return his Avatar Course
materials.
Braun did not return the materials.

After his break with Palmer, Braun continued to believe in the power of
Avatar
but disliked Palmer's control of it. With these dual motivations, Braun
undertook a campaign to discredit Palmer and undermine his control of
Avatar.
As part of his effort, Braun published an article on the internet
entitled "The
Wiz of Orlando." (2) This article relates both Braun's involvement with
Avatar
and Palmer's control over the organization. To supplement his
journalistic
efforts, Braun also sought to develop an alternative course of
self-discovery
that would reveal the secrets of the Avatar Course and draw potential
customers
away from Palmer.

Braun's alternative course is called The Source Course. The title is
drawn from
the Avatar Course's ambition of leaving its graduates "at source." The
Source
Course approaches consciousness the same way that the Avatar Course
does, and
Braun billed it alternatively as "an analog of the Avatar Course"
(R.2-60-Ex.15
at 1), "a refresher" for the Avatar Course (R.2-60-Ex. 28), "a
take-home
manual" for graduates of the Avatar Course (R.2-60-Ex. 21 at 1), and
the
"equivalent" of the Avatar Course materials (R.4 at 73). Unlike the
Avatar
Course materials, whose secrecy is jealously guarded, The Source Course
is
intended to be available to the general public, and Braun even offered
it for
free to those who could not afford it.

Braun began offering The Source Course to the public on November 9,
2000. On
November 20, Palmer and Star's Edge sent Braun a letter claiming that
The
Source Course infringed their copyright in the Avatar Course materials
and
demanding that Braun cease and desist the infringement. Braun refused,
and
Palmer and Star's Edge filed suit. (3)

Though it filed suit in December 2000, Palmer and Star's Edge did not
move for
a preliminary injunction until March 9, 2001. They asked for a
preliminary
injunction on the basis of their claims for libel, unfair competition,
and
trademark and copyright infringement. Because of scheduling conflicts,
the
district court did not hold a hearing on the motion until June 28,
2001.

At the hearing, Palmer and Star's Edge argued for the injunction only
on the
basis of their unfair competition claim and their copyright and
trademark
infringement claims. The district court denied the request for a
preliminary
injunction on the copyright-infringement claim. It found that The
Source Course
was not substantially similar to the Avatar Course materials and that
Palmer
was thus unlikely to succeed on his copyright-infringement claim. On
appeal,
Palmer and Star's Edge ask us to review this ruling on the
copyright-infringement claim. We enjoined publication of The Source
Course
pending this appeal.

II. ISSUE ON APPEAL & STANDARD OF REVIEW

The only issue on this appeal is whether the district court erred by
failing to
preliminarily enjoin Braun's publication of The Source Course. The
grant or
denial of a preliminary injunction is within the sound discretion of
the
district court and will not be disturbed absent a clear abuse of
discretion.
See Siegel v. Lepore, 234 F.3d 1163, 1178 (11th Cir. 2000) (en banc);
Cafe 207,
Inc. v. St. Johns County, 989 F.2d 1136, 1137 (11th Cir. 1993); Revette
v.
Int'l Ass'n of Bridge, Structural & Ornamental Iron Workers, 740 F.2d
892, 893
(11th Cir. 1984).

III. DISCUSSION

Palmer is not entitled to a preliminary injunction unless he
establishes each
of the following four prerequisites: (1) a substantial likelihood of
success on
the merits; (2) a substantial threat of irreparable injury; (3) that
the
threatened injury to the plaintiff outweighs the potential harm to the
defendant; and (4) that the injunction will not disserve the public
interest.
See Suntrust Bank v. Houghton Mifflin Co., 268 F.3d 1257, 1265 (11th
Cir.
2001). The district court found that Palmer did not establish a
substantial
likelihood of success on the merits of his copyright claim and, without
considering the remaining prerequisites, denied the request for a
preliminary
injunction. Palmer contends that he did, in fact, show a substantial
likelihood
of success on his copyright-infringement claim.

