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Mxsmanic
October 15th 06, 03:41 PM
I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
reverse thrust?

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October 15th 06, 06:34 PM
Mxsmanic wrote:
> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
> reverse thrust?
>
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If you shift it into "R" it will back up!

Emily
October 15th 06, 06:43 PM
wrote:
> Mxsmanic wrote:
>> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
>> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
>> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
>> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
>> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
>> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
>> reverse thrust?
>>
>> --
>> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
>
> If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
>
Yep! You can even do that in the air!

Peter Dohm
October 15th 06, 07:43 PM
"Emily" > wrote in message
. ..
> wrote:
> > Mxsmanic wrote:
> >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
> >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse thrust,
> >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
> >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
> >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
> >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
> >> reverse thrust?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
> >
> > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
> >
> Yep! You can even do that in the air!
Which is dangerous without a rear view miror and rear window. :-(

Steven Barnes
October 15th 06, 08:29 PM
"Peter Dohm" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Emily" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > wrote:
> > > Mxsmanic wrote:
> > >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
> > >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse
thrust,
> > >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
> > >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
> > >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is this
> > >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even mean
> > >> reverse thrust?
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
> > >
> > > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
> > >
> > Yep! You can even do that in the air!
> Which is dangerous without a rear view miror and rear window. :-(
>
>

I thought you just told the sim to increase winds on the nose to 200 kts.
Then press "." as necessary to work the brakes. That's how we back up in
real life, right? <ugh>

Viperdoc[_1_]
October 15th 06, 09:12 PM
Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and fly) by shifting into
reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward visibility is limited,
however, and I usually roll the windows down to look out.

It is a lot easier getting the plane into the hangar than using a power tug,
like a lot of single engine pilots. On the other hand, taxiing out is simply
a matter of raising the hangar door and starting both engines, and then
using the hangar door remote control to close the door after leaving. It
saves a lot of time.

Not4wood
October 15th 06, 09:16 PM
Hmmm, I see a little bit of a Troll getting slammed.

How funny is this.

All of a sudden MXSmanic, you come into a group being new here and telling
people what they need to do. Now all of a sudden you have a question? A
pretty basic question at that, isnt it???? And you actually expected a
straight answer for all the nonsense that you spit out!!! I Dont Think
So................

What goes around, comes around!!!!!!!

Not4wood
PS You will get your answer, but you will have to earn it from the group as
a whole first. Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


"Steven Barnes" > wrote in message
t...
> "Peter Dohm" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "Emily" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>> > wrote:
>> > > Mxsmanic wrote:
>> > >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch adjustment
>> > >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean reverse
> thrust,
>> > >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with the engines
>> > >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a few seconds
>> > >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a Baron? Is
>> > >> this
>> > >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or does it even
>> > >> mean
>> > >> reverse thrust?
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
>> > >
>> > > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
>> > >
>> > Yep! You can even do that in the air!
>> Which is dangerous without a rear view miror and rear window. :-(
>>
>>
>
> I thought you just told the sim to increase winds on the nose to 200 kts.
> Then press "." as necessary to work the brakes. That's how we back up in
> real life, right? <ugh>
>
>

karl gruber[_1_]
October 15th 06, 09:38 PM
Actually,

THere IS an STC for reversing props on a Baron...............the only one on
a light twin that I'm aware of.

Karl



"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and fly) by shifting into
> reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward visibility is limited,
> however, and I usually roll the windows down to look out.
>
> It is a lot easier getting the plane into the hangar than using a power
> tug, like a lot of single engine pilots. On the other hand, taxiing out is
> simply a matter of raising the hangar door and starting both engines, and
> then using the hangar door remote control to close the door after leaving.
> It saves a lot of time.
>
>
>
>

Jim Macklin
October 15th 06, 09:54 PM
Flight Safety's Lear simulator, when they first installed it
back in the late 70-early 80s would stop in flight if the
gear was down and the pilot applied the wheel brakes. You
even got the chirp of the tires.





"Emily" > wrote in message
. ..
| wrote:
| > Mxsmanic wrote:
| >> I notice that my (simulated) Baron has negative pitch
adjustment
| >> available, below the feather position. Does this mean
reverse thrust,
| >> or what? I tried setting it to -25 on the ramp with
the engines
| >> running, and each time I tried it, the engine stalled a
few seconds
| >> later. Am I supposed to be able to go backwards in a
Baron? Is this
| >> setting for reverse thrust on landing, or what? Or
does it even mean
| >> reverse thrust?
| >>
| >> --
| >> Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
| >
| > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
| >
| Yep! You can even do that in the air!

Jim Macklin
October 15th 06, 09:56 PM
I think there have been several reversing prop STC, usually
on seaplanes, such as the BE 18 and even the Aztec.



