GA friendly airport in NYC

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Hello,

I'm thinking about taking a trip to NYC for a weekend... I've never
been so I would be looking to do some touristy stuff. I am wondering
where the best (closest to transportation, no landing fees, good
service) airport would be for me to go to?

Any help would be appreciated!

-Dico

[TF]

You can certainly narrow your choices down by looking at the NY Terminal
Area Chart and then use AirNav to get FBO numberd to call around. I fly out
of KMJX with is pretty far south but regularly fly to KFRG.

You might try Linden KLDJ. Pretty close to KEWR.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLDJ

I mean its a big BUSY airspace where are you coming from ?


> wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hello,
>
> I'm thinking about taking a trip to NYC for a weekend... I've never
> been so I would be looking to do some touristy stuff. I am wondering
> where the best (closest to transportation, no landing fees, good
> service) airport would be for me to go to?
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> -Dico
>

[Marty Shapiro]

wrote in
oups.com:

> Hello,
>
> I'm thinking about taking a trip to NYC for a weekend... I've never
> been so I would be looking to do some touristy stuff. I am wondering
> where the best (closest to transportation, no landing fees, good
> service) airport would be for me to go to?
>
> Any help would be appreciated!
>
> -Dico
>
>

I can't help you with airports, but if your looking for touristy
stuff to do, I can recommend the 3 hour boat tour which circles Manhattan.
Web referance for CircleLine tours is http://www.circleline42.com/

Also see the South Street Seaport Museum, with its aircraft carrier
and a Concorde. Web site is http://www.southstseaport.org/

If you are interested in musuems, there are many. One of the more
unique art museums is the Guggenheim. You take the elevator to the top and
then walk down the spiral gallery back to the ground. Another one I like,
but is not as well known, is the Cloisters, part of the NY Metropoliton
Muesuem of Art. Located at the northern tip of Manhatton, Fort Tryon Park,
and overlooking the Hudson, it has a great collection of medieval art,
suits of armor, etc.

Another classic tourist attraction is to catch a show at Radio City
Music Hall. You didn't say when you were going, but their Christmas
Spectacular starts in early November, Web site at
http://www.radiocity.com/

Hope this helps.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

(remove SPAMNOT to email me)

[Roy Smith]

Marty Shapiro > wrote:

> Also see the South Street Seaport Museum, with its aircraft carrier
> and a Concorde. Web site is http://www.southstseaport.org/

I think you're confusing two different museums. South Street Seaport is on
the east side, near Wall Street. They've got a square rigger (The
Peking?), Ambrose Light Ship, and some other stuff. Worth going to, if
you're into that sort of thing. The carrier and the Concorde is the
Intrepid Air And Space Museum. As of just a few days ago, it's closed for
a planned 18 month renovation.

But, to answer the original question, there is unfortunately, no easy way
to get into Manhattan from any of the local GA airports.

From HPN, a 5-10 minute cab ride will get you to the downtown White Plains
train station. From there, it's about a half hour to Grand Central on
Metro North. Check http://as0.mta.info/mnr/schedules/sched_form.cfm for
schedules.

From TEB, I think you can get a NJ Transit train to Hoboken, then transfer
to the PATH train into downtown.

From FRG, somebody can probably run you over to the Long Island Railroad
station, then you can get a train into Penn Station.

None of these alternatives are what I would call convenient.

[Jose[_1_]]

> Also see the South Street Seaport Museum, with its aircraft carrier
> and a Concorde. Web site is http://www.southstseaport.org/

Call first. The Concorde is looking for a home. Intrepid (a must-see)
is also moving - I think it's closed right now.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Peter R.]

Roy Smith > wrote:

> From TEB, I think you can get a NJ Transit train to Hoboken, then transfer
> to the PATH train into downtown.

There is also a NJ Transit bus that stops right off the approach end of rwy
24 at TEB. The two FBOs I used when I commuted to TEB would provide a free
car ride (about a one to two minute ride) to the bus stop. The bus makes
about five other local stops on its way past The Meadowlands (Giants
Stadium) to the Holland Tunnel and into Port Authority.

Off peak the bus takes about 20 minutes and during peak traffic inbound to
Manhattan the bus ride could take an hour or more. Cost back in 2004 was
US $2.60 per person. In my opinion, the bus ride off peak was the most
convenient method to get into Manhattan from TEB.


--
Peter

[Roy Smith]

T o d d P a t t i s t > wrote:
> Consider flying the VFR corridor first and looking at the
> Intrepid (aircraft carrier with museum inside), the Concord,
> the Statue of Liberty and Governor's Island from the air.
> They make the visits on the ground a lot more fun.

Make sure you check the Yankees schedule. If they're playing a game in
Yankee Stadium, the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

[Grumman-581[_3_]]

> wrote in message
oups.com...
> I'm thinking about taking a trip to NYC for a weekend... I've never
> been so I would be looking to do some touristy stuff. I am wondering
> where the best (closest to transportation, no landing fees, good
> service) airport would be for me to go to?

Flushing...

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=40.775829,-73.834326&spn=0.007865,0.014634&t=k&om=1

Are you flying an amphib?