A. PRIMA-FACIE COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT

To establish a prima-facie case of copyright infringement, Palmer must
show (1)
that he owns a valid copyright in the Avatar Course materials and (2)
that
Braun copied original elements of the Avatar Course materials in The
Source
Course. See Suntrust Bank, 268 F.3d at 1265-66. Palmer submitted
copyright
registration certificates to the district court, and Braun does not
dispute the
validity of Palmer's copyright. Palmer, then, owns a valid copyright,
satisfying step one.

To satisfy step two, Palmer must first show that The Source Course is
"substantially similar" to the Avatar Course. Two works are
substantially
similar if "an average lay observer would recognize the alleged copy as
having
been appropriated from the copyrighted work." Leigh v. Warner Bros.,
212 F.3d
1210, 1214 (11th Cir. 2000) (quoting Original Appalachian Artworks,
Inc. v. Toy
Loft, Inc., 684 F.2d 821, 829 (11th Cir. 1982)). Both literal and
nonliteral
similarities can warrant a finding of substantial similarity. See
Bateman v.
Mnemonics, Inc., 79 F.3d 1532, 1543-44 n.25 (11th Cir. 1996).

Literal similarity is the verbatim copying of a copyrighted work. In
many
cases, an allegedly infringing work will evince "fragmented literal
similarity." See generally 4 Melville B. Nimmer & David Nimmer, Nimmer
on
Copyright ? 13.03[A][2] (2001). In other words, the work may copy only
a small
part of the copyrighted work but do so word-for-word. If this
fragmented copy
is important to the copyrighted work, and of sufficient quantity, then
it may
support a finding of substantial similarity.

Nonliteral similarity is more difficult to define. A work may be deemed
substantially similar to another work when it evinces what Nimmer calls
"comprehensive nonliteral similarity." See generally 4 Nimmer & Nimmer,
supra,
? 13.03[A][1]; Bateman, 79 F.3d at 1543 n.25. This comprehensive
nonliteral
similarity is evident where "the fundamental essence or structure of
one work
is duplicated in another." 4 Nimmer & Nimmer, supra, ? 13.03[A][1], at
13-29.

Even if Palmer successfully shows substantial similarity, he must also
demonstrate that The Source Course borrowed "original elements" of the
Avatar
Course materials. "Original elements" include only original expression,
since
copyright protection does not extend to ideas, procedures, processes,
or
systems, regardless of their originality. See 17 U.S.C. ? 102(b)
(1996);
Suntrust Bank, 268 F.3d at 1266; Leigh, 212 F.3d at 1214. Even original
expression will be unprotected if it can be accurately characterized as
an
idea, procedure, process, or system. See Warren Publ'g, Inc. v.
Microdos Data
Corp., 115 F.3d 1509, 1514 n.13 (11th Cir. 1997) (en banc). But, in
many cases,
the line between idea and expression is difficult to draw: "Decisions
must
therefore inevitably be ad hoc." Peter Pan Fabrics, Inc. v. Martin
Weiner
Corp., 274 F.2d 487, 489 (2d Cir. 1960). Moreover, in certain cases,
there are
so few ways of expressing an idea that the idea and its expression
merge. Under
the so-called "merger doctrine," these few expressions do not receive
copyright
protection, since protection of the expressions would thus extend
protection to
the idea itself. See Warren Publ'g, 115 F.3d at 1518 n.27.

Palmer contends that The Source Course is substantially similar to the
Avatar
Course and that the district court's contrary determination was in
error. Braun
argues that, for the most part, he copied only Palmer's ideas and
exercises,
not his expression. He also asserts that, in the few instances where he
did
copy Palmer's expression, the simple phrases he copied are covered by
the
merger doctrine. Therefore, according to Braun, while the works may be
substantially similar, Palmer's copyright did not protect the portions
of the
Avatar Course materials that Braun copied. We consider each contention
in turn.

B. THE AVATAR COURSE MATERIALS & THE SOURCE COURSE

A comparison of the works involved in this case shows that The Source
Course is
not an exact replica of the Avatar Course materials. But, at the
preliminary
injunction hearing, Palmer presented a chart to the court indicating
obvious
similarities between the works. We must evaluate these similarities to
determine whether an average lay observer would recognize that The
Source
Course was appropriated from the Avatar Course materials.

