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Gary Drescher
October 17th 06, 02:10 PM
I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd

Peter R.
October 17th 06, 02:35 PM
Gary Drescher > wrote:

> I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd

Bookmarked. Thanks for the heads-up.

--
Peter

Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
October 17th 06, 03:09 PM
Gary Drescher wrote:
> I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd


Great! Now we have pretty much everything we need in electronic format.
Excellent.

Roy Smith
October 17th 06, 03:11 PM
In article . com>,
"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote:

> Gary Drescher wrote:
> > I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> > http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>
>
> Great! Now we have pretty much everything we need in electronic format.
> Excellent.

I'm waiting for the day I can download 100LL over the net. Even better, on
a hand-held in the cockpit. Just think how much that would simplify flight
planning :-)

B A R R Y[_1_]
October 17th 06, 07:02 PM
Gary Drescher wrote:
> I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>
>


Thanks for the great tip!

B A R R Y[_1_]
October 17th 06, 07:10 PM
Roy Smith wrote:

>
> I'm waiting for the day I can download 100LL over the net.

MXMANIC has that ability. <G>

Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
October 17th 06, 07:32 PM
Roy Smith wrote:
> In article . com>,
> "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote:
>
> > Gary Drescher wrote:
> > > I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> > > http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
> >
> >
> > Great! Now we have pretty much everything we need in electronic format.
> > Excellent.
>
> I'm waiting for the day I can download 100LL over the net. Even better, on
> a hand-held in the cockpit. Just think how much that would simplify flight
> planning :-)

You mean you have been buying fuel from the FBO instead of downloading
it off the net?

Jim Burns[_1_]
October 17th 06, 08:03 PM
Priceline.com (remember when they sold gas?) meets 100LL.com meets
MSFlightSim's "auto full" switch....

just click the "always full fuel" icon on your panel and 100LL.com looks up
the cheapest price in your area and bills it to your credit card. No more
hastles refueling your plane.

Jim

JJS
October 18th 06, 01:22 AM
"Gary Drescher" > wrote in message ...
>I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>
>
>
I wouldn't rely on it too much yet. Not all airports are listed, including my home base.
Joe Schneider
8437R



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Gary Drescher
October 18th 06, 09:54 AM
"JJS" <jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net> wrote in message
...
> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
>> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>>
> I wouldn't rely on it too much yet. Not all airports are listed,
> including my home base.

Interesting. What airport is that?

--Gary

Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
October 18th 06, 10:53 AM
"JJS" <jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net> wrote in message
...
>
> I wouldn't rely on it too much yet. Not all airports are listed,
> including my home base.
>

Not all airports are in the paper A/FD either. Is your home base a
public-use airport?

mike regish
October 18th 06, 11:47 AM
This is great. Thanks.

Anybody know if this is considered a "legal" source of info, like DUATS?

mike

"Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
...
>I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>
>

Andrew Sarangan[_1_]
October 18th 06, 12:40 PM
mike regish wrote:
> This is great. Thanks.
>
> Anybody know if this is considered a "legal" source of info, like DUATS?
>
> mike
>
> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> > http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
> >
> >

If it has the correct expiry date, why would it not be legal?

mike regish
October 18th 06, 12:54 PM
Just wondering if it is official. You can go to weather sites with the
correct weather that are not considered official weather briefs.

mike

"Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> mike regish wrote:
>> This is great. Thanks.
>>
>> Anybody know if this is considered a "legal" source of info, like DUATS?
>>
>> mike
>>
>> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
>> > http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>> >
>> >
>
> If it has the correct expiry date, why would it not be legal?
>

Ron Natalie
October 18th 06, 12:58 PM
Andrew Sarangan wrote:

> If it has the correct expiry date, why would it not be legal?
>
I'm not sure why it compares with DUAT at all. The expiry
date is immaterial. Even the printed books you better follow
up with a careful check of the published and unpublished
NOTAMS for legaility.

Ron Natalie
October 18th 06, 01:15 PM
mike regish wrote:
> Just wondering if it is official. You can go to weather sites with the
> correct weather that are not considered official weather briefs.
>
> mike
>
Considered by who. The only thing the FSS and DUAT gives you is
accountability when they come back through the crash investigation
that you got certain information. Regardless of who you call
it's incumbent on you to get all the available information.

Jim Macklin
October 18th 06, 01:30 PM
This is an official government site. It even says "Do not
bookmark because the address changes with updates"

I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
I could get. It is still in development.


