small raptor in my shop

[Brad]

Was hoping someone could help me identify a raptor. I was working in my
shop the other day, the door was open and I was waxing the Glidair
plug.....getting it ready to start laying up mold side 2. Suddenly a
bird flew right through the doorway, swooped right over my
head........and crashed into the window. Poor thing was stunned, but I
was able to wrap her in a towel and take her outside by the pond and
sat down with her in my lap. A few minutes later she perked up, stood
up on my leg, looked around.......looked at me, posed for the camera
that my wife had grabbed, and about 5 minutes later she flew off into
the woods.

The bird was about 9 inches tall, had bright yellow legs, and a bright
yellow bump on the bridge of her beak, plus bright yellow irises and
dark black pupils.

This was very cool.........not only do I get to fly with raptors, but
this time I actually got to have one sit in my lap!

Cheers,
Brad

[Wayne Paul]

Brad,

It sounds link an "American Kestel" - Lenght 8 1/2 inches - Wingspan 21
inches.
http://images.google.com/images?q=american+kestrel+pictures

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Mackay_2006



"Brad" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Was hoping someone could help me identify a raptor. I was working in my
> shop the other day, the door was open and I was waxing the Glidair
> plug.....getting it ready to start laying up mold side 2. Suddenly a
> bird flew right through the doorway, swooped right over my
> head........and crashed into the window. Poor thing was stunned, but I
> was able to wrap her in a towel and take her outside by the pond and
> sat down with her in my lap. A few minutes later she perked up, stood
> up on my leg, looked around.......looked at me, posed for the camera
> that my wife had grabbed, and about 5 minutes later she flew off into
> the woods.
>
> The bird was about 9 inches tall, had bright yellow legs, and a bright
> yellow bump on the bridge of her beak, plus bright yellow irises and
> dark black pupils.
>
> This was very cool.........not only do I get to fly with raptors, but
> this time I actually got to have one sit in my lap!
>
> Cheers,
> Brad
>

[Brad]

Wayne,

Yup, that was her! (I don't know if was female or not)

Thanks,
Brad


Wayne Paul wrote:
> Brad,
>
> It sounds link an "American Kestel" - Lenght 8 1/2 inches - Wingspan 21
> inches.
> http://images.google.com/images?q=american+kestrel+pictures
>
> Wayne
> http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Mackay_2006
>
>
>
> "Brad" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Was hoping someone could help me identify a raptor. I was working in my
> > shop the other day, the door was open and I was waxing the Glidair
> > plug.....getting it ready to start laying up mold side 2. Suddenly a
> > bird flew right through the doorway, swooped right over my
> > head........and crashed into the window. Poor thing was stunned, but I
> > was able to wrap her in a towel and take her outside by the pond and
> > sat down with her in my lap. A few minutes later she perked up, stood
> > up on my leg, looked around.......looked at me, posed for the camera
> > that my wife had grabbed, and about 5 minutes later she flew off into
> > the woods.
> >
> > The bird was about 9 inches tall, had bright yellow legs, and a bright
> > yellow bump on the bridge of her beak, plus bright yellow irises and
> > dark black pupils.
> >
> > This was very cool.........not only do I get to fly with raptors, but
> > this time I actually got to have one sit in my lap!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brad
> >

[[email protected]]

Brad wrote:
> Wayne,
>
> Yup, that was her! (I don't know if was female or not)
>
> Thanks,
> Brad

Brad, Did the bird make any comment on the Glideair ?
After all that was an expert in soaring you were holding.

Robert Mudd

[Brad]

LOL........!

No, but I think he saw the white towel I was waving around and thought
it was food!

Brad

BTW.......on the horiz tail sublject: going to leave as-is until I
re-paint the part.



wrote:
> Brad wrote:
> > Wayne,
> >
> > Yup, that was her! (I don't know if was female or not)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brad
>
> Brad, Did the bird make any comment on the Glideair ?
> After all that was an expert in soaring you were holding.
>
> Robert Mudd

[[email protected]]

We want to see the pictures Brad !
Best Regards, Dave

[Wayne Paul]

Brad,

Send me the picture and I will post them for you on my website.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/


> wrote in message
ps.com...
> We want to see the pictures Brad !
> Best Regards, Dave
>

[Brad]

I am sending you all the pix we took. I had to reduce the file size to
send. If they are not high enough quality, I'll resend after I crop out
some of the background.