The animating idea behind the Avatar Course is that people's beliefs
can alter
how they experience and understand their lives. This idea is not new;
as the
district court pointed out, it has been "pondered, discussed, expounded
upon,
and written about since time immemorial." (R.3-68 at 15.) Even if the
idea were
new, it could not, of course, be protected by copyright. So, while it
is clear
that The Source Course is motivated by Palmer's idea, the question is
whether
The Source Course expresses this idea in a way that infringes on
original
expression of the same idea in the Avatar Course materials.

The Avatar Course transforms the idea into a series of exercises that
allow a
person, not only to understand the idea intellectually, but to make
practical
use of the idea. The structure of the Avatar Course, and the exercises
associated with it, are repeated, with only slight variations, in The
Source
Course.

1. Section II

Section II of the Avatar Course teaches students "to reconnect with an
experiential awareness of your own existence" through a series of
exercises.
(R.4-Ex. 35 at ii.) In the final exercises of this section, students
are taught
to "assume control" of their beliefs. (R.4-Ex. 35 at 32 & 35.) Students
begin
the exercise by stating out loud a short phrase from one of two lists
in the
materials, thirty-one phrases in all. They are instructed to recognize
any
associations that arise in their minds as they say the phrase. For
instance, a
student might say, from the list, "I have everything I need," and then
recognize exceptions that pop into his head, such as "except for a new
pair of
shoes." The student is then taught to repeat, exaggerate, and eliminate
this
association. A student demonstrates control, and thus completes the
exercise,
when he can say all of the phrases on the two lists without any
associations.
The student is then invited to create his own phrases and eliminate any
associations he may have with them.

The Source Course, whose Section II is entitled "Experiencing Reality,"
closes
with a similar exercise. (R.4-Ex. 37 at 33.) A student is told to state
out
loud a short phrase from one of three lists, thirty-four phrases in
all. If any
associations arise, the student is told to repeat, exaggerate, and
eliminate
them. The exercise is complete when the student can say all of the
phrases on
the list without associations. Once he has completed the exercise, the
student
is invited to create his own phrases.

These exercises are themselves similar, but the most damning similarity
is
evident from a comparison of the suggested phrases. In his list, Braun
uses
many of the phrases that Palmer uses:

The Avatar Course The Source Course

I am happy to be me. I'm happy being who I am.

I am right here. I am right here.

I am me. I am just me.

I am source. I'm the source of it all.

I don't know where I am. I don't know where I am.

I feel like a victim. I feel like a victim.

I am not a victim. I am not a victim.

The past doesn't exist. My past doesn't exist.

Everything I see is illusion. Everything I see is illusion.

What I see is real. Everything I see is real.

I create what I experience. I own what I experience.

I have everything I need. I have what I need.

My mind is still. My mind is quiet.

I am relaxed. I am relaxed.

I create it all. I create everything.

(R.4-Ex. 35 at 34 & 37.) (R.4-Ex. 37 at 34.)

Out of the thirty-plus phrases chosen for each of these exercises,
fifteen of
the phrases are identical or almost identical.

2. Section III

Both works exhibit similarity in their third sections as well. Section
III of
the Avatar Course teaches students "a simple and effective technique
for
managing beliefs" called the "Creation Handling Procedure" ("CHP").
(R.4-Ex. 36
at ii.) The CHP allows students to dissolve unwanted thought forms in
six easy
steps. Section III of The Source Course, entitled "Changing Your Own
Reality,"
teaches the "Thought Dissolving Process" ("TDP"). (R.4-Ex. 37 at
37-51.) While
the TDP takes a lengthy eight steps to achieve the same results, the
process is
the same and is described in similar words. For instance, step one in
the
Creation Handling Procedure asks students to "[i]dentify with and
experience"
the thought form by "merg[ing] with [it] and feel[ing] how it feels."
(R.4-Ex.
36 at 4.) In the Thought Dissolving Process, step one asks students to
"[g]rok"
the thought form. (R.4-Ex. 37 at 42.) "Grok" is a verb drawn from
Robert
Heinlich's Stranger in a Strange Land and is defined in the Oxford
English
Dictionary as "[t]o understand intuitively or by empathy, to establish
rapport
with." 6 Oxford English Dictionary 864 (2d ed. 1989).

