Flying Schools in the U.S.

[[email protected]]

Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
(15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
accomodation.


Thanx a lot guys

[Killol]

well... it ain't gonna be that easy...

I'll say start looking for some flying club sites and figure out how
much they cost and starting comparing...

let me know if you find something.

thanks...



wrote:
> Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
> have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
> details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
> international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
> per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
> (15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
> accomodation.
>
>
> Thanx a lot guys

[Skylune[_2_]]

wrote:
> Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
> have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
> details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
> international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
> per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
> (15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
> accomodation.
>
>
> Thanx a lot guys

Just go to the AOPA website. They are happy to hook up suckers with
flight schools that will milk you for all you got. And then, you can
be a marginally competent (though fully legal!) pilot!

[Jay Honeck]

> Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
> have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
> details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
> international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
> per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
> (15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
> accomodation.

I'm sorry I don't know the costs, but we just had a French guy come
stay with us for 3 months while he went through the flight school here
in Iowa City, IA. We cut him a good lodging deal, in the interest of
aviation! :-)

If you're interested, I can get you their contact info.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bob Gardner]

There are no FAA approved flying clubs in the US. "Flying club" has a
different meaning here in the states than it does overseas. You are looking
for a Part 141 flight school. Almost all of them have complete information
on how international students are handled. Lay hands on any US flying
magazine (or do a web search on "approved schools" and you will find what
you need.

Bob Gardner

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> Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
> have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
> details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
> international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
> per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
> (15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
> accomodation.
>
>
> Thanx a lot guys
>

[kontiki]

Skylune wrote:
>
> Just go to the AOPA website. They are happy to hook up suckers with
> flight schools that will milk you for all you got. And then, you can
> be a marginally competent (though fully legal!) pilot!
>

I have discovered that incompetent people are usually malcontents like yourself.
As a flight instructor I have discovered that these sorts of people are
the ones that expect to be spoon fed and are usually weeded out early on
in training.

[[email protected]]

Hello...

You might want to try www.flytfc.com they are on the east coast of
Canada and you can do your float rating there too. Small school. I
know they have a guy from India there now and aparantly 4 more coming.
Great airport too.... every type of approach... and barely any
traffic.

-Dico


wrote:
> Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
> have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
> details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
> international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
> per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
> (15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
> accomodation.
>
>
> Thanx a lot guys

[Marty Shapiro]

wrote in
oups.com:

> Hey guys i'm an indian student who wants to become a pilot but i don't
> have much info about flying clubs in the US. Please send me some
> details about FAA approved flying clubs preferably the ones that help
> international students get student visas. Please include in it the cost
> per hour single engine and multi engine and overall cost for 200 hrs
> (15 hrs muti engine and 5 hrs multi on simulator) and cost of
> accomodation.
>
>
> Thanx a lot guys
>
>

Try American School of Aviation at Castle (KMER) in A****er,
California. They are active with foreign students. The founder of the
school is from India. Web site is http://www.iflyasa.com/

They have a special flight training program for students from India.
Details at http://www.iflyasa.com/sftpindia.html

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

[Skylune[_2_]]

kontiki wrote:
> Skylune wrote:
> >
> > Just go to the AOPA website. They are happy to hook up suckers with
> > flight schools that will milk you for all you got. And then, you can
> > be a marginally competent (though fully legal!) pilot!
> >
>
> I have discovered that incompetent people are usually malcontents like yourself.
> As a flight instructor I have discovered that these sorts of people are
> the ones that expect to be spoon fed and are usually weeded out early on
> in training.

Actually, I quit training (with several other "students" at a National
Chain due to being fed a bill of goods about cost, efficacy of VFR
flying, etc.) They sell it like anyone can do it (which is true).
But, in my mind, to be safe, you need to practice much more than most
people have time for. They don't tell you that part. Sure, you can
get your PPL, and fly a few hours a year, and be legal. That is wild.

Plus, as I mentioned previously, the CFI showed up one day distinctly
smelling of alcohol. That did it for me. Now, I fly in the right
seat, and regulary witness (and hear my pilot friend) stupid pilot
tricks. There are very many nonqualified, licensed, legal pilots
flying around, as you know.

[ktbr]

Skylune wrote:

> Actually, I quit training (with several other "students" at a National
> Chain due to being fed a bill of goods about cost, efficacy of VFR
> flying, etc.) They sell it like anyone can do it (which is true).
> But, in my mind, to be safe, you need to practice much more than most
> people have time for. They don't tell you that part.
>
Becoming competent at *anything* usually requires effort above and
beyond the basic spoon-feeding. That is why there are relatively few
real "experts" in most fields of endeavor. FLying is no different,
other than the fact that your onwn stupidity or laziness can get
you killed more easily than some other types of activites... or
at lease garner more spectacular headlines.

> Sure, you can get your PPL, and fly a few hours a year, and be legal.
> That is wild.

