A heartfelt thank you

[A. Sinan Unur]

Hello All:

I am *not* a pilot. Can't fly MSFS worth a damn but have been up in a
C172 once (discovery flight in 1995). Had a lot of difficulty taxiing,
but managed to take off (with the instructor telling me exactly what to
do in each step). Flew a couple of circles over Cayuga Lake. Did a few
banking turns. There were really no winds to speak off and I was able to
stay very close to the altitude the instructor told me to fly at.
Landing was a hectic as I got really nervous when the instructor told me
I could land. Again, he told me exactly what to do, so there wasn't much
left to me but to do exactly what he said. I was very happy and proud
that day and I cannot forget it.

By the time I was done with grad school and had a little bit more
income, 9/11 happened and I thought it was prudent to postpone flight
training (I am from Turkey).

This May, I bought an hour long flight in the rear seat of a PT39
Fairchild. The feel of the open cockpit was amazing. Once airborne, I
had the stick for a while, I was able to maintain altitude during the
couple of turns I made.

The plane went off the runway during landing -- I wasn't in control --
due to what I think was an unexpected wind gust just before touch down.
It was an interesting experience as I had been watching intently over
the pilots shoulder. The approach looked perfect to me yet, just as I
was anticipating touch-down, I felt the aircraft bank to the right, and
we landed on the grass. I even thought the pilot may have done it on
purpose (you know for that 'authentic' feeling) for a moment until I
heard the tower asking if we were OK and telling us they were sending
EMS and fire over).

I also took a hot-air balloon ride the same month with my girlfriend who
has a fear of flying. Somehow, it worked wonders for the series of
transatlantic flights she had to make over the summer.

I hope to have the financial resources to start my training in a couple
of years.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank all participants (well,
except for maniac) in this group. Lurking here, reading your stories,
arguments keeps the dream alive for me.

I will go back to lurking now.

Sinan
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[Jon Kraus]

No thank you!! I love it when someone gets touched by aviation as most
of us participating in the NG are. Please let us know how your training
is progressing or not progressing as the case may be.

Your English and grammer are most excellent (being from Turkey) and all.
Better than mine and I've been here all of my life. Take care.

Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ UMP

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I am *not* a pilot. Can't fly MSFS worth a damn but have been up in a
> C172 once (discovery flight in 1995). Had a lot of difficulty taxiing,
> but managed to take off (with the instructor telling me exactly what to
> do in each step). Flew a couple of circles over Cayuga Lake. Did a few
> banking turns. There were really no winds to speak off and I was able to
> stay very close to the altitude the instructor told me to fly at.
> Landing was a hectic as I got really nervous when the instructor told me
> I could land. Again, he told me exactly what to do, so there wasn't much
> left to me but to do exactly what he said. I was very happy and proud
> that day and I cannot forget it.
>
> By the time I was done with grad school and had a little bit more
> income, 9/11 happened and I thought it was prudent to postpone flight
> training (I am from Turkey).
>
> This May, I bought an hour long flight in the rear seat of a PT39
> Fairchild. The feel of the open cockpit was amazing. Once airborne, I
> had the stick for a while, I was able to maintain altitude during the
> couple of turns I made.
>
> The plane went off the runway during landing -- I wasn't in control --
> due to what I think was an unexpected wind gust just before touch down.
> It was an interesting experience as I had been watching intently over
> the pilots shoulder. The approach looked perfect to me yet, just as I
> was anticipating touch-down, I felt the aircraft bank to the right, and
> we landed on the grass. I even thought the pilot may have done it on
> purpose (you know for that 'authentic' feeling) for a moment until I
> heard the tower asking if we were OK and telling us they were sending
> EMS and fire over).
>
> I also took a hot-air balloon ride the same month with my girlfriend who
> has a fear of flying. Somehow, it worked wonders for the series of
> transatlantic flights she had to make over the summer.
>
> I hope to have the financial resources to start my training in a couple
> of years.
>
> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all participants (well,
> except for maniac) in this group. Lurking here, reading your stories,
> arguments keeps the dream alive for me.
>
> I will go back to lurking now.
>
> Sinan

[Peter R.]

"A. Sinan Unur" > wrote:

> Flew a couple of circles over Cayuga Lake.

Is this the Cayuga Lake of the NY State Finger Lakes?

--
Peter

[Montblack[_1_]]

("A. Sinan Unur" wrote)
> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all participants (well,
> except for maniac) in this group. Lurking here, reading your stories,
> arguments keeps the dream alive for me.

Me too ...you know, keeping the dream alive and all.