The remaining steps in these processes are also explained in similar
language.
Step two in CHP asks students to "[d]efine the outermost limits" of the
thought
form (R.4-Ex. 36 at 4); TDP instructs students to "[e]xpand to its
outer edges"
(R.4-Ex. 37 at 42). CHP's step three is "[l]abel it without judgment"
(R.4-Ex.
36 at 5); TDP's is "[o]bserve it without filters" (R.4-Ex. 37 at 43).
In step
four of CHP, students are told to "[d]isassociate from the creation" by
saying,
"This is not-I. This is my creation." (R.4-Ex. 36 at 6); TDP student's
are told
in step four to "[s]ay to yourself, 'This isn't me. It's something I
created.'"
(R.4-Ex. 37 at 43). Step five of CHP tells students to "[d]iscreate the
creation" by halting "an existing flow of energy" as one would "turn
off a
light at the switch" (R.4-Ex. 36 at 6); step five of TDP tells students
to
"[d]ecide to drop it, or let it dissolve" by "switch[ing] off its
energizing
force" (R.4-Ex. 37 at 43). CHP, in step six, asks students to "[c]reate
what
you prefer" and use CHP to eliminate any unwanted associations in the
new
creation. (R.4-Ex. 36 at 6.) TDP tells students, in step seven, to
"[d]ecide
what, if anything, to put in its place" and, in step eight, to "[s]ee
if any
'Yeah, buts' arise." (R.4-Ex. 37 at 43.) If "Yeah, buts," or unwanted
associations, do arise, TDP instructs students to "use the TDP on them
individually" (R.4-Ex. 37 at 43).

While both works suggest that this procedure may be used on any and all
beliefs, they both instruct students to focus the procedure on similar
beliefs.
Section III of the Avatar Course materials first directs students to
focus on
thoughts about their bodies. It then focuses on beliefs about
limitations,
identities, and persistent beliefs. For really persistent beliefs, the
CHP
teaches students to acknowledge that "It's all right to feel like
this."
(R.4-Ex. 36 at 66.) Finally, students are directed toward an
understanding of
the "collective consciousness" (R.4-Ex. 36 at 67-69).

The Source Course takes its students on a similar journey. It focuses
the TDP
on the body, then on identities, then on doubts, and finally on
persistent
beliefs. When confronted with really persistent beliefs, students are
told to
affirm that "It's OK to feel the way I do." (R.4-Ex. 37 at 50.) The
Source
Course then suggests that the TDP be used on others' consciousness.

And the similarities do not end there. Throughout The Source Course,
Braun
discusses Palmer's ideas and exercises in similar terms. Where Palmer
calls
identities "suits of clothes" (R.4-Ex. 4 at 116), Braun calls them
"disguises"
(R.4-Ex. 37 at 15). When Palmer asks students to "[s]elect a quiet,
comfortable
space" for meditation on body image (R.4-Ex. 36 at 30), Braun directs
them to
"[j]ust lie down comfortably in a pleasant place where you won't be
interrupted" (R.4-Ex. 37 at 45). Palmer calls persistent beliefs "core
creations" (R.4-Ex. 36 at 60); Braun calls them "core issues" (R.4-Ex.
37 at
50).

C. COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT?

Contrary to the district court's finding, there are substantial
similarities
between the Avatar Course and The Source Course, both literal and
nonliteral.
But similarity is not enough. Palmer must also show that these
similarities
infringed upon his copyrightable expression.

The first type of identifiable similarity is of the nonliteral variety.
Braun
organizes The Source Course in three sections. In Section I, he
introduces the
same idea of consciousness that Palmer introduces in Section I of the
Avatar
Course. He then, in Section II, translates this idea into exercises,
and the
exercises Braun chooses are the same exercises that Palmer describes in
Section
II of the Avatar Course. Once the student achieves the proper results,
the same
results that Palmer's students achieve, Braun then moves them along to
Section
III. In Section III, Braun's students learn a meditation technique that
is
identical to the meditation technique described in Section III of the
Avatar
Course. To describe the meditation process, Braun uses labels and
descriptions
that are similar to Palmer's labels and descriptions. Once this
technique is
mastered, Braun instructs his students to focus the technique on areas
of their
life that are identical to the areas that Palmer suggests to his
students.

