Re: A deal at Home Depot

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Richard Riley" > wrote in message
...
> At my local Home Depot they seem to do a bigger than normal business
> with contractors. This evening I was in buying normal house supplies
> and they has a sign up - open a business account, get 50% off any one
> item in their tool section.
>
> I'd been thinking of getting a large air compressor, they had one I
> liked for $800. I asked if it was covered by their offer, they said
> yes. So I opened an account (24% interest rate!) bought the
> compressor on account, then paid off the account with a check then and
> there. $400 off.
>
> I don't know if other HD's do this, you might want to keep an eye
> open.
>

Sweet!

So, don't tease us so! Tell us about your new "item." <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Drew Dalgleish]

On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:29:50 -0800, Richard Riley
> wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:30:33 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Richard Riley" > wrote in message
...
>>> At my local Home Depot they seem to do a bigger than normal business
>>> with contractors. This evening I was in buying normal house supplies
>>> and they has a sign up - open a business account, get 50% off any one
>>> item in their tool section.
>>>
>>> I'd been thinking of getting a large air compressor, they had one I
>>> liked for $800. I asked if it was covered by their offer, they said
>>> yes. So I opened an account (24% interest rate!) bought the
>>> compressor on account, then paid off the account with a check then and
>>> there. $400 off.
>>>
>>> I don't know if other HD's do this, you might want to keep an eye
>>> open.
>>>
>>
>>Sweet!
>>
>>So, don't tease us so! Tell us about your new "item." <g>
>
>Internet/Catalog # 100005910
>Brand HUSKY
>Model # HS7810
>Air Delivery 12.6 SCFM @ 90 PSI
>Assembled Depth (In Inches) 31 In.
>Assembled Height (In Inches) 78
>Assembled Weight (In LBS) 458
>Assembled Width (In Inches) 41
>Carrying System No
>Engine Horsepower 7 HP
>Max Air Pressure Delivery 175 PSI
>Motor Induction
>Power Requirement 240 volts/17.3 amps
>Regulator Yes
>Tank Capacity 80 Gal.
>Tank Pressure Gauge Yes
>Weight(Lbs.) 458 Lbs.
>
>Of course this means I have to get 220 in the garage. How horrible.
>I'd never want that, of course.
I put mine in the basement beside the panel so I wouldn't have to
listen to it while I'm working.

[Jim Logajan]

Richard Riley > wrote:
> I wish someone would convince homebuilders in California that
> basements are a good thing.

Basements appear to be more common on newer California construction. Here's
an interesting article on the trend and why basements were more common in
the midwest and east but no so common in the west:

http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/04.19.01/mpnews3-0116.html

The need to dig down at least 4 feet to anchor the foundation so as to get
below the winter frost-line was the reason I heard many years ago for why
basements were prevalent where I grew up (Minnesota). Once you have to dig
that deep, the thinking presumably went, you may as well dig down a few
more and have a basement. No such motive existed in most of California.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Richard Riley" > wrote

> Internet/Catalog # 100005910
> Brand HUSKY
> Model # HS7810
> Air Delivery 12.6 SCFM @ 90 PSI
> Engine Horsepower 7 HP
> Max Air Pressure Delivery 175 PSI
> Motor Induction
> Power Requirement 240 volts/17.3 amps
>
> Of course this means I have to get 220 in the garage. How horrible.
> I'd never want that, of course.

Nice.

My best advice is to install a new subpanel in the garage.

Put a 100 amp breaker in your existing panel, and feed 4 lines to your sub
panel. You need 4 so you have dedicated 2 hots, and a neutral, and a separate
ground. You will need to separate the ground and neutral in the new panel,
unlike most primary panels. I think that is correct. I'm not a licensed
electrician, but I recall that is what was required in my house, to meet code.

You will need to install lots of different new circuits, more than likely, for
lighting, machines, welders, ect. It will be cheaper in the long run to have
the panel, so you don't have to run new circuits all of the way back to your
existing panel. Of course, if your existing panel is right on the other side of
the wall from your garage, ..."never mind!" <g>

One of the other posters also mentioned putting the new air machine in the
basement (that you don't have) and the concept of not having to listen to it is
a very, very, very good point. You might consider putting a small lean-to type
of shed on the outside wall of the garage, or a tall free standing doghouse
outside of the garage. The positives far out weigh the negatives, IMHO.

