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.Blueskies.
November 7th 06, 11:19 PM
The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...

Bob Noel
November 8th 06, 12:11 AM
In article >,
".Blueskies." > wrote:

> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long
> flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...

I do, except when just in the pattern.

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Leonard Ellis
November 8th 06, 01:19 AM
I almost always monitor guard (121.5 MHz) on one of the two transceivers in
our C172 when I'm clear of the DFW Class B. Other than hearing people who
mistakenly talk on guard (and those who respond "xxx, you're on GUARD!", I
primarily hear TRACONs warning people who are about to bust the TFR around
the President, mostly near his place near Crawford, Texas. I don't recall
hearing any of those people respond on guard, but it certainly reminds me to
respect that airspace on the way to Granny's house or to see our daughter in
San Marcos.

I was trained to listen to Guard by the US Army. It came in handy for me
several times in Vietnam when people came to my aid and I was able to return
the favor a couple of times myself. In my opinion, it is always a good
thing to monitor 121.5 so please get yourself into the habit of doing so.

Cheers,
Leonard

".Blueskies." > wrote in message
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> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long
> flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...
>
>

City Dweller[_1_]
November 8th 06, 02:07 AM
I do it whenever I can't think of a better frequency to monitor. I even put
this habit of mine to good use once. Well, kind of.

I was once flying from Boston to New York when I heard some guy trying to
reach his airport's ground service on this frequency, apparently by mistake.
There was no response and the guy was audibly getting frustrated.

"XYZ Ground, Cessna 123AB... XYZ Ground, this is Cessna 123AB... XYZ Ground,
do you copy?" and so on.

So I decided to be a good samaritan. I keyed the mike and said "sir, this is
the emergency frequency." The 123AB guy obviously took the hint as there
were no more frantic calls from him on 121.5.

-- city dweller


".Blueskies." > wrote in message
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> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long
> flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...
>
>

Capt.Doug
November 8th 06, 02:28 AM
>".Blueskies." wrote in message > The Maydays post got me wondering. I
don't monitor except
>during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...

Many of today's modern airliners keep a receiver tuned on guard freq.

D.

Brad[_1_]
November 8th 06, 04:23 AM
..Blueskies. wrote:
> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...

Flying traffic reporters deep in the FRZ around the DC Beltway, I'm
always on an ATC frequency and monitoring air-to-air on the #2. If I
had a third comm...

John T[_2_]
November 8th 06, 12:49 PM
".Blueskies." > wrote in message

>
> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the
> long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...

Every time I fly. It's pretty much de rigeur in/around the DC ADIZ.

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Ron Natalie
November 8th 06, 01:24 PM
..Blueskies. wrote:
> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...
>
>
I listen to 121.5 because I fly in dangerous (DC Area)
airspace. The most I've ever heard other than intercepts
going on is a lost student pilot talking to Flight Service
(they got her a squawk code and approach located her).

The one chilling MAYDAY I did here was on the Gary tower
frequency.

Ron Natalie
November 8th 06, 01:26 PM
Brad wrote:
> .Blueskies. wrote:
>> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...
>
> Flying traffic reporters deep in the FRZ around the DC Beltway, I'm
> always on an ATC frequency and monitoring air-to-air on the #2. If I
> had a third comm...
>
Actually the SL30 (and the GNS480 which uses the same comm section)
can monitor the standby frequency. I can listen to 4 frequencies.
Even when I'm picking up the ATIS or something on #2, I've got 121.5
in the M channel.

Ross Richardson[_2_]
November 8th 06, 01:56 PM
..Blueskies. wrote:
> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...
>
>

I do not since my Narco MK-12Ds unsquelch that frequency only and I
would have to listen to the noise.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

Roy Smith
November 8th 06, 02:13 PM
In article >,
Ron Natalie > wrote:

> Brad wrote:
> > .Blueskies. wrote:
> >> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except during the long
> >> flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...
> >
> > Flying traffic reporters deep in the FRZ around the DC Beltway, I'm
> > always on an ATC frequency and monitoring air-to-air on the #2. If I
> > had a third comm...
> >
> Actually the SL30 (and the GNS480 which uses the same comm section)
> can monitor the standby frequency. I can listen to 4 frequencies.
> Even when I'm picking up the ATIS or something on #2, I've got 121.5
> in the M channel.

It's mind boggling that it took avionics companies so long to add this
feature to their products. Dual watch was a standard feature in marine VHF
radios 15 or 20 years ago. I used to have an ICOM marine handheld that had
tri-watch. You could monitor two random channels, *plus* channel 16 (the
marine version of 121.5).

Mxsmanic
November 8th 06, 06:03 PM
Ron Natalie writes:

> The one chilling MAYDAY I did here was on the Gary tower
> frequency.

