View Full Version : Grunau Baby versus Eta?
Bob Kuykendall
November 3rd 06, 11:55 PM
Just kidding.
Move along, nothing to see here.
Bob K.
November 4th 06, 02:33 AM
On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" > wrote:
> Just kidding.
>
> Move along, nothing to see here.
>
> Bob K.
Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
See ya, Dave
Udo
November 4th 06, 02:40 AM
wrote:
> On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" > wrote:
> > Just kidding.
> >
> > Move along, nothing to see here.
> >
> > Bob K.
>
> Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
> See ya, Dave
No, he is just coming up for air.
Have fun
Udo
Tony[_1_]
November 4th 06, 03:31 AM
All the Baby needs is a weak day and it will knock the pants off the
Eta!
Go crappy gliders!
Udo wrote:
> wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" > wrote:
> > > Just kidding.
> > >
> > > Move along, nothing to see here.
> > >
> > > Bob K.
> >
> > Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
> > See ya, Dave
> No, he is just coming up for air.
> Have fun
> Udo
Bruce Greef
November 4th 06, 09:29 AM
Tony wrote:
> All the Baby needs is a weak day and it will knock the pants off the
> Eta!
>
> Go crappy gliders!
>
> Udo wrote:
>
wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just kidding.
>>>>
>>>>Move along, nothing to see here.
>>>>
>>>>Bob K.
>>>
>>>Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
>>>See ya, Dave
>>
>>No, he is just coming up for air.
>>Have fun
>>Udo
>
>
There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
There are state of the art super ships, and high performance racers, and
dependable club planes and gracefully ageing classics and collectable vintage.
Derelicts are just an opportunity to convert into one of the above. ;-)
Bruce
Owner of a well used , gracefully ageing shiny Cirrus - 36 years old and still a
thing of beauty - and it can out climb many of those top racers too. Some
advantages to lower wing loading, even if they disappear at warp speed when the
wings roll level...
kirk.stant
November 6th 06, 10:41 PM
> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>
> There are state of the art super ships, and high performance racers, and
> dependable club planes and gracefully ageing classics and collectable vintage.
>
> Derelicts are just an opportunity to convert into one of the above. ;-)
>
> Bruce
> Owner of a well used , gracefully ageing shiny Cirrus - 36 years old and still a
> thing of beauty - and it can out climb many of those top racers too. Some
> advantages to lower wing loading, even if they disappear at warp speed when the
> wings roll level...
1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
painted in neat colors...
2. In a real world "stay up" contest, I think low sink rate will often
trump low wing loading. My money would be on the Eta...
3. A well flown Cirrus is tough to stay with in a thermal!
Finally, 4. You don't know till you try - so everybody should launch
more often on weak days or early in the day and find out! There is
nothing like an hour of grinding around below pattern altitude to
sharpen one's thermalling skills - especially with a little wind to
make it interesting!
66
Graeme Cant
November 7th 06, 12:02 PM
kirk.stant wrote:
>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>
> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
> painted in neat colors...
These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/
GC
Derek Copeland
November 7th 06, 05:33 PM
A few years ago a gent from Hus Bos was leading the
UK National Ladder (equivalent to the OLC) for a month
or two flying a Slingsby Tutor, which has even worse
performance than the Grunau Baby. A lot of hot glass
ship owners were really shown up by this!
Unfortunately the powers that be (glass ship owners?)
then changed the rules of the ladder to make a repeat
of this situation almost impossible! However it shows
what can be done in vintage gliders if you put your
mind to it.
Derek Copeland
At 12:06 07 November 2006, Graeme Cant wrote:
>kirk.stant wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>>
>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character,
>>are usually
>> painted in neat colors...
>
Derek Copeland
November 7th 06, 05:40 PM
A few years ago a gent from Hus Bos was leading the
UK National Ladder (equivalent to the OLC) for a month
or two flying a Slingsby Tutor, which has even worse
performance than the Grunau Baby. A lot of hot glass
ship owners were really shown up by this!
Unfortunately the powers that be (glass ship owners?)
then changed the rules of the ladder to make a repeat
of this situation almost impossible! However it shows
what can be done in vintage gliders if you put your
mind to it.
Derek Copeland
At 12:06 07 November 2006, Graeme Cant wrote:
>kirk.stant wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>>
>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character,
>>are usually
>> painted in neat colors...
>
kirk.stant
November 7th 06, 05:42 PM
Derek Copeland wrote:
> A few years ago a gent from Hus Bos was leading the
> UK National Ladder (equivalent to the OLC) for a month
> or two flying a Slingsby Tutor, which has even worse
> performance than the Grunau Baby. A lot of hot glass
> ship owners were really shown up by this!
>
> Unfortunately the powers that be (glass ship owners?)