Remember, I was working in my shop, so I really wasn't having a bad
"hair day".....:)

Cheers,
Brad


Wayne Paul wrote:
> Brad,
>
> Send me the picture and I will post them for you on my website.
>
> Wayne
> HP-14 "6F"
> http://www.soaridaho.com/
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> > We want to see the pictures Brad !
> > Best Regards, Dave
> >

[Papa3]

Brad wrote:
> Was hoping someone could help me identify a raptor.
> The bird was about 9 inches tall, had bright yellow legs, and a bright
> yellow bump on the bridge of her beak, plus bright yellow irises and
> dark black pupils.
>
> This was very cool.........not only do I get to fly with raptors, but
> this time I actually got to have one sit in my lap!
>
> Cheers,
> Brad

Brad,

The other guys beat me too it - I was gonna guess either Merlin or
Kestrel.


Erik Mann
LS8-18 P3

[Brad]

jury is still out guys.................Wayne has the pix and is
convinced it may be somthing other than a Kestrel.

Stay tuned!

Brad


Papa3 wrote:
> Brad wrote:
> > Was hoping someone could help me identify a raptor.
> > The bird was about 9 inches tall, had bright yellow legs, and a bright
> > yellow bump on the bridge of her beak, plus bright yellow irises and
> > dark black pupils.
> >
> > This was very cool.........not only do I get to fly with raptors, but
> > this time I actually got to have one sit in my lap!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Brad
>
> Brad,
>
> The other guys beat me too it - I was gonna guess either Merlin or
> Kestrel.
>
>
> Erik Mann
> LS8-18 P3

[Mike[_8_]]

Nest guess is a Sharp Shinned Hawk.


Brad wrote:
> jury is still out guys.................Wayne has the pix and is
> convinced it may be somthing other than a Kestrel.
>
> Stay tuned!
>
> Brad
>
>
> Papa3 wrote:
> > Brad wrote:
> > > Was hoping someone could help me identify a raptor.
> > > The bird was about 9 inches tall, had bright yellow legs, and a bright
> > > yellow bump on the bridge of her beak, plus bright yellow irises and
> > > dark black pupils.
> > >
> > > This was very cool.........not only do I get to fly with raptors, but
> > > this time I actually got to have one sit in my lap!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Brad
> >
> > Brad,
> >
> > The other guys beat me too it - I was gonna guess either Merlin or
> > Kestrel.
> >
> >
> > Erik Mann
> > LS8-18 P3

[Wayne Paul]

After viewing the pictures, I have come to conclusion that it is either a
Sharp-Shinned Hawk or a Cooper's Hawk. In one of the pictures it looks too
large to be a Sharp-Shinned Hawk which is only 10 1/2 inches long measured
from the beak to the tip of the tail. On the other hand the Cooper's Hawk
is 15 1/2 inches long. I have ask Brad for size verification.

I plan to have the pictures available for viewing and comments tomorrow.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Near_Arco.jpg


"Mike" > wrote in message
ups.com...

> Next guess is a Sharp Shinned Hawk.
>
>
> Brad wrote:
>> jury is still out guys.................Wayne has the pix and is
>> convinced it may be somthing other than a Kestrel.
>>
>> Stay tuned!
>>
>> Brad
>>

[Ray Lovinggood]

My bet is KS would know!

Ray Lovinggood
(Not yet succombed by gasses from hazardous waste facility
fire in Apex, North Carolina, located about 30 miles
from here. However, frequently overcome by noxious
gasses in cockpit of LS1-d)

At 02:24 07 October 2006, Wayne Paul wrote:
>After viewing the pictures, I have come to conclusion
>that it is either a
>Sharp-Shinned Hawk or a Cooper's Hawk. In one of
>the pictures it looks too
>large to be a Sharp-Shinned Hawk which is only 10 1/2
>inches long measured
>from the beak to the tip of the tail. On the other
>hand the Cooper's Hawk
>is 15 1/2 inches long. I have ask Brad for size verification.
>
>I plan to have the pictures available for viewing and
>comments tomorrow.
>
>Wayne
>HP-14 '6F'
>http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/N990_Near_Arco.jpg
>
>
>'Mike' wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>> Next guess is a Sharp Shinned Hawk.
>>
>>
>> Brad wrote:
>>> jury is still out guys.................Wayne has the
>>>pix and is
>>> convinced it may be somthing other than a Kestrel.
>>>
>>> Stay tuned!
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>
>
>

[[email protected]]

> Ray Lovinggood
> (Not yet succombed by gasses from hazardous waste facility
> fire in Apex, North Carolina, located about 30 miles
> from here. However, frequently overcome by noxious
> gasses in cockpit of LS1-d)


Are those gaseous clouds around Uranus...?