When you wire it up, you also might consider putting it on a wind-up type of
timer. It always seems I was leaving the workshop without turning off the
compressor, and having to get out of bed (after getting an elbow in the ribs) to
go turn it off, after it slowly leaked down and started up in the wee hours of
the morning.

Enjoy. Also, I have another trick. The reason it starts in the wee hours, is
because I have the drain cracked ever so slightly, so that it takes about 3 or 4
hours lo leak enough to turn back on. This makes the draining of the compressor
unnecessary, as it is always draining. It is a good idea to check on it
occasionally, to make sure it has not gotten plugged shut, and not draining.
--
Jim in NC

[Ron Webb]

"Richard Riley" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:37:52 GMT, (Drew
> Dalgleish) wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Of course this means I have to get 220 in the garage. How horrible.
>>>I'd never want that, of course.
>>I put mine in the basement beside the panel so I wouldn't have to
>>listen to it while I'm working.
>
> Good idea.
>
> I wish someone would convince homebuilders in California that
> basements are a good thing.

They stopped putting basements in homes in California because people kept
filling them with bodies...

[Stuart & Kathryn Fields]

Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24) under
my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk Works.
We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete floor
because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground. It is
dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away from a
canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4 miles
away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41 years
and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our house.
However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building, we
were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the 100year
flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded 50%
of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the 9'
deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area. Our
basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has never
been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess of
$1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I don't know
about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in my
personal life.

--
Stu Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Jim Logajan" > wrote in message
.. .
> Richard Riley > wrote:
> > I wish someone would convince homebuilders in California that
> > basements are a good thing.
>
> Basements appear to be more common on newer California construction.
Here's
> an interesting article on the trend and why basements were more common in
> the midwest and east but no so common in the west:
>
> http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/04.19.01/mpnews3-0116.html
>
> The need to dig down at least 4 feet to anchor the foundation so as to get
> below the winter frost-line was the reason I heard many years ago for why
> basements were prevalent where I grew up (Minnesota). Once you have to dig
> that deep, the thinking presumably went, you may as well dig down a few
> more and have a basement. No such motive existed in most of California.

[Peter Dohm]

> Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24) under
> my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk
Works.
> We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete
floor
> because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground. It is
> dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away from
a
> canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4
miles
> away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41
years
> and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our
house.
> However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building, we
> were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
> standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the 100year
> flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded 50%
> of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
> structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the 9'
> deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
> In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
> currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area. Our
> basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has never
> been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
> BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess of
> $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
> Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I don't
know
> about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in my
> personal life.
>
> --
> Stu Fields
> Experimental Helo magazine
> P. O. Box 1585
> Inyokern, CA 93527
> (760) 377-4478
> (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
> (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever increasing
intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that any
significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs of
construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our brilliant
electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media, continues to
elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.

Grrr.

Peter

[.Blueskies.]

Need to vote libertarian...


"Peter Dohm" > wrote in message ...
:> Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24) under
: > my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk
: Works.
: > We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete
: floor
: > because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground. It is
: > dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away from
: a
: > canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4
: miles
: > away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41
: years
: > and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our
: house.
: > However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building, we
: > were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
: > standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the 100year
: > flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded 50%
: > of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
: > structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the 9'
: > deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
: > In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
: > currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area. Our
: > basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has never
: > been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
: > BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess of
: > $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
: > Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I don't
: know
: > about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in my
: > personal life.
: >
: > --
: > Stu Fields
: > Experimental Helo magazine
: > P. O. Box 1585
: > Inyokern, CA 93527
: > (760) 377-4478
: > (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
: > (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
:
: We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever increasing
: intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
: reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that any
: significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs of
: construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our brilliant
: electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media, continues to
: elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.
:
: Grrr.
:
: Peter
:
:
:

[Peter Dohm]

True! And need to get enough people doing so to make a difference.