"mike regish" > wrote in message
. ..
| Just wondering if it is official. You can go to weather
sites with the
| correct weather that are not considered official weather
briefs.
|
| mike
|
| "Andrew Sarangan" > wrote in message
|
ps.com...
| >
| > mike regish wrote:
| >> This is great. Thanks.
| >>
| >> Anybody know if this is considered a "legal" source of
info, like DUATS?
| >>
| >> mike
| >>
| >> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in
message
| >> ...
| >> >I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online
(along with the TPPs):
| >> >
http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
| >> >
| >> >
| >
| > If it has the correct expiry date, why would it not be
legal?
| >
|
|

Matt Barrow
October 18th 06, 01:30 PM
"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
...
> mike regish wrote:
>> Just wondering if it is official. You can go to weather sites with the
>> correct weather that are not considered official weather briefs.
>>
>> mike
>>
> Considered by who. The only thing the FSS and DUAT gives you is
> accountability when they come back through the crash investigation
> that you got certain information.

As does WSI and Jeppesen.

Allen[_1_]
October 18th 06, 02:24 PM
"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:F7pZg.12783$XX2.11515@dukeread04...
> This is an official government site. It even says "Do not
> bookmark because the address changes with updates"
>
> I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
> could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
> I could get. It is still in development.
>
This is the same result I got with IE 6.0.

Allen

RST Engineering
October 18th 06, 05:58 PM
Mine is listed (California, GOO) but there is no data in the link...just a
return to the link page.

Jim



"Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
. ..
> "JJS" <jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net> wrote in message
> ...
>> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
>>> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>>>
>> I wouldn't rely on it too much yet. Not all airports are listed,
>> including my home base.
>
> Interesting. What airport is that?
>
> --Gary
>
>

RST Engineering
October 18th 06, 05:59 PM
Same error with Firefox.

Jim


"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
news:F7pZg.12783$XX2.11515@dukeread04...
> This is an official government site. It even says "Do not
> bookmark because the address changes with updates"
>
> I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
> could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
> I could get. It is still in development.

Bob Noel
October 18th 06, 06:24 PM
In article >,
"RST Engineering" > wrote:

> Same error with Firefox.

My firefox worked fine.



>
> Jim
>
>
> "Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
> news:F7pZg.12783$XX2.11515@dukeread04...
> > This is an official government site. It even says "Do not
> > bookmark because the address changes with updates"
> >
> > I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
> > could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
> > I could get. It is still in development.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

RST Engineering
October 18th 06, 07:09 PM
I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error that
Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to the
airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it does
absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there and
looks back at you.

Try GOO in California.

Jim




"T o d d P a t t i s t" > wrote in message
...
> "RST Engineering" > wrote:
>>> I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
>>> could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
>>> I could get. It is still in development.
>
>>Same error with Firefox.
>
> I run the current version of Firefox and had no trouble last
> week or today. I looked at the A/FD for a couple of states
> and several airports.
>
> I use lots of things that might change what my browser does
> as compared to yours - from extensions in Firefox (Adblock,
> Allow right click, etc.) to a proxy that modifies the
> webpages before they get to the browser, but they usually
> make it harder to access a page, not easier.
>
> What error are you seeing?
> --
> Rule books are paper - they will not cushion a sudden meeting of stone and
> metal.
>
> - Ernest K. Gann, 'Fate is the Hunter.'

Allen[_1_]
October 18th 06, 07:15 PM
"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
>I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error that
>Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to the
>airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it does
>absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there and
>looks back at you.
>
> Try GOO in California.
>
> Jim

This is the error I get with IE 6.0 SP2, same symptons as Jim:

Line: 208

Character: 9

Error: No such interface supported

Code: 0

URL:
http://www.naco.faa.gov/afd.asp?cycle=afd_september&eff=09-28-2006&end=11-23-2006#

I did forward this to the webmaster.

Allen

Allen[_1_]
October 18th 06, 07:33 PM
"Allen" > wrote in message
om...
>
> "RST Engineering" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error
>>that Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to
>>the airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it
>>does absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there
>>and looks back at you.
>>
>> Try GOO in California.
>>
>> Jim
>
> This is the error I get with IE 6.0 SP2, same symptons as Jim:
>
> Line: 208
>
> Character: 9
>
> Error: No such interface supported
>
> Code: 0
>
> URL:
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/afd.asp?cycle=afd_september&eff=09-28-2006&end=11-23-2006#
>
> I did forward this to the webmaster.
>
> Allen
>

Sorry Jim, this was for Todd!

Allen

Gary Drescher
October 18th 06, 07:34 PM
"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> Mine is listed (California, GOO) but there is no data in the link...just a
> return to the link page.