Braun's exercises are virtually identical to Palmer's exercises, and a
layman
might conclude that The Source Course was appropriated from the Avatar
Course.
However, Braun's appropriation is actionable only if he copied Palmer's
expression, not his ideas, procedures, processes, and systems. See 17
U.S.C. ?
102(b) (1996). Palmer's exercises, while undoubtedly the product of
much time
and effort, are, at bottom, simply a process for achieving increased
consciousness. Such processes, even if original, cannot be protected by
copyright.

But Palmer's expression is protected by copyright. On occasion, Braun's
descriptions of the exercises come dangerously close to Palmer's
descriptions
of the exercises. These descriptions might be accurately characterized
as
processes, but they might not, and Palmer may ultimately show that, by
paraphrasing these descriptions, Braun infringed on protected
expression. In
this case, as in many copyright cases, the line between process and
expression
is not easily drawn, and this difficult issue must be resolved on the
totality
of the facts.

The examples of literal similarity also present some thorny issues.
Braun
copied fifteen sentences from the Avatar Course materials. The district
court
found that these fifteen sentences represent de minimis infringement.
But,
while fifteen sentences is only a fraction of the number of sentences
in
Braun's 53-page work, these sentences must be viewed in context. Braun
uses
these sentences as part of the same exercise for which Palmer uses
them. The
Source Course introduces this exercise in the same part of the course
as the
Avatar Course. In both courses, students learn, by concentrating on
these
particular sentences, how to control their beliefs. The completion of
this
exercise allows students to move on to the meditation exercise in
Section III,
which, in both courses, is the penultimate exercise before
enlightenment. Braun
does not inadvertently sprinkle his work with Palmer's sentences;
instead, he
uses the same sentences in the same exercise as Palmer and intends to
achieve
the same results with them. This use is not de minimis.

However, Braun argues that these sentences are so simple in structure
and
content that they are covered by the merger doctrine. On their face,
these
sentences, taken individually, seem to be of the type embraced by the
merger
doctrine. But we must bear in mind that these phrases are part of an
exercise
whose ostensible purpose is to teach mental control. The purpose of the
exercise might be served by any phrases, regardless of their content.
In such a
case, Palmer's selection of certain sentences may be protected by
copyright,
even though the sentences themselves are covered by the merger
doctrine. (4)
While the district court did not discuss the merger issue, we believe
that it
raises difficult questions that must be addressed.

While the district court erred by finding that The Source Course is not
similar
to the Avatar Course, this case presents other difficult questions,
regarding
the idea-expression dichotomy and the merger doctrine, that may
ultimately
prevent Palmer from succeeding on his copyright-infringement claim. We
express
no opinion on how these issues will finally be resolved. See Cafe 207,
Inc. v.
St. Johns County, 989 F.2d 1136, 1137 (11th Cir. 1993). We hold only
that the
district court did not abuse its discretion by denying a preliminary
injunction
on the basis that Palmer did not show a substantial likelihood of
success on
the merits of his claim.

IV. CONCLUSION

The district court did not abuse its discretion by concluding that
Palmer was
unlikely to succeed on the merits of his copyright-infringement claim.
Therefore, the district court's denial of Palmer's request for a
preliminary
injunction is affirmed.

AFFIRMED. (5)


FOOTNOTES


*. Honorable James H. Hancock, U.S. District Judge for the Northern
District of
Alabama, sitting by designation.

[SirLagsAlot]

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>
> SirLagsAlot schrieb:
>
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> >
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>
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> Scientologists
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>
> http://www.thunderstar.net/~schwarz/lrh/fbidocs.html
> Barbara Schwarz
> --
>
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[Ball of Fluff]

Anonymous wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:14:05 -0700, barbz > wrote:
>
> >Barbara Schwarz wrote:
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> >>>
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> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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>
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>
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>
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