So I guess you would prefer more of the big brother approach whereby
you might have to pass a flight check evey 30 days or something? Nice...
that would make flying really enjoyable and inexpensive for people.

Personally I feel that Darwin's theory does a nice job of insuring
that competency is fairly high in Aviation... at least that's been
my experience. I don;t know about where you live....
>
> Plus, as I mentioned previously, the CFI showed up one day distinctly
> smelling of alcohol. That did it for me.

Okay... uh, you had one bad CFI so the whole Aviation community
sucks and you gave up. Let me tell you there are less than ideal
people in all walks of society... doctors, laywers, politicians...
even in your precious FAA.

> Now, I fly in the right
> seat, and regulary witness (and hear my pilot friend) stupid pilot
> tricks. There are very many nonqualified, licensed, legal pilots
> flying around, as you know.
>

Sound like you need to start picking some better friends.
The overwhelming majority of pilots I know make an effort
to be safe and follow the rules and avoid "stupid pilot tricks".
Many own airplanes and put a lot of money and time into them.

Like I said Lune, you might consider hooking up with a
different circle of friends.

[Steve Foley[_1_]]

"ktbr" > wrote in message
...


> Like I said Lune, you might consider hooking up with a
> different circle of friends.

With an attitude like his, do you think he really has a choice?

[Skylune[_2_]]

ktbr wrote:
> Skylune wrote:
>
> > Actually, I quit training (with several other "students" at a National
> > Chain due to being fed a bill of goods about cost, efficacy of VFR
> > flying, etc.) They sell it like anyone can do it (which is true).
> > But, in my mind, to be safe, you need to practice much more than most
> > people have time for. They don't tell you that part.
> >
> Becoming competent at *anything* usually requires effort above and
> beyond the basic spoon-feeding. That is why there are relatively few
> real "experts" in most fields of endeavor. FLying is no different,
> other than the fact that your onwn stupidity or laziness can get
> you killed more easily than some other types of activites... or
> at lease garner more spectacular headlines.
>
> > Sure, you can get your PPL, and fly a few hours a year, and be legal.
> > That is wild.
>
> So I guess you would prefer more of the big brother approach whereby
> you might have to pass a flight check evey 30 days or something? Nice...
> that would make flying really enjoyable and inexpensive for people.
>
> Personally I feel that Darwin's theory does a nice job of insuring
> that competency is fairly high in Aviation... at least that's been
> my experience. I don;t know about where you live....
> >
> > Plus, as I mentioned previously, the CFI showed up one day distinctly
> > smelling of alcohol. That did it for me.
>
> Okay... uh, you had one bad CFI so the whole Aviation community
> sucks and you gave up. Let me tell you there are less than ideal
> people in all walks of society... doctors, laywers, politicians...
> even in your precious FAA.
>
> > Now, I fly in the right
> > seat, and regulary witness (and hear my pilot friend) stupid pilot
> > tricks. There are very many nonqualified, licensed, legal pilots
> > flying around, as you know.
> >
>
> Sound like you need to start picking some better friends.
> The overwhelming majority of pilots I know make an effort
> to be safe and follow the rules and avoid "stupid pilot tricks".
> Many own airplanes and put a lot of money and time into them.
>
> Like I said Lune, you might consider hooking up with a
> different circle of friends.

"Precious FAA" That is priceless. They are the ones busy doling out
grants to expand aviation. They are a huge part of the problem. And
yes, I believe standards for licensing/testing need to be much more
stringent. Now, you can waltz in with a drivers license as "proof" of
medical fitness, do 20 hours, and fly an LSA. I think this is a joke
and a disaster waiting to happen, especially if the VLJs really
mutliply, and you have many types of planes/jets with pilots of varying
experience in traffic patterns. There will be more slammings, for sure.

[Kingfish]

Skylune wrote:
> "Precious FAA" That is priceless. They are the ones busy doling out
> grants to expand aviation. They are a huge part of the problem.

Hell, we actually agree on something, although I think for differing
reasons

>And yes, I believe standards for licensing/testing need to be much more
> stringent. Now, you can waltz in with a drivers license as "proof" of
> medical fitness, do 20 hours, and fly an LSA.

Yeah, I'm not so sure I'd go along with the driver's license in lieu of
a medical either

> I think this is a disaster waiting to happen, especially if the VLJs really
> mutliply, and you have many types of planes/jets with pilots of varying
> experience in traffic patterns.

We have that now. The insurance industry - which essentially trumps the
feds - is wary of lower time pilots (say <1000hrs) flying 300kt+ jets
and has put into place strict training & currency requirements for VLJ
owner/pilots. The bigger issue is that VLJs are expected to operate
from the underutilized small airports which means sharing the pattern
with slower piston aircraft. This is not necessarily a recipe for
disaster, but is something the FAA will undoubtedly be watching.