Selecting GOO gets me a link to the A/DF pdf page:
http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/sw_84_23SEP2006.pdf

--Gary


> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> "JJS" <jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
>>>> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd
>>>>
>>> I wouldn't rely on it too much yet. Not all airports are listed,
>>> including my home base.
>>
>> Interesting. What airport is that?
>>
>> --Gary
>>
>>
>
>

Allen[_1_]
October 18th 06, 08:18 PM
"T o d d P a t t i s t" > wrote in message
...
> "RST Engineering" > wrote:
>
> >I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error
that
> >Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to the
> >airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it does
> >absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there and
> >looks back at you.
> >
> >Try GOO in California.
>
> It works fine. Here is the GOO link:
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/sw_84_23SEP2006.pdf
>
> I'm going to the link page, then going to the page that has
> the U.S. map, then selecting a state by either choosing the
> drop down list or clicking the state, then hitting the
> search button. I'm leaving the:
> Airport ID:
> Airport City:
> Airport Name:
> NAVAID:
> all set to "ALL"
> it then lists all airports for that state at the bottom of
> the page with the U.S. map still at the top and I choose the
> one I want. When you run your mouse over the "View" or "PDF"
> at the right side of the page opposite the airport, the link
> to the PDF should appear in the lower right corner of
> Firefox.
>
> Where does it break in that process for you?
>
I do the exact same sequence as you, when I hit "Search" it immediately puts
the error on page warning at the bottom and does nothing further.

Allen

john smith
October 18th 06, 09:26 PM
In article >,
"Allen" > wrote:

> "T o d d P a t t i s t" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "RST Engineering" > wrote:
> >
> > >I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error
> that
> > >Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to the
> > >airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it does
> > >absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there and
> > >looks back at you.
> > >
> > >Try GOO in California.
> >
> > It works fine. Here is the GOO link:
> > http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/sw_84_23SEP2006.pdf
> >
> > I'm going to the link page, then going to the page that has
> > the U.S. map, then selecting a state by either choosing the
> > drop down list or clicking the state, then hitting the
> > search button. I'm leaving the:
> > Airport ID:
> > Airport City:
> > Airport Name:
> > NAVAID:
> > all set to "ALL"
> > it then lists all airports for that state at the bottom of
> > the page with the U.S. map still at the top and I choose the
> > one I want. When you run your mouse over the "View" or "PDF"
> > at the right side of the page opposite the airport, the link
> > to the PDF should appear in the lower right corner of
> > Firefox.
> >
> > Where does it break in that process for you?
> >
> I do the exact same sequence as you, when I hit "Search" it immediately puts
> the error on page warning at the bottom and does nothing further.

Firefox worked for me today.
Yesterday I was getting messages that the information was not available.

Jim Macklin
October 18th 06, 09:31 PM
They say that IE should work, other browsers support coming,
but I think the site needs more work in general.


"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
| Same error with Firefox.
|
| Jim
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" > wrote
in message
| news:F7pZg.12783$XX2.11515@dukeread04...
| > This is an official government site. It even says "Do
not
| > bookmark because the address changes with updates"
| >
| > I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6.
I
| > could get to the state selection page but that was as
far as
| > I could get. It is still in development.
|
|

Jim Macklin
October 18th 06, 09:34 PM
no problem... The site will get fixed and it will work with
all browsers some day, until then, just keep trying.

I didn't even get a pop-up blocker message, jus "error on
page"



"Allen" > wrote in message
om...
|
| "Allen" > wrote in message
| om...
| >
| > "RST Engineering" > wrote in
message
| > ...
| >>I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting
the same error
| >>that Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page,
you can get to
| >>the airport page, but when you click on the airport to
get the data, it
| >>does absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page
just sits there
| >>and looks back at you.
| >>
| >> Try GOO in California.
| >>
| >> Jim
| >
| > This is the error I get with IE 6.0 SP2, same symptons
as Jim:
| >
| > Line: 208
| >
| > Character: 9
| >
| > Error: No such interface supported
| >
| > Code: 0
| >
| > URL:
| >
http://www.naco.faa.gov/afd.asp?cycle=afd_september&eff=09-28-2006&end=11-23-2006#
| >
| > I did forward this to the webmaster.
| >
| > Allen
| >
|
| Sorry Jim, this was for Todd!
|
| Allen
|
|

mike regish
October 18th 06, 11:56 PM
Bingo. Now you get it. I think. If I get into some kind of incident adn all
I have is copy of the pages I needed from the online AFD, will that be
regarde as having the legally regarded info or not?

Simple question. If you don't know, then don't answer.

