Firewall Insulation Material??

[Drew Dalgleish]

On 7 Nov 2006 18:39:26 -0800, "DonMorrisey" >
wrote:

>Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
>my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
>sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but
>I'm wondering what some other builders may have used that has worked
>well and is relatively easy to install. All comments and leads
>appreciated, especially anyone that has flown their application and is
>happy with the result.
>
>I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
>comments on that are welcome as well.
>
>Thanks. Don...
>
I used fiberglass ceiling tile with the plastic ripped off and heavy
duty tin foil cemented on one side. It works very well and was really
cheap and easy to install.

[DonMorrisey]

Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but
I'm wondering what some other builders may have used that has worked
well and is relatively easy to install. All comments and leads
appreciated, especially anyone that has flown their application and is
happy with the result.

I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
comments on that are welcome as well.

Thanks. Don...

[jerry wass]

See my ad on eBay---260049106149--Jerry


DonMorrisey wrote:

> Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
> my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
> sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but
> I'm wondering what some other builders may have used that has worked
> well and is relatively easy to install. All comments and leads
> appreciated, especially anyone that has flown their application and is
> happy with the result.
>
> I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
> comments on that are welcome as well.
>
> Thanks. Don...
>

[Lou]

try this


http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/soundprf.html

[jerry wass]

Lou wrote:
> try this
>
>
> http://www.soundproofing.org/infopages/soundprf.html
>

I think the key word in the question was FIREproofing

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DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
> my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
> sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but

> I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
> comments on that are welcome as well.
>
> Thanks. Don...

Don..

3M material. It is sound deadening and reflects heat. Your comment
about the rest of the plane has me baffled. I don't know of any
material for more than the firewall.

Neal

[Lou]

Noboby was talking to you.

[DonMorrisey]

> 3M material. It is sound deadening and reflects heat. Your comment
> about the rest of the plane has me baffled. I don't know of any
> material for more than the firewall.
>
> Neal

Hi Neal, what particular 3M product?

When I say the rest of the plane I want to insulate my doors and cabin
to primarily retain heat but a by-product of this would be sound
deadening. There are many, many choices. I was trying to find what
has worked for others, i.e. accomplished the job and is light, moisture
resistant, etc...

Thanks. Don..

[BobR]

I can't recall the name of the stuff right now but I bought an ultra
light foam material from MacMaster Carr that covers all your
requirements. It is ultra light, sound deadening, insulating, and will
not burn on its own. As soon a a flame source is removed, it stops
burning (or melting). I bought it in 1/8 inch and 1/4 inch thickness.
It is black and a spray adhesive will work great with it.

Check out their web site, they have a wide selection of different foam
materials.

Bob

DonMorrisey wrote:
> > 3M material. It is sound deadening and reflects heat. Your comment
> > about the rest of the plane has me baffled. I don't know of any
> > material for more than the firewall.
> >
> > Neal
>
> Hi Neal, what particular 3M product?
>
> When I say the rest of the plane I want to insulate my doors and cabin
> to primarily retain heat but a by-product of this would be sound
> deadening. There are many, many choices. I was trying to find what
> has worked for others, i.e. accomplished the job and is light, moisture
> resistant, etc...
>
> Thanks. Don..

[ELIPPSE]

DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
> my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
> sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but
> I'm wondering what some other builders may have used that has worked
> well and is relatively easy to install. All comments and leads
> appreciated, especially anyone that has flown their application and is
> happy with the result.
>
> I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
> comments on that are welcome as well.
>
> Thanks. Don...
Contact EAR Specialties in Indiana. They have a complete line of sound
insulation products, and a pamphlet that shows where to install each.
They are also the makers of the "Conforfoam" line of absorbing seat
cushions and the little yellow ear-thingies!

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DonMorrisey wrote:
> Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
> my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
> sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but
> I'm wondering what some other builders may have used that has worked
> well and is relatively easy to install. All comments and leads
> appreciated, especially anyone that has flown their application and is
> happy with the result.
>
> I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
> comments on that are welcome as well.
>
> Thanks. Don...

While I haven't used it on an aircraft, my mechanic used a thin foil
insulation material on my car after I experimented with how well it
would float. (It didn't).

After the interior was all out and treated, he told me this stuff he
got at the hardware store was better than the original foam matting. It
was about 1/4" thick with foil on both sides and a sort of bubble tape
center section. It came prepared with adhesive on one side so you could
peel-and-stick. He got it at home depot or lowes or something. He was
right, it works, and it was cheap. Not sure what it was, but you might
just buy a bit of it at the store and hold it over a candle to see if
it fits the bill.

-Matt

[Kyle Boatright]

What adhesive did you use on this material?

I used a 3m spray adhesive to attach some PVC foam insulation to the
firewall of my RV-6 and have had problem after problem with the adhesive
releasing. I believe it is heat related.

KB

> wrote in message
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>
> DonMorrisey wrote:
>> Hey Everyone. I am looking for a good quality insulating material for
>> my firewall. I am interested in something that will effectively block
>> sound and heat. I've looked at what Spruce and Wicks has available but
>> I'm wondering what some other builders may have used that has worked
>> well and is relatively easy to install. All comments and leads
>> appreciated, especially anyone that has flown their application and is
>> happy with the result.
>>
>> I guess I need to insulate the rest of the airplane too, so any
>> comments on that are welcome as well.
>>
>> Thanks. Don...
>
> While I haven't used it on an aircraft, my mechanic used a thin foil
> insulation material on my car after I experimented with how well it
> would float. (It didn't).
>
> After the interior was all out and treated, he told me this stuff he
> got at the hardware store was better than the original foam matting. It
> was about 1/4" thick with foil on both sides and a sort of bubble tape
> center section. It came prepared with adhesive on one side so you could
> peel-and-stick. He got it at home depot or lowes or something. He was
> right, it works, and it was cheap. Not sure what it was, but you might
> just buy a bit of it at the store and hold it over a candle to see if
> it fits the bill.
>
> -Matt
>

[Bob Kuykendall]

Earlier, Kyle Boatright wrote:

> I used a 3m spray adhesive to attach some PVC foam insulation...

I have a couple hundred pounds of PVC foam sheet at the shop, but I
don't think I'd use it for firewall insulation. When burned, PVC
releases toxic hydrogen chloride gas. I think I'd prefer to use a more
inert and fire-resistant insulator at a firewall.

Thanks, Bob K.

[Kyle Boatright]

"Bob Kuykendall" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Earlier, Kyle Boatright wrote:
>
>> I used a 3m spray adhesive to attach some PVC foam insulation...
>
> I have a couple hundred pounds of PVC foam sheet at the shop, but I
> don't think I'd use it for firewall insulation. When burned, PVC
> releases toxic hydrogen chloride gas. I think I'd prefer to use a more
> inert and fire-resistant insulator at a firewall.
>
> Thanks, Bob K.

Aah, but all PVC ain't the same...

My employer used to manufacture a huge line of floorcovering products which
used PVC as a major ingredient. With the right additive package in the PVC,
it passed every flame and smoke test required to be installed in
residential, commercial, or even healthcare property.

I'm sure purpose built PVC insulation sold through major aviation suppliers
uses the same additives.

KB