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Leadfoot
October 16th 06, 09:47 AM
Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
enough to start a war.

William Black[_1_]
October 16th 06, 10:00 AM
"Leadfoot" > wrote in message
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> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
> enough to start a war.
>
He doesn't want a war.

He just wants to be left alone to oppress his people and try and blackmail
tribute from Japan and China.

He'd like to rule the South as well, but he's prepared to pass on that one.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

TOliver
October 16th 06, 05:13 PM
"William Black" > wrote in message
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> "Leadfoot" > wrote in message
> news:7GHYg.44735$nm1.21068@fed1read04...
>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>> enough to start a war.
>>
> He doesn't want a war.
>
> He just wants to be left alone to oppress his people and try and blackmail
> tribute from Japan and China.
>
> He'd like to rule the South as well, but he's prepared to pass on that
> one.
>

As often as I disagree with Wm, here he's on the right track. "Dear
Leader", ruling a country with no viable capability to become economically
self-supporting, has no real alternative but to come up with schemes by
which others can be forced, cajoled or convinced to provide subsidies.

The "we'll quit playing with nukes" ploy during the Clinton years was
certainly a successful scheme which brought substantial fulfillment of needs
from food to POL (without lessening development ofa nuclear program).

The latest chapter is simply a logical next step....almost as was SH's
"nuclear program", the "I'm packing a big hawgleg into the saloon, and
those *******s better buy my drinks." approach to international economics.

TMO

Joe Delphi
October 17th 06, 02:14 AM
"Leadfoot" > wrote in message
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> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
> enough to start a war.

Judging by the number of people in DPRK that are not able to heat their
homes because of no heating oil, I would say that he has very little.


JD

Dan[_2_]
October 17th 06, 02:31 AM
Joe Delphi wrote:
> "Leadfoot" > wrote in message
> news:7GHYg.44735$nm1.21068@fed1read04...
>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>> enough to start a war.
>
> Judging by the number of people in DPRK that are not able to heat their
> homes because of no heating oil, I would say that he has very little.
>
>
> JD
>
>

Or you could say he has enough for himself, his military and his
buddies and doesn't care to share with the rest of the country.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Keith Willshaw
October 17th 06, 08:17 AM
"Joe Delphi" > wrote in message
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> "Leadfoot" > wrote in message
> news:7GHYg.44735$nm1.21068@fed1read04...
>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>> enough to start a war.
>
> Judging by the number of people in DPRK that are not able to heat their
> homes because of no heating oil, I would say that he has very little.
>
Bad judgement, I'd lay odds that the military has more than enough
POL squirelled away for a war.

Keith

Jeroen Wenting
October 18th 06, 05:15 PM
>>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>>> enough to start a war.
>>
>> Judging by the number of people in DPRK that are not able to heat their
>> homes because of no heating oil, I would say that he has very little.
>>
>>
>> JD
>
> Or you could say he has enough for himself, his military and his
> buddies and doesn't care to share with the rest of the country.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Yes, but you'd not be a good socialist if you said that...

Jeroen Wenting
October 18th 06, 05:16 PM
"Leadfoot" > wrote in message
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> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
> enough to start a war.

He doesn't need much, he'll get everything he wants and more from China just
like in '50.

Keith W
October 18th 06, 05:42 PM
"Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message
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>
> "Leadfoot" > wrote in message
> news:7GHYg.44735$nm1.21068@fed1read04...
>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>> enough to start a war.
>
> He doesn't need much, he'll get everything he wants and more from China
> just like in '50.
>

I rather doubt that, China has been giving the DPRK
just enough fuel and food to prevent collapse. The
China of today needs access to world markets,
ultimately they value that more highly than any links
with the DPRK.

Keith

Dan[_2_]
October 18th 06, 07:18 PM
Jeroen Wenting wrote:
>>>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>>>> enough to start a war.
>>> Judging by the number of people in DPRK that are not able to heat their
>>> homes because of no heating oil, I would say that he has very little.
>>>
>>>
>>> JD
>> Or you could say he has enough for himself, his military and his
>> buddies and doesn't care to share with the rest of the country.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Yes, but you'd not be a good socialist if you said that...
>
>
Are you saying North Korea is a social disease? A few million doses
of penicillin will cure that. Come to think of it tertiary syphilis
could explain Fearless Leader's behaviour.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

John Dallman
October 18th 06, 11:22 PM
In article >,
(Keith W) wrote:

> I rather doubt that, China has been giving the DPRK
> just enough fuel and food to prevent collapse. The
> China of today needs access to world markets,
> ultimately they value that more highly than any links
> with the DPRK.

They, like South Korea, are rather keen to prevent a complete collapse
of the North Korean "economy", because that would lumber them with
millions of refugees.

---
John Dallman, , HTML mail is treated as probable spam.

mah
October 18th 06, 11:29 PM
Jeroen Wenting wrote:

> >
> > Or you could say he has enough for himself, his military and his
> > buddies and doesn't care to share with the rest of the country.
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Yes, but you'd not be a good socialist if you said that...

Now now - As said in Animal Farm

All are equal. Some are more equal than others.

Dann
October 19th 06, 12:30 PM
On 16 Oct 2006, TOliver said the following in
.

> As often as I disagree with Wm, here he's on the right track. "Dear
> Leader", ruling a country with no viable capability to become
> economically self-supporting, has no real alternative but to come up
> with schemes by which others can be forced, cajoled or convinced to
> provide subsidies.

Well, there are viable options available. Just none that include leaving
Dear Leader in charge and running things.

--
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Dann
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Jeroen Wenting
October 20th 06, 12:13 PM
"Keith W" > wrote in message
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> "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message
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>> "Leadfoot" > wrote in message
>> news:7GHYg.44735$nm1.21068@fed1read04...
>>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
>>> enough to start a war.
>>
>> He doesn't need much, he'll get everything he wants and more from China
>> just like in '50.
>>
>
> I rather doubt that, China has been giving the DPRK
> just enough fuel and food to prevent collapse. The
> China of today needs access to world markets,
> ultimately they value that more highly than any links
> with the DPRK.
>
When and if war breaks out China will supply the DPRKs with everything they
need to at the very least not loose that war, just as they did in the past.
China has face to loose, highly important in Asian societies, when their
client nation gets defeated by capitalists.
And not only that, they don't want a strong South Korea allied with Japan on
their southern border.

Tankfixer
October 29th 06, 02:44 AM
In article >, "Jeroen Wenting"
<jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> mumbled
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> "Keith W" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message
> > ...
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> >> "Leadfoot" > wrote in message
> >> news:7GHYg.44735$nm1.21068@fed1read04...
> >>> Just how much POL does "Dear Leader" have on hand assuming he's stupid
> >>> enough to start a war.
> >>
> >> He doesn't need much, he'll get everything he wants and more from China
> >> just like in '50.
> >>
> >
> > I rather doubt that, China has been giving the DPRK
> > just enough fuel and food to prevent collapse. The
> > China of today needs access to world markets,
> > ultimately they value that more highly than any links
> > with the DPRK.
> >
> When and if war breaks out China will supply the DPRKs with everything they
> need to at the very least not loose that war, just as they did in the past.
> China has face to loose, highly important in Asian societies, when their
> client nation gets defeated by capitalists.
> And not only that, they don't want a strong South Korea allied with Japan on
> their southern border.


China will do no such thing.
It would be bad for business....

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