If you do, a simple yes or no would suffice.

mikie
"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
...
> mike regish wrote:
>> Just wondering if it is official. You can go to weather sites with the
>> correct weather that are not considered official weather briefs.
>>
>> mike
>>
> Considered by who. The only thing the FSS and DUAT gives you is
> accountability when they come back through the crash investigation
> that you got certain information. Regardless of who you call
> it's incumbent on you to get all the available information.

mike regish
October 18th 06, 11:58 PM
I have IE 6 and I got my local field. Didn't go much beyond that, but it
seemed to work ok.

mike

"Allen" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
> news:F7pZg.12783$XX2.11515@dukeread04...
>> This is an official government site. It even says "Do not
>> bookmark because the address changes with updates"
>>
>> I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
>> could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
>> I could get. It is still in development.
>>
> This is the same result I got with IE 6.0.
>
> Allen
>

Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
October 19th 06, 12:34 AM
"mike regish" > wrote in message
...
>
> Bingo. Now you get it. I think. If I get into some kind of incident adn
> all I have is copy of the pages I needed from the online AFD, will that be
> regarde as having the legally regarded info or not?
>
> Simple question. If you don't know, then don't answer.
>
> If you do, a simple yes or no would suffice.
>

Yes.

mike regish
October 19th 06, 01:01 AM
Thank you.

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
>
> "mike regish" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Bingo. Now you get it. I think. If I get into some kind of incident adn
>> all I have is copy of the pages I needed from the online AFD, will that
>> be regarde as having the legally regarded info or not?
>>
>> Simple question. If you don't know, then don't answer.
>>
>> If you do, a simple yes or no would suffice.
>>
>
> Yes.
>

.Blueskies.
October 19th 06, 02:09 AM
Looks like you need to run the active X control...


"Allen" > wrote in message om...
:
: "Allen" > wrote in message
: om...
: >
: > "RST Engineering" > wrote in message
: > ...
: >>I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error
: >>that Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to
: >>the airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it
: >>does absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there
: >>and looks back at you.
: >>
: >> Try GOO in California.
: >>
: >> Jim
: >
: > This is the error I get with IE 6.0 SP2, same symptons as Jim:
: >
: > Line: 208
: >
: > Character: 9
: >
: > Error: No such interface supported
: >
: > Code: 0
: >
: > URL:
: > http://www.naco.faa.gov/afd.asp?cycle=afd_september&eff=09-28-2006&end=11-23-2006#
: >
: > I did forward this to the webmaster.
: >
: > Allen
: >
:
: Sorry Jim, this was for Todd!
:
: Allen
:
:

JJS
October 19th 06, 03:44 AM
"Gary Drescher" > wrote in message
. ..
SNIP
>
> Interesting. What airport is that?
>
> --Gary
>
>


WWR



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JJS
October 19th 06, 03:45 AM
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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>
> "JJS" <jschneider@remove socks cebridge.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I wouldn't rely on it too much yet. Not all airports are listed,
>> including my home base.
>>
>
> Not all airports are in the paper A/FD either. Is your home base a
> public-use airport?


Yes, WWR
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Gig 601XL Builder
October 19th 06, 03:54 PM
"Allen" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
> news:F7pZg.12783$XX2.11515@dukeread04...
>> This is an official government site. It even says "Do not
>> bookmark because the address changes with updates"
>>
>> I tried the site and had errors on the page using IE6. I
>> could get to the state selection page but that was as far as
>> I could get. It is still in development.
>>
> This is the same result I got with IE 6.0.
>
> Allen
>

Worked for me with IE 6.0

Jose[_1_]
October 22nd 06, 08:37 PM
> Hitting the "Search" button runs javascript and the error
> message you see is a js error. You may want to make sure
> that you have js turned on and aren't running some type of
> blocking program.

I'd like to see the entire book online as text and image (not bloated
PDF) so I can put it in my palm and take it with me everywhere. The
places I need access to the thing rarely have web access. For those
that do, there are plenty of better sources.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

john smith
October 22nd 06, 11:08 PM
In article >,
Jose > wrote:

> > Hitting the "Search" button runs javascript and the error
> > message you see is a js error. You may want to make sure
> > that you have js turned on and aren't running some type of
> > blocking program.
>
> I'd like to see the entire book online as text and image (not bloated
> PDF) so I can put it in my palm and take it with me everywhere. The
> places I need access to the thing rarely have web access. For those
> that do, there are plenty of better sources.

Not a problem with an iPod.

October 23rd 06, 03:53 AM
Jose > wrote:
> I'd like to see the entire book online as text and image (not bloated
> PDF) so I can put it in my palm and take it with me everywhere.

