Advanced rating training as Wings credit

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

I'm currently about 1/2 way to my instrument rating.

I've noticed that my recent training has included most of the standard
"Wings" recurrent maneuvers, albeit under the hood. If this instruction
counts, I believe all I need to cover are emergency procedures to meet
the requirements. I haven't yet asked my CFI for his opinion.

What say the group?

[Barry C]

[posted and mailed]

B A R R Y > wrote in news:h9h8h.8584$Sw1.5421
@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:

> I'm currently about 1/2 way to my instrument rating.
>
> I've noticed that my recent training has included most of the standard
> "Wings" recurrent maneuvers, albeit under the hood. If this instruction
> counts, I believe all I need to cover are emergency procedures to meet
> the requirements. I haven't yet asked my CFI for his opinion.
>
> What say the group?

As long as your training consists of the three hours of required
instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to do for WINGS credit
is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get that sign-off.


Barry C.
FAASTeam Rep.
CP-ASEL-IA

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Barry C wrote:
> As long as your training consists of the three hours of required
> instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to do for WINGS credit
> is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get that sign-off.
>
>
> Barry C.
> FAASTeam Rep.
> CP-ASEL-IA

Thanks, Barry.

I just found AC61-91H, which agrees with you, and states the logbook
endorsement I need the CFI to make. I've attended a few seminars this
year, and plan on hitting another next Monday.

One more question: Do you know the form number or any other information
for the FSDO Wings application? The AC and the SPANS site say to "send
your application to the FSDO", but I can't seem to locate a specific
form to do so. At home I have some signed off seminar attendance forms
that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the flight
portion. Is that the form? I'm confused, as they don't look like
typical official FAA documents.

Thanks again!

[Jim Macklin]

You must attend a safety meeting and complete the
appropriate training. Then submit the forms to the FAA
FSDO.


"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
m...
| I'm currently about 1/2 way to my instrument rating.
|
| I've noticed that my recent training has included most of
the standard
| "Wings" recurrent maneuvers, albeit under the hood. If
this instruction
| counts, I believe all I need to cover are emergency
procedures to meet
| the requirements. I haven't yet asked my CFI for his
opinion.
|
| What say the group?

[Jim Macklin]

The Wings forms are usually available at the
seminars/meetings or you can contact the local FSDO safety
officer. Each FSDO is on-line,
Federal Aviation Administration - Wichita FSDO
Wichita FSDO. Office Information. Wichita FSDO Service
Area Map (PDF); Contact the Office ... Washington, DC 20591
1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322) ...
www.faa.gov/fsdo/ict/ - 31k - Cached - Similar pages

Federal Aviation Administration - Wichita FSDO-Contact the
Office
Wichita FSDO Contact the Office. Address:. 1801
Airport Road Suite 300 Wichita, Kansas 67209 ... Washington,
DC 20591 1-866-TELL-FAA (1-866-835-5322) ...
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You can just change the identifier to your local FSDO.



"B A R R Y" > wrote in message
. com...
| Barry C wrote:
| > As long as your training consists of the three hours of
required
| > instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to
do for WINGS credit
| > is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get
that sign-off.
| >
| >
| > Barry C.
| > FAASTeam Rep.
| > CP-ASEL-IA
|
| Thanks, Barry.
|
| I just found AC61-91H, which agrees with you, and states
the logbook
| endorsement I need the CFI to make. I've attended a few
seminars this
| year, and plan on hitting another next Monday.
|
| One more question: Do you know the form number or any
other information
| for the FSDO Wings application? The AC and the SPANS
site say to "send
| your application to the FSDO", but I can't seem to locate
a specific
| form to do so. At home I have some signed off seminar
attendance forms
| that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the
flight
| portion. Is that the form? I'm confused, as they don't
look like
| typical official FAA documents.
|
| Thanks again!

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Jim Macklin wrote:
> The Wings