> then changed the rules of the ladder to make a repeat
> of this situation almost impossible! However it shows
> what can be done in vintage gliders if you put your
> mind to it.
>
Yep, a glider (or a pilot) that flies is going to beat one that doesn't
every time! Or like we used to say in the fighter business, "Hamburger
in any wrapper is still hamburger"!
Cheers
66
Paul Remde
November 9th 06, 02:50 AM
Hi,
The links below are great! But my favorite paint scheme is this one.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~henk.vander.heijden/eng/weilandexp/weilandexp.htm
Good Soaring,
Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
"Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message
...
> kirk.stant wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>>
>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
>> painted in neat colors...
>
> These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/
>
> GC
Paul Remde
November 9th 06, 02:54 AM
Here's another great glider paint scheme.
http://home.hetnet.nl/~henk.vander.heijden/web-albums/A%20walk%20around%20the%20glider/index.html
Paul Remde
"Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message
...
> kirk.stant wrote:
>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>>
>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
>> painted in neat colors...
>
> These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/
>
> GC
Graeme Cant
November 9th 06, 03:27 AM
Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The links below are great! But my favorite paint scheme is this one.
> http://home.hetnet.nl/~henk.vander.heijden/eng/weilandexp/weilandexp.htm
>
> Good Soaring,
>
> Paul Remde
Great! Last weekend we were looking at a glider trailer which needed
repainting and wondered about painting it as a canal boat with windows,
window boxes and geraniums. Then we thought about possible scenes in
the windows... :)
GC
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
>
> "Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message
> ...
>> kirk.stant wrote:
>>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
>>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
>>> painted in neat colors...
>> These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
>> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
>> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
>> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
>> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
>> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/
>>
>> GC
>
>
01-- Zero One
November 9th 06, 02:44 PM
C'mon guys!!! We hit the pinnacle in WWII with the nose art on the
bombers! Now we have regressed to caricatures of penguins, goofy birds,
and pool cues!!!!????
Let's at least get back to some suggestive, scantily clad women on the
sides of our trailers and planes!
:-)
Larry
"Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message
:
> Paul Remde wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The links below are great! But my favorite paint scheme is this one.
> > http://home.hetnet.nl/~henk.vander.heijden/eng/weilandexp/weilandexp.htm
> >
> > Good Soaring,
> >
> > Paul Remde
>
> Great! Last weekend we were looking at a glider trailer which needed
> repainting and wondered about painting it as a canal boat with windows,
> window boxes and geraniums. Then we thought about possible scenes in
> the windows... :)
>
> GC
>
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
> >
> > "Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> kirk.stant wrote:
> >>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
> >>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
> >>> painted in neat colors...
> >> These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/
> >>
> >> GC
> >
> >
Bob Kuykendall
November 9th 06, 05:25 PM
Paul Remde wrote:
> Here's another great glider paint scheme.
>
> http://home.hetnet.nl/~henk.vander.heijden/web-albums/A%20walk%20around%20the%20glider/index.html
Cool! Note that it's the same glider as the Weiland Express, PH-314.
Bob K.
Paul Remde
November 10th 06, 09:00 PM
Hi,
I'm not going to name names, but I have seen some snapshots of some sexy artwork hidden on the INSIDE of the turtledeck of a 1-26. I must say, I'm in favor of nose art... at least on aircraft.
Paul Remde
"01-- Zero One" > wrote in message . ..
C'mon guys!!! We hit the pinnacle in WWII with the nose art on the bombers! Now we have regressed to caricatures of penguins, goofy birds, and pool cues!!!!????
Let's at least get back to some suggestive, scantily clad women on the sides of our trailers and planes!
J
Larry
"Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message :
> Paul Remde wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The links below are great! But my favorite paint scheme is this one.
> > http://home.hetnet.nl/~henk.vander.heijden/eng/weilandexp/weilandexp.htm
> >
> > Good Soaring,
> >
> > Paul Remde
>
> Great! Last weekend we were looking at a glider trailer which needed
> repainting and wondered about painting it as a canal boat with windows,
> window boxes and geraniums. Then we thought about possible scenes in
> the windows... :)
>
> GC
>
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
> >
> > "Graeme Cant" <gcantinter@tnodedotnet> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> kirk.stant wrote:
> >>>> There is no such thing as a crappy glider.
> >>> 1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
> >>> painted in neat colors...
> >> These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
> >> http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/
> >>
> >> GC
> >
> >
CLewis95
November 10th 06, 09:38 PM
Paul,
"Luscious Laura" maybe? ... I got to fly her once.....
Curt - 95
On Nov 10, 3:00 pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not going to name names, but I have seen some snapshots of some sexy artwork hidden on the INSIDE of the turtledeck of a 1-26. I must say, I'm in favor of nose art... at least on aircraft.
>
> Paul Remde
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