Anyway, what he said. :-)


> I will go back to lurking now.

Sorry, that is not allowed. You are now ...a regular. <g>

A big THANKS for delurking!


Montblack
"(well, except for maniac)"

[Robert M. Gary]

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I am *not* a pilot. Can't fly MSFS worth a damn but have been up in a
> C172 once (discovery flight in 1995).

I am a pilot and I can't fly MSFS worth a damn either. Welcome to the
club!!

-Robert, CFII

[A. Sinan Unur]

"Peter R." > wrote in news:pp7owlepropn.dlg@ID-
259643.user.individual.net:

> "A. Sinan Unur" > wrote:
>
>> Flew a couple of circles over Cayuga Lake.
>
> Is this the Cayuga Lake of the NY State Finger Lakes?

Yes it is. I am in Ithaca, NY. I think I am in one of the best settings to
start learning (The East Hill Flying Club, KITH seems ideal) but, even
though I am making much more money now, there a big decisions to be made
in the future and associated costs.

In any case, the weather seemed beatiful today. There are still colorful
leaves on the trees, and I could just imagine how exhilirating a sunset
flight would have been. Are you in the area?

Sinan
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[Peter R.]

"A. Sinan Unur" > wrote:

> In any case, the weather seemed beatiful today. There are still colorful
> leaves on the trees, and I could just imagine how exhilirating a sunset
> flight would have been. Are you in the area?

Yes, I fly out of Syracuse, NY. Airports in the Finger Lakes region and
Lake Placid, NY, are my favorite destinations this time of year.



--
Peter

[A. Sinan Unur]

"Robert M. Gary" > wrote in news:1160420220.458438.276940
@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

>
> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> Hello All:
>>
>> I am *not* a pilot. Can't fly MSFS worth a damn but have been up in a
>> C172 once (discovery flight in 1995).
>
> I am a pilot and I can't fly MSFS worth a damn either. Welcome to the
> club!!

Hey, thanks for the encouragement ;-) Back in the 80s, I used to play
flying games on a ZX Spectrum. The sky was blue, the ground was green. No
one was quite able to relate to me sitting in front of the TV screen
trying to keep the horizon centered and level while making fake engine
noises (the spectrum had rather feeble sound facilities).

What I remember from the discovery flight was how natural everything felt
once I was in the air. Obviously, I was familiar with the basic physics of
control surfaces, but still I had not expected to feel so at home.

Now, the PT39 was an altogether different story. Being behind the pilot,
not having a clear idea of where the nose was made me feel somewhat lost.
But it was still much better than a computer game ;-)

Sinan
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[A. Sinan Unur]

"Montblack" > wrote in
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> ("A. Sinan Unur" wrote)
>> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all participants
>> (well, except for maniac) in this group. Lurking here, reading your
>> stories, arguments keeps the dream alive for me.
>
> Me too ...you know, keeping the dream alive and all.
>
> Anyway, what he said. :-)
>
>
>> I will go back to lurking now.
>
> Sorry, that is not allowed. You are now ...a regular. <g>

LOL. I am not shy about jumping in if there is a topic where I know
something, but I read this group to learn from others. I especially enjoy
discussions of various problems people encounter (for example, NW_Pilot's
story) and the fun people have.

> A big THANKS for delurking!

I felt it might be a welcome change from all of this MSFS talk.

Sinan
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[A. Sinan Unur]

"Peter R." > wrote in
:

> "A. Sinan Unur" > wrote:
>
>> In any case, the weather seemed beatiful today. There are still
>> colorful leaves on the trees, and I could just imagine how
>> exhilirating a sunset flight would have been. Are you in the area?
>
> Yes, I fly out of Syracuse, NY. Airports in the Finger Lakes region
> and Lake Placid, NY, are my favorite destinations this time of year.

Maybe we'll run into each other one day. I have lived in Ithaca for almost
15 years now and the wonders of this region never cease to amaze me.

Sinan
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> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all participants (well,
> except for maniac) in this group. Lurking here, reading your stories,
> arguments keeps the dream alive for me.

We may be a fickle bunch including myself, but when it comes down to
the world of flying, we join hands *smile*

If you ever find your way down to the deep south, look me up at KMBO.
I'll take you up for free as there is nothing like the pleasures of
sharing the magic of flight.

> I will go back to lurking now.

Nah, don't do that, lurkers don't make the group what it is. If you
get board and want to see some of my flying video's go to
..http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mbo%20lieberman. High
bandwidth recommended and you can download the videos to your local
computer (plays back better).

