Soooo, what is the best plane to build around a corvair engine?

[Lou]

Well?

[Rich S.[_1_]]

"Lou" > wrote in message
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> Well?
>

Logically, it should be a pusher . . .

Rich "Put the Force in your rear" S.

[Dave]

Why don't you decide what features you want and need in an aircraft first.
Then once you have defined the mission look around for an aircraft that
fulfills that mission, fits within the price range you have in mind and that
you are capable of building and flying. Then see if it will accept a forty
year old car engine.


"Lou" > wrote in message
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> Well?
>

[Greg Piney]

Lou wrote:
> Well?
>
Hot off the Presses

http://corvaircruiser.com/

[xorbit]

Lou wrote:

> Well?
>

Yes, the famous main bearing cracker engine.

[Lou]

That is the first 500lb useful load single place I've ever seen.
It would be a great 2 place.


On Nov 4, 2:51 pm, Greg Piney > wrote:
> Lou wrote:
> > Well?Hot off the Presses
>
> http://corvaircruiser.com/

[Peter Dohm]

Not to avoid your question, but ...

There is a lot to like about the Corvair engine(s), and also some things not
to like. I really like the idea of the 6 cylinder smoothness. However,
like the VW, you are usually starting with a very old engine. From time to
time, I have heard rumors that heads and crankcases are still made for
Corvair engines; but I have never been able to locate a source, and for me
that is sufficient discouragement. In addition, the engines were not
originally developed to turn a propeller cantelevered on the end of the
crankshaft--although there may be "workarounds" similar to the drive Steve
Wittman used or his Formula-Vee racer or to the outwardly similar "rear
drive" for the WV derived Great Plains engines. And, if you choose that
route, you might also need to design a bed-mount...

Anyway, the some of the real Corvair affectionados probably congregate
around William Wynne's web site: http://www.flycorvair.com/ and there
appears to be some discussion of airframes. There were a number of designs
back when the Corvairs were still fairly common (as cars), but the only one
that I personally recall is the KR-2. Plans are still sold, but it is only
a 2 seater if all the occupants light and of small stature. So, like all of
the homebuilts, either find one to sit in or else build a cabin mock-up
including seats and cushions before you build anything else!

I hope this helps.

Peter

[Dan Settle]

Basic rules.
1. horse goes in front of the cart.
2. Airframe first, engine second

Builders will consider several engines while construcitng the airframe.

Before committing to an airframe come up with the mission statement.
"Lou" > wrote in message
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> Well?
>

[Stealth Pilot]

On 4 Nov 2006 15:13:45 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:

>
>That is the first 500lb useful load single place I've ever seen.
>It would be a great 2 place.
>
have a look at the sonerai
stealth Pilot

[jls]

Lou wrote:
> Well?

Since that engine is a natural-born assbuster, the slowest thing you
can build.

Pietenpol, maybe?

[Jim Stewart]

Lou wrote:
> Well?

Personally, if I were to pick the engine first,
I'd pick a Subaru.

[Roger (K8RI)]

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:19:51 +0800, Stealth Pilot
> wrote:

>On 4 Nov 2006 15:13:45 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:
>
>>
>>That is the first 500lb useful load single place I've ever seen.
>>It would be a great 2 place.
>>
>have a look at the sonerai

Sonerai and Sonex although I have to admit the Corvair powered
"Personal Cruiser" is a much nicer looking plane.

We have one Jabaru Powered Sonex and another group is just finishing
up a VW powered one.

I don't remember what's in the Sonerai, but I think it was a Corvair
engine. He was parked right next to the Deb in the T-hangar while he
was building it, but I don't remember for sure.

I've mentioned it before, but I think we have 17 active (under
construction) projects in our chapter at present.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Lou]

On Nov 4, 8:55 pm, "Dan Settle" > wrote:
> Basic rules.
> 1. horse goes in front of the cart.
> 2. Airframe first, engine second
>
> I

I agree, these are basic rules. Sometimes it's good to think outside
the box. Here we have a good engine that doesn't cost
an are and a leg, so why not design a plane around it rather than
design the engine to fit the plane?
Lou

[Stealth Pilot]

On 5 Nov 2006 09:03:52 -0800, "jls" > wrote:

>
>Lou wrote:
>> Well?
>
>Since that engine is a natural-born assbuster, the slowest thing you
>can build.
>

they are like vw conversions. up to a particular stress level the
conversion preforms admirably.
however push them past the stress level and you discover why the
continental o-200 looks distinctively different. it was designed for
the stress levels.

lou needs to research the engine conversion's history. I'm sure that
william wynne can point him to a successful style of use that the
engine can handle.