"karl gruber" > wrote in message
...
| Actually,
|
| THere IS an STC for reversing props on a
Baron...............the only one on
| a light twin that I'm aware of.
|
| Karl
|
|
|
| "Viperdoc" > wrote in message
| ...
| > Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and
fly) by shifting into
| > reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward
visibility is limited,
| > however, and I usually roll the windows down to look
out.
| >
| > It is a lot easier getting the plane into the hangar
than using a power
| > tug, like a lot of single engine pilots. On the other
hand, taxiing out is
| > simply a matter of raising the hangar door and starting
both engines, and
| > then using the hangar door remote control to close the
door after leaving.
| > It saves a lot of time.
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|

Mxsmanic
October 15th 06, 10:23 PM
"Jim Macklin" > writes:

> Flight Safety's Lear simulator, when they first installed it
> back in the late 70-early 80s would stop in flight if the
> gear was down and the pilot applied the wheel brakes. You
> even got the chirp of the tires.

I hope students were told that this occurred only in simulation.

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Mxsmanic
October 15th 06, 10:25 PM
Viperdoc writes:

> Yes, you can back up a Baron (like the one I own and fly) by shifting into
> reverse. It is the R on the switches. Rearward visibility is limited,
> however, and I usually roll the windows down to look out.

I don't see a switch marked R.

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October 15th 06, 10:25 PM
> > If you shift it into "R" it will back up!
> >
> Yep! You can even do that in the air!

Just don't forget to engage the backup alarm... beep! beep! beep!
beep! beep!

Mxsmanic
October 15th 06, 10:28 PM
karl gruber writes:

> THere IS an STC for reversing props on a Baron...............the only one on
> a light twin that I'm aware of.

What does STC stand for?

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Viperdoc[_1_]
October 15th 06, 10:49 PM
Keep looking- I just checked on my own version of MSFS and it is there.

Jim Macklin
October 15th 06, 10:58 PM
It was always more fun to fly through the TV towers near
Maize. The FS King Air sims would fly under the
runway/ground and could do spins ;like a car on ice.



"B A R R Y" > wrote in
message ...
| On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:54:05 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
| > wrote:
|
| >Flight Safety's Lear simulator, when they first installed
it
| >back in the late 70-early 80s would stop in flight if the
| >gear was down and the pilot applied the wheel brakes.
You
| >even got the chirp of the tires.
|
| AWESOME!
|
| Imagine flying an ILS, and the instructor slamming on the
brakes,
| complete with squealing tires at 2500 feet, and turning to
you and
| saying "what the heck are you doing?" <G>

Kingfish
October 16th 06, 01:52 AM
karl gruber wrote:
> Actually,
>
> THere IS an STC for reversing props on a Baron...............the only one on
> a light twin that I'm aware of.
>

Rocket Engineering in Spokane is doing PT6A conversions to Dukes and
P-Barons - you can back those up on the ramp if you were so inclined.

Dallas
October 16th 06, 08:13 AM
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:25:39 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

> I don't see a switch marked R.

It's not so much a switch as is it is push button, much like a 1957 Desoto.
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>>> Dallas <<<

cjcampbell
October 16th 06, 08:39 AM
Jim Macklin wrote:
> I think there have been several reversing prop STC, usually
> on seaplanes, such as the BE 18 and even the Aztec.
>
>
Heck, even the Seawind has a reversing prop, as does the Caravan, and
those are both single engine planes. Yes, you can back up the Caravan
on floats.

Jim Macklin
October 16th 06, 08:56 AM
Reverse was not a standard option on the Aztec and the Beech
18 with Hamilton-Standard props was required to get reverse.
I think the now have STC for modern light weight props.


"cjcampbell" > wrote in
message
oups.com...
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > I think there have been several reversing prop STC,
usually
| > on seaplanes, such as the BE 18 and even the Aztec.
| >
| >
| Heck, even the Seawind has a reversing prop, as does the
Caravan, and
| those are both single engine planes. Yes, you can back up
the Caravan
| on floats.
|

Mxsmanic
October 16th 06, 07:42 PM
Dallas writes:

> It's not so much a switch as is it is push button, much like a 1957 Desoto.

Where is it?

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Greg B
October 17th 06, 05:03 AM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Dallas writes:
>
>> It's not so much a switch as is it is push button, much like a 1957
>> Desoto.
>
> Where is it?

The R should be between the E and the T.

Or don't you use your keyboard for your sim???

Dave Stadt
October 17th 06, 05:05 AM
"Mxsmanic" > wrote in message
...
> Dallas writes:
>
>> It's not so much a switch as is it is push button, much like a 1957
>> Desoto.
>
> Where is it?

The Desoto? Probably in a junkyard.

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