I tried running pdftotext and pdfimages on the file for the local airport.
pdftotext -layout produces a fairly recognizeable text file; the main
oddity is that some of the text comes out with extra spaces in it, such
as "RADIO AIDS TO NAVIGATION: N O T A M F I L E T U L ." pdfimages
produces nothing, which probably means that the airport diagrams are in
some kind of vector format instead of a raster format. pdftoppm renders
the whole page into a raster image; if the diagrams are in a predictable
place on the page, the process of cropping the diagram out of the page
and saving it by itself could be automated. All of these programs are
part of xpdf ( http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ ); xpdf is a PDF viewer and
set of utilities for Xwindows but the utilities are also available for
legacy systems.

FWIW, I had no problems using the site with Firefox 1.5.0.7 on Linux, at
least to look up a few different airports in the state. It does want to
set one "ASPSESSIONID..." cookie at the beginning, but doesn't appear to
set any others. If the search doesn't work, the URLs of the PDFs appear
to be of the form

http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/RR_N_DDMMMYYYY.pdf

where RR is an FAA region, such as "sc" for south central, "sw" for
southwest, etc. N is something like a page number; it seems to start at
1 and go up from there. The actual page number as displayed on screen
seems to be 19 + N. N is not zero-padded; the first file is _1_, the
tenth file is _10_, the hundredth file is _100_, etc. DDMMMYYYY is the
beginning of the update cycle, such as "23SEP2006". The URLs for the
Legend and Supplemental pages appear to be of the form

http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/RR_front_DDMMMYYYY.pdf (Legend)
http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/RR_back_DDMMMYYYY.pdf (Supplemental)

where RR and DDMMMYYYY are as above. However, at least in the case of
"sc", these two files are dated 28SEP but the main content files are
dated 23SEP. If you look at the first displayed page number in the
Supplemental PDF and subtract 20, you should theoretically get the last
valid N for the main content. At least for "sc", that didn't quite work;
the Supplemental starts on page 359, which would imply that the last main
content page would be http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/sc_339_23SEP2006.pdf ,
but the last main content page is really
http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/sc_337_23SEP2006.pdf . This has to be done
by experiment, because you can't get at http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/
directly.

You will know if you've asked for an invalid file name in an interactive
Web browser, because the server goes into an amusing loop. In the
interest of science, I let it rip and it got to
http://www.naco.faa.gov/pdfs/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/iis/misc/default.asp
before I stopped it.

The above information can be combined with your favorite scripting
language and http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/software/pdf-append.php (I used
the Ghostscript way) to make what some may actually want, which is one
PDF with multiple pages in it.

Matt Roberds

cjcampbell
October 23rd 06, 05:19 AM
Gary Drescher wrote:
> I just noticed that NACO now has the A/FD online (along with the TPPs):
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=naco/online/d_afd

Wonderful!

mike regish
October 23rd 06, 11:51 AM
It is if it's full of music.

I knew I should have gotten the 60 gig...

mike

"john smith" > wrote in message
news:jsmith-71B0D1.18060322102006@network-065-024-007->>

>> I'd like to see the entire book online as text and image (not bloated
>> PDF) so I can put it in my palm and take it with me everywhere. >

> Not a problem with an iPod.

Mxsmanic
October 26th 06, 11:47 PM
Jose writes:

> I'd like to see the entire book online as text and image (not bloated
> PDF) so I can put it in my palm and take it with me everywhere. The
> places I need access to the thing rarely have web access. For those
> that do, there are plenty of better sources.

PDF is probably the most compact way to represent a book in its
original format.

--
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cjcampbell
October 27th 06, 11:23 AM
RST Engineering wrote:
> I run the current version of FIrefox also. I'm getting the same error that
> Macklin is getting. You can get to the state page, you can get to the
> airport page, but when you click on the airport to get the data, it does
> absolutely nothing. No movement, no data, the page just sits there and
> looks back at you.
>
> Try GOO in California.

Worked fine for me with Firefox 2.0 on a Mac in the Philippines. The
search is very fast; the page may appear to just sit there and look
back at you, but you have to scroll down to see the search results.

Jose[_1_]
October 28th 06, 05:28 PM
> I've
> used Lynx and a command line script to pull down the whole
> thing, then Acrobat to assemble [the AF/D] as a single pdf file.

How big is this file?

Jose
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it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

October 28th 06, 06:13 PM
Jose > wrote:
>> I've
>> used Lynx and a command line script to pull down the whole
>> thing, then Acrobat to assemble [the AF/D] as a single pdf file.
>
> How big is this file?

I did just the south central region and that came out to about 30 meg.

Matt Roberds

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