[Roy Smith]

In article >,
"Grumman-581" > wrote:

> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > I'm thinking about taking a trip to NYC for a weekend... I've never
> > been so I would be looking to do some touristy stuff. I am wondering
> > where the best (closest to transportation, no landing fees, good
> > service) airport would be for me to go to?
>
> Flushing...
>
> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=40.775829,-73.834326&spn=0.007865,0.01
> 4634&t=k&om=1
>
> Are you flying an amphib?

Actually, if you're flying something on floats, the 23rd street seaplane
base is *very* convenient. Just a 20 minute walk (or, depending on
traffic, a 30 minute cab ride) into midtown.

[Gary Drescher]

"Roy Smith" > wrote in message
...
>T o d d P a t t i s t > wrote:
>> Consider flying the VFR corridor first and looking at the
>> Intrepid (aircraft carrier with museum inside), the Concord,
>> the Statue of Liberty and Governor's Island from the air.
>> They make the visits on the ground a lot more fun.
>
> Make sure you check the Yankees schedule. If they're playing a game in
> Yankee Stadium, the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if pilots have ever been cited for
flying the Hudson corridor during a Yankees game? I imagine that such TFR
violations aren't unusual.

--Gary

[Grumman-581[_3_]]

"Roy Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, if you're flying something on floats, the 23rd street seaplane
> base is *very* convenient. Just a 20 minute walk (or, depending on
> traffic, a 30 minute cab ride) into midtown.

Yeah, but landing at Flushing would be *so* much more interesting...
<evil-grin>

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/NY/Airfields_NY_NY_Queens.htm
http://www.forgotten-ny.com/STREET%20SCENES/newflushingairport/yonder2.html

[B A R R Y[_1_]]

Roy Smith wrote:
> the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.

I actually got surprised by one of those for a UCONN football game this
past weekend. They don't get a discrete listing on the TFR sites, or a
NOTAM, and the AOPA flight planner didn't display it. I'm not into
college football, so I forgot a game was scheduled.

Fortunately, I was listening to BDL approach heard the controller remind
someone else about it!

[Roy Smith]

In article >,
B A R R Y > wrote:

> Roy Smith wrote:
> > the "stealth sports arena TFR" is in effect.
>
> I actually got surprised by one of those for a UCONN football game this
> past weekend. They don't get a discrete listing on the TFR sites, or a
> NOTAM, and the AOPA flight planner didn't display it. I'm not into
> college football, so I forgot a game was scheduled.
>
> Fortunately, I was listening to BDL approach heard the controller remind
> someone else about it!

What an insane system. You don't want me to fly somewhere, at least give
me a clue where and when. Chart the stadiums. At the very least, put a
notam on duats.

The system we have now is just plain nuts.

[Ron Natalie]

Roy Smith wrote:
..
>
> The system we have now is just plain nuts.

The nuke plant one was even better. The description of where
they were was so bad that they located the two collocated
Salem (NJ) plants in drastically different places and
managed to get neither one in NJ.

[B A R R Y[_1_]]

Roy Smith wrote:
>
> What an insane system. You don't want me to fly somewhere, at least give
> me a clue where and when. Chart the stadiums. At the very least, put a
> notam on duats.

I'm with ya'!

I *think* if I had called FSS for an area briefing I would have gotten
it. I prefer duats and the OPA planner, so I usually only call if I
need an a update and I'm not near a computer. Now that football season
has begun, I will ALWAYS call FSS from the airport. The general trend
in every business is to automate as many tasks as possible, as human
interaction is expensive. You'd the FAA (and Lockheed) would want to
help us not call if we can get the info automagically.

You'd think a sports TFR could easily generate a discrete listing on
the FAA TFR site, or even better a NOTAM. Airshow, VIP, etc... TFRs are
NOTAM'd well in advance. It's not like UCONN woke up Saturday morning
and decided to have a football game!

Since ATC knew of the exact TFR, above and beyond the blanket listing
which requires you to know when the events are, some computer system,
somewhere, has the information. I can't understand why it would be so
difficult to link it to duats or make each event pop up on the TFR list.

UCONN's stadium is on the chart, as a closed airstrip. <G>

[Andrew Gideon]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 21:44:42 -0400, TF wrote:

> You can certainly narrow your choices down by looking at the NY Terminal
> Area Chart and then use AirNav to get FBO numberd to call around. I fly
> out of KMJX with is pretty far south but regularly fly to KFRG.
>
> You might try Linden KLDJ. Pretty close to KEWR.
>
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KLDJ
>

From KLDJ, it's a short cab ride to a train into Manhattan. Be aware,
though, that the office is not open 24x7.

If you're worried about finding KLDJ in all the clutter, follow the GPS-A
approach. If you stick to the altitudes described, you'll stay clear of
the class B (at least, last time I flew it).

Another alternative is KCDW. The Mac Dan FBO there rents cars (or at
least they used to). They will also give one a lift to the bus stop (or
at least they used to).

Call and confirm, as it's been a long while since I checked into these.

- Andrew