Sorry everyone, I know Ray from a few years back. Couldn't resist. That
question was actually on a t-shirt from an astronomy convention a few
years back that a friend had...

Sorry for the thread creep

[Wayne Paul]

Here is the link to Brad's pictures and my research on the subject.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2A621BED

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com

[Al Eddie]

Having seen the pics now, my money's on the Sharp-shinned
hawk.

;o)


At 05:36 07 October 2006, Wayne Paul wrote:
>Here is the link to Brad's pictures and my research
>on the subject.
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2A621BED
>
>Wayne
>HP-14 '6F'
>http://www.soaridaho.com
>
>
>

[Don[_1_]]

this bird is a passage female sharp shinned hawk, passage meaning under
1 yr old.


--
Don
Posted at www.flight.org

[Brad]

Hey Guys, we have a new entry for the "Guess what kind of hawk it is"
mystery.
My friend Noel's mom has this to say..............

"Brad's bird is a very young Red Shouldered Hawk, not a Sharp-shinned.
The latter are very light in color, thinner and longer, with a
different tail. The streaky breast of this one, plus the clearly
black-banded (stripes) on the tail, make it a Red Shouldered (a very
common bird). My guess is that it was an inexperienced hunter, was
chasing prey, and wasn't paying attention to where it was going. We've
seen that in our back yard before. All of a sudden: SPLAT! He or she
was lucky to survive. In birds of prey, the girls are 1/3 larger than
the boys. My guess is, though it's very tricky to "sex" birds, that
this is a very young male Red Shouldered.
Thanks for sharing!"

Cheers, and thanks!
Brad

[Roger Worden]

What a thrill to have a close-up visit with a beautiful bird... if only for
a few minutes.

"Brad" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hey Guys, we have a new entry for the "Guess what kind of hawk it is"
> mystery.
> My friend Noel's mom has this to say..............
>
> "Brad's bird is a very young Red Shouldered Hawk, not a Sharp-shinned.
> The latter are very light in color, thinner and longer, with a
> different tail. The streaky breast of this one, plus the clearly
> black-banded (stripes) on the tail, make it a Red Shouldered (a very
> common bird). My guess is that it was an inexperienced hunter, was
> chasing prey, and wasn't paying attention to where it was going. We've
> seen that in our back yard before. All of a sudden: SPLAT! He or she
> was lucky to survive. In birds of prey, the girls are 1/3 larger than
> the boys. My guess is, though it's very tricky to "sex" birds, that
> this is a very young male Red Shouldered.
> Thanks for sharing!"
>
> Cheers, and thanks!
> Brad
>

[Don[_1_]]

like I said before....it's a passage female sharp shin hawk.


--
Don
Posted at www.flight.org

[Wayne Paul]

Brad,

The Western range of the Red-Shouldered hawk includes California and extends
south into Mexico. This would make a Puget Sound area sighting highly
unlikely.

In order to confirm the identification of your hawk as a Sharpie, I sent the
link (http://www.soaridaho.com/Guest_Photos/Birds/Brad_and_Hawk.html) to Dr
Leon Powers (http://leonpowers.com/) for verification. Here is his reply:

"I do agree with the 'inmmature female Sharp-Shinned Hawk' assessment on
identification.

It is often difficult to distinguish a male Cooper's Hawk from the female
Sharpies, but the smallness of the head in proportion to the rest of the
body, and the squarish tip of the tail strongly suggests Sharpie to me. But
what the heck do I know about it Wayne, I'm just an aging naturalist!"

Don and Leon, my local expert, agree. So, it must be a Sharp-Shinned hawk.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/


"Brad" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hey Guys, we have a new entry for the "Guess what kind of hawk it is"
> mystery.
> My friend Noel's mom has this to say..............
>
> "Brad's bird is a very young Red Shouldered Hawk, not a Sharp-shinned.
> The latter are very light in color, thinner and longer, with a
> different tail. The streaky breast of this one, plus the clearly
> black-banded (stripes) on the tail, make it a Red Shouldered (a very
> common bird). My guess is that it was an inexperienced hunter, was
> chasing prey, and wasn't paying attention to where it was going. We've
> seen that in our back yard before. All of a sudden: SPLAT! He or she
> was lucky to survive. In birds of prey, the girls are 1/3 larger than
> the boys. My guess is, though it's very tricky to "sex" birds, that
> this is a very young male Red Shouldered.
> Thanks for sharing!"
>
> Cheers, and thanks!
> Brad
>

[[email protected]]

Thanks Brad and Wayne !
Best Regards, Dave

http://www.nadler.com/public/Dave_and_Rupert.JPG

PS: Did you give that bird a nice neck-rub ?
The tame Golden Eagle KS used to have enjoyed
a good neck-rub, as does Rupert.