".Blueskies." > wrote in message
...
> Need to vote libertarian...
>
>
> "Peter Dohm" > wrote in message
...
> :> Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24)
under
> : > my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's Skunk
> : Works.
> : > We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement concrete
> : floor
> : > because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground.
It is
> : > dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away
from
> : a
> : > canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about 4
> : miles
> : > away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area 41
> : years
> : > and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of our
> : house.
> : > However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing building,
we
> : > were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5' of
> : > standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the
100year
> : > flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition exceeded
50%
> : > of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the existing
> : > structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of the
9'
> : > deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
> : > In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
> : > currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area.
Our
> : > basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has
never
> : > been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
> : > BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in excess
of
> : > $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
> : > Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I
don't
> : know
> : > about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention in
my
> : > personal life.
> : >
> : > --
> : > Stu Fields
> : > Experimental Helo magazine
> : > P. O. Box 1585
> : > Inyokern, CA 93527
> : > (760) 377-4478
> : > (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
> : > (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
> :
> : We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever
increasing
> : intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
> : reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that any
> : significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs of
> : construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our brilliant
> : electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media, continues
to
> : elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.
> :
> : Grrr.
> :
> : Peter
> :
> :
> :
>
>

[Stuart & Kathryn Fields]

We voted straight Libertarian this election. Further we offered to a
Libertarian talk show host a to start a funding scheme whereby I send in
$10 to the Libertarians and get three other people to do the same. This
process needs someone to keep poking it and making sure the people follow up
with getting the three others. I believe if the Libertarians raised $100
million this way the othe political party would have to take note. Just 10
million people are required and I believe that there are at least that many
out there that are getting tired of what they see coming from our elected
"representatives".
If this process was made to work, I feel I could get a lot more from my $10
than I did from my vote.

--
Stuart Fields
Experimental Helo magazine
P. O. Box 1585
Inyokern, CA 93527
(760) 377-4478
(760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
(760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell

www.vkss.com
www.experimentalhelo.com


"Peter Dohm" > wrote in message
...
> True! And need to get enough people doing so to make a difference.
>
>
> ".Blueskies." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Need to vote libertarian...
> >
> >
> > "Peter Dohm" > wrote in message
> ...
> > :> Well this Californa homeowner/DIY builder did put a basement (40X24)
> under
> > : > my place in the desert. We live just 40 miles North of Rutan's
Skunk
> > : Works.
> > : > We didn't bother putting a vapor barrier beneath the basement
concrete
> > : floor
> > : > because you can get a prize if you can spit and it hits the ground.
> It is
> > : > dry here. We are on the east side of the Sierras about 2 miles away
> from
> > : a
> > : > canyon that has a stream part of the year that hits the ground about
4
> > : miles
> > : > away and disappears right into the ground. I've lived in the area
41
> > : years
> > : > and have never seen any flood water get anywhere within miles of
our
> > : house.
> > : > However, when we decided to put an extension on our existing
building,
> we
> > : > were informed that we were in some flood plain and a threat of 0.5'
of
> > : > standing or running water was declared by FEMA to be a risk in the
> 100year
> > : > flood. Further they told us that if the cost of the addition
exceeded
> 50%
> > : > of the existing structure, we might be required to "Raise the
existing
> > : > structure 1.5" This we have in writing and they were informed of
the
> 9'
> > : > deep basement and the "existing structure is a 40X72 steel building.
> > : > In spite of the dry desert environment, I don't believe that it is
> > : > currently possible to get a permit to build a basement in our area.
> Our
> > : > basement maintains a very comfortable temperature year round and has
> never
> > : > been flooded by any act of nature in the 34 years it has existed.
> > : > BTW the permit for our 24X72 addition for a car garage cost in
excess
> of
> > : > $1,000. No plumbing, no electric, no windows.
> > : > Think carefully before you decide you have to have a basement. I
> don't
> > : know
> > : > about you but I'm getting sick and tired of government intervention
in
> my
> > : > personal life.
> > : >
> > : > --
> > : > Stu Fields
> > : > Experimental Helo magazine
> > : > P. O. Box 1585
> > : > Inyokern, CA 93527
> > : > (760) 377-4478
> > : > (760) 408-9747 general and layout cell
> > : > (760) 608-1299 technical and advertising cell
> > :
> > : We have similar *()&^^%$ lunacy down here in Florida, with ever
> increasing
> > : intensity since the early nineties, ostensibly to reduce the cost of
> > : reconstruction following a hurricane. The net result has been that
any
> > : significant remodeling or repair costs MUCH, MUCH more and the costs
of
> > : construction, repair, and insurance have multiplied. Yet our
brilliant
> > : electorate, with the helpful assistance of the popular media,
continues
> to
> > : elect the *&&^%$$ reperesntatives who make all of the lunacy possible.
> > :
> > : Grrr.
> > :
> > : Peter
> > :
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
>
>