What was it about?

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Ron Natalie
November 8th 06, 09:45 PM
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Ron Natalie writes:
>
>> The one chilling MAYDAY I did here was on the Gary tower
>> frequency.
>
> What was it about?
>
It was a Piper cub that ran out of fuel over the lake.
One occupant dead, one recovered.

Ben Jackson
November 8th 06, 10:55 PM
On 2006-11-07, .Blueskies. > wrote:
> The Maydays post got me wondering.

I don't, because my backup radio is a Narco MK12D, and it's wired so
that 121.5 is always open squelch. My habit is to use the KX155 for
all my "people talking" because it remembers frequencies across power
cycling. The MK12D listens to ATIS and talks to ground.

--
Ben Jackson AD7GD
>
http://www.ben.com/

November 10th 06, 05:18 PM
..Blueskies. > wrote:
> The Maydays post got me wondering. I don't monitor except
> during the long flights, maybe ~2 hours or longer...


There is a NOTAM that REQUIRES us to monitor 121.5 "when capable".
If I am not actively using the second radio for ATIS or FSS, I have
it on 121.5 and I am monitoring. The NOTAM is plain, and I am a
simple person. I merely comply.

I am AMAZED at all the calls to airliners to "come up on
frequency XXX.XX and contact Center". :-)


Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocations!"
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CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer<at>frii.com http://users.frii.com/jer/
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Ron Natalie
November 13th 06, 01:17 PM
wrote:

>
> I am AMAZED at all the calls to airliners to "come up on
> frequency XXX.XX and contact Center". :-)
>
>
I heard yesterday a bunch of people who were coming up on
121.5 to get center to give them a new frequency as the
sector they were using had a stuck mike on it.

I also heard some fractional jet operator using it for
relaying non-essential communications (limousine availability)
and other people using it as a hailing frequency (aka Marine
channel 16) and then going off to (get this) fingers.

I've also heard people griping to other people (over the air)
of their abuse of 121.5

Jose[_1_]
November 13th 06, 02:25 PM
> then going off to (get this) fingers.

What is "going off to fingers"?

Jose
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it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
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November 13th 06, 03:45 PM
Jose > wrote:
> > then going off to (get this) fingers.

> What is "going off to fingers"?

Yet another inappropriate use of an aviation frequency.

Count on your fingers... 1 2 3 4 5, now use it as a
frequency... 123.45 MHz. It the assigned frequency for the
baggage handlers at Chicago O'Hare. The aim tells us to
use 122.75 and 122.85 for air-to-air (Mx, may I suggest that
you look it up in the AIM?). I also hear FAR too much chatter
from "Radio Free Boulder" on our Unicom frequency 123.3...
we need to be on that frequency... we have a license
for that frequency. The AIM describes uses of the frequency...
and it is not position and chit-chat. The Boulder group
could easily pirate onto 123.5 if they want to use an inappropriate
frequency (again, read the AIM and quote it before responding).
Or, the could use 122.75 or 122.85. Yes, I know "everybody
does it" and "we've done it for a long time and not gotten
in trouble" and "my instructor taught me this". That does not
make it right, nor current information.

Our ham club in Fort Collins, Colorado just toured the FCC
Monitoring Van (they paid a courtesy visit to Fort Fun). They are
currently interested in finding and fine-ing violators. It will
be interesting how many people find out the hard way that the
rules really are the rules. :-)


Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocations!"
--
Jer/ (Slash) Eberhard, Mountain Flying Aviation, LTD, Ft Collins, CO
CELL 970 231-6325 EMAIL jer<at>frii.com http://users.frii.com/jer/
C-206 N9513G, CFII Airplane&Glider FAA-DEN Aviation Safety Counselor
CAP-CO Mission&Aircraft CheckPilot BM218 HAM N0FZD 247 Young Eagles!

Bela P. Havasreti
November 13th 06, 04:12 PM
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:25:24 GMT, Jose >
wrote:

Fingers = 123.45

FYI, "Winchester" = 130.30

I'm sure there are others....

Bela P. Havasreti

>> then going off to (get this) fingers.
>
>What is "going off to fingers"?
>
>Jose

Mxsmanic
November 13th 06, 04:56 PM
writes:

> I also hear FAR too much chatter
> from "Radio Free Boulder" on our Unicom frequency 123.3...

What is Radio Free Boulder, and why would they broadcast on a
frequency that (presumably) only pilots are likely to be using?

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Tri-Pacer[_1_]
November 13th 06, 06:07 PM
They are
> currently interested in finding and fine-ing violators. It will
> be interesting how many people find out the hard way that the
> rules really are the rules. :-)
>

Anyone dumb enough to identify themselves on an unapproved frequency
deserves to get caught. :-)

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A

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