Welcome to our small corner of the world!

Allen

[Don Byrer]

Glad to have ya...
We sometimes forget how many folks may be just lurking out
there...absorbing the info...or watching the fracas...
Best of luck with your training.

(If mxsmanic had posted an introduction along the same lines...he
might be more welcome here.)

--Don
Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...<smack-smack-smack-smack...>"

[Peter R.]

"A. Sinan Unur" > wrote:

> Maybe we'll run into each other one day. I have lived in Ithaca for almost
> 15 years now and the wonders of this region never cease to amaze me.

Do you go to the flying club's pancake breakfast held every year around
June right there at the airport? I have been attending those the past few
years.

Ithaca is a very pretty area and an excellent location to learn to fly.

--
Peter

[Jay Honeck]

> I would like to take this opportunity to thank all participants (well,
> except for maniac) in this group. Lurking here, reading your stories,
> arguments keeps the dream alive for me.

Welcome, sir! You will find this to be an outstanding source of
information, inspiration, and (occasionally) frustration -- and it's
always good to remember that the advice you receive here is worth
precisely what you paid for it.

Just 12 years ago, I was in your shoes. In that decade-plus, aviation
has literally changed my life -- 100% for the better, I might add. My
wife and I have flown our kids from coast-to-coast, seeing things,
visiting places, and meeting people that would have been completely
impossible without general aviation.

Don't wait to take flight lessons! I hemmed and hawed and
procrastinated until I was 36 years old -- and I now regard the first
35 years of my life as time wasted standing on the ground, looking up.
It's a bit financially painful to get the certificate, but it's yours
for life. Just do it!

> I will go back to lurking now.

Jump in from time to time, please. Students and wannabees are always
welcome here!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[A. Sinan Unur]

"Peter R." > wrote in
:

> "A. Sinan Unur" > wrote:
>
>> Maybe we'll run into each other one day. I have lived in Ithaca for
>> almost 15 years now and the wonders of this region never cease to
>> amaze me.
>
> Do you go to the flying club's pancake breakfast held every year
> around June right there at the airport? I have been attending those
> the past few years.

Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to do that the last few years.

> Ithaca is a very pretty area and an excellent location to learn to
> fly.

That is correct. I have tried coming up with some 'creative accounting
techniques' to show that $6-7K over the next year would not be bad but
alas, I am no Enron ;-)

Sinan
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[A. Sinan Unur]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in news:1160481206.442744.104370
@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

....

> Just 12 years ago, I was in your shoes. In that decade-plus, aviation
> has literally changed my life -- 100% for the better, I might add. My
> wife and I have flown our kids from coast-to-coast, seeing things,
> visiting places, and meeting people that would have been completely
> impossible without general aviation.

Thank you, Jay, for the encouragement. By the way, I love your hotel idea.
I also really enjoy the videos you post on your web site. Continued
success with your hotel.

Sinan

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[A. Sinan Unur]

" > wrote in
oups.com:

> If you ever find your way down to the deep south, look me up at KMBO.
> I'll take you up for free as there is nothing like the pleasures of
> sharing the magic of flight.

Thank you for the offer, Allen. One of aims is to see and expererience the
U.S. first hand. Not traveling in a tube from hub to hub but really
experiencing it. Given the twice annual trip back home I make, I can't
usually go on long trips but I have been exploring the Northeast corner
intensively by car.

I have been blabbering about a month-long driving trip around the country
and documenting it for awhile now. Who knows, maybe I can do that by
plane, and you can show me around Madison. There is a lot of history
there.

> get board and want to see some of my flying video's go to
> .http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mbo%20lieberman.

I am watching the night landing at KMBO now. Unfortunately, archive.org
does not always cooperate. Thank you for sharing.

Sinan
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[Morgans[_2_]]

> If you
> get board and want to see some of my flying video's go to
> .http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mbo%20lieberman. High
> bandwidth recommended and you can download the videos to your local
> computer (plays back better).

I tried getting one of the videos, and it came back saying something (4 letter
something) decompression not found. I have a brand new install of XP pro, and
was surprised that it would not play for me. What's that all about? What
format do you use to view them?
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Don Byrer" > wrote in message
...
> Glad to have ya...
> We sometimes forget how many folks may be just lurking out
> there...absorbing the info...or watching the fracas...
> Best of luck with your training.
>
> (If mxsmanic had posted an introduction along the same lines...he
> might be more welcome here.)

Nah. A schmuck is a schmuck, and they all show their true colors, after a time.
--
Jim in NC