Wayne Paul wrote:
> Brad,
>
> The Western range of the Red-Shouldered hawk includes California and extends
> south into Mexico. This would make a Puget Sound area sighting highly
> unlikely.
>
> In order to confirm the identification of your hawk as a Sharpie, I sent the
> link (http://www.soaridaho.com/Guest_Photos/Birds/Brad_and_Hawk.html) to Dr
> Leon Powers (http://leonpowers.com/) for verification. Here is his reply:
>
> "I do agree with the 'inmmature female Sharp-Shinned Hawk' assessment on
> identification.
>
> It is often difficult to distinguish a male Cooper's Hawk from the female
> Sharpies, but the smallness of the head in proportion to the rest of the
> body, and the squarish tip of the tail strongly suggests Sharpie to me. But
> what the heck do I know about it Wayne, I'm just an aging naturalist!"
>
> Don and Leon, my local expert, agree. So, it must be a Sharp-Shinned hawk.
>
> Wayne
> http://www.soaridaho.com/
>
>
> "Brad" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > Hey Guys, we have a new entry for the "Guess what kind of hawk it is"
> > mystery.
> > My friend Noel's mom has this to say..............
> >
> > "Brad's bird is a very young Red Shouldered Hawk, not a Sharp-shinned.
> > The latter are very light in color, thinner and longer, with a
> > different tail. The streaky breast of this one, plus the clearly
> > black-banded (stripes) on the tail, make it a Red Shouldered (a very
> > common bird). My guess is that it was an inexperienced hunter, was
> > chasing prey, and wasn't paying attention to where it was going. We've
> > seen that in our back yard before. All of a sudden: SPLAT! He or she
> > was lucky to survive. In birds of prey, the girls are 1/3 larger than
> > the boys. My guess is, though it's very tricky to "sex" birds, that
> > this is a very young male Red Shouldered.
> > Thanks for sharing!"
> >
> > Cheers, and thanks!
> > Brad

[Brad]

Hi Dave,

Thanks! Was quite an experience having this little fellow visit me. Did
not give the neck rub, I'll save that for my ferrets!

Cheers,
Brad


wrote:
> Thanks Brad and Wayne !
> Best Regards, Dave
>
> http://www.nadler.com/public/Dave_and_Rupert.JPG
>
> PS: Did you give that bird a nice neck-rub ?
> The tame Golden Eagle KS used to have enjoyed
> a good neck-rub, as does Rupert.
>
> Wayne Paul wrote:
> > Brad,
> >
> > The Western range of the Red-Shouldered hawk includes California and extends
> > south into Mexico. This would make a Puget Sound area sighting highly
> > unlikely.
> >
> > In order to confirm the identification of your hawk as a Sharpie, I sent the
> > link (http://www.soaridaho.com/Guest_Photos/Birds/Brad_and_Hawk.html) to Dr
> > Leon Powers (http://leonpowers.com/) for verification. Here is his reply:
> >
> > "I do agree with the 'inmmature female Sharp-Shinned Hawk' assessment on
> > identification.
> >
> > It is often difficult to distinguish a male Cooper's Hawk from the female
> > Sharpies, but the smallness of the head in proportion to the rest of the
> > body, and the squarish tip of the tail strongly suggests Sharpie to me. But
> > what the heck do I know about it Wayne, I'm just an aging naturalist!"
> >
> > Don and Leon, my local expert, agree. So, it must be a Sharp-Shinned hawk.
> >
> > Wayne
> > http://www.soaridaho.com/
> >
> >
> > "Brad" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > Hey Guys, we have a new entry for the "Guess what kind of hawk it is"
> > > mystery.
> > > My friend Noel's mom has this to say..............
> > >
> > > "Brad's bird is a very young Red Shouldered Hawk, not a Sharp-shinned.
> > > The latter are very light in color, thinner and longer, with a
> > > different tail. The streaky breast of this one, plus the clearly
> > > black-banded (stripes) on the tail, make it a Red Shouldered (a very
> > > common bird). My guess is that it was an inexperienced hunter, was
> > > chasing prey, and wasn't paying attention to where it was going. We've
> > > seen that in our back yard before. All of a sudden: SPLAT! He or she
> > > was lucky to survive. In birds of prey, the girls are 1/3 larger than
> > > the boys. My guess is, though it's very tricky to "sex" birds, that
> > > this is a very young male Red Shouldered.
> > > Thanks for sharing!"
> > >
> > > Cheers, and thanks!
> > > Brad