Stealth Pilot

[Stealth Pilot]

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:20:09 -0500, "Roger (K8RI)"
> wrote:

>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:19:51 +0800, Stealth Pilot
> wrote:
>
>>On 4 Nov 2006 15:13:45 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>That is the first 500lb useful load single place I've ever seen.
>>>It would be a great 2 place.
>>>
>>have a look at the sonerai
>
>Sonerai and Sonex although I have to admit the Corvair powered
>"Personal Cruiser" is a much nicer looking plane.
>
> We have one Jabaru Powered Sonex and another group is just finishing
>up a VW powered one.
>
>I don't remember what's in the Sonerai, but I think it was a Corvair
>engine. He was parked right next to the Deb in the T-hangar while he
>was building it, but I don't remember for sure.
>
>I've mentioned it before, but I think we have 17 active (under
>construction) projects in our chapter at present.
>
>Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
>(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
>www.rogerhalstead.com


the challenge for the rest of the chapter is to urge, cajole and
mollycoddle those projects to completion.

those who just sit around and urge sometimes have the hardest task :-)

damn good effort though.
Stealth Pilot

[Roger (K8RI)]

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:51:26 +0800, Stealth Pilot
> wrote:

>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:20:09 -0500, "Roger (K8RI)"
> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 19:19:51 +0800, Stealth Pilot
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 4 Nov 2006 15:13:45 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is the first 500lb useful load single place I've ever seen.
>>>>It would be a great 2 place.
>>>>
>>>have a look at the sonerai
>>
>>Sonerai and Sonex although I have to admit the Corvair powered
>>"Personal Cruiser" is a much nicer looking plane.
>>
>> We have one Jabaru Powered Sonex and another group is just finishing
>>up a VW powered one.
>>
>>I don't remember what's in the Sonerai, but I think it was a Corvair
>>engine. He was parked right next to the Deb in the T-hangar while he
>>was building it, but I don't remember for sure.
>>
>>I've mentioned it before, but I think we have 17 active (under
>>construction) projects in our chapter at present.
>>
>>Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
>>(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
>>www.rogerhalstead.com
>
>
>the challenge for the rest of the chapter is to urge, cajole and
>mollycoddle those projects to completion.
>
>those who just sit around and urge sometimes have the hardest task :-)

Particularly if they are spouses.<;-))

Probably about half of those projects are pretty well along with at
least 3 if not 4 or 5 are in the final assembly stage. I think that
is the 90% done, 90% to go part.

There is a turbocharged Glasair III that is almost ready to fly, a
Super II that is in final assembly. The 4-passenger version of the
longEZ (can't seem to remember the name of that one) is also in final
assembly. The two Sonex are in final assembly. There are at least 7
or 8 projects already flying in addition to those 17.
>
>damn good effort though.
>Stealth Pilot
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Roger (K8RI)" > wrote

> There is a turbocharged Glasair III that is almost ready to fly, a
> Super II that is in final assembly. The 4-passenger version of the
> longEZ (can't seem to remember the name of that one) is also in final
> assembly.

Cozy? Velocity?

[Gig 601XL Builder]

"Lou" > wrote in message
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> Well?
>

Have you visited William Wynne's sit www.flycorvair.com? The Zenith 601XL is
what I'm going to have dragged around by a Corvair engine.

[clare at snyder.on.ca]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 08:31:25 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote:

>
>"Lou" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Well?
>>
>
>Have you visited William Wynne's sit www.flycorvair.com? The Zenith 601XL is
>what I'm going to have dragged around by a Corvair engine.
>
How about a Pegazair 100? (high wing taildragger STOL)

--
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[Roger (K8RI)]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 03:02:15 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Roger (K8RI)" > wrote
>
>> There is a turbocharged Glasair III that is almost ready to fly, a
>> Super II that is in final assembly. The 4-passenger version of the
>> longEZ (can't seem to remember the name of that one) is also in final
>> assembly.
>
>Cozy? Velocity?

That's it! Velocity. Nice looking job so far too.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Roger (K8RI)" > wrote

> That's it! Velocity. Nice looking job so far too.

Slick, fast on little power, and comfortable. Not a soft short field airplane,
but it certainly fills the role of cross country cruising.
--
Jim in NC

[Roger (K8RI)]

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:45:35 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>
>"Roger (K8RI)" > wrote
>
>> That's it! Velocity. Nice looking job so far too.
>
>Slick, fast on little power, and comfortable. Not a soft short field airplane,
>but it certainly fills the role of cross country cruising.

I flew to Oshkosh in formation with a Cozy from Midland a number of
times. One time we were turning final for 36 together which is where I
put the gear down for that one. It looked like I had put on the
brakes. I think his touch down speed was about equal to my over the
fence speed. It may not have been quite that high but it sure seemed
like it and he easily used twice the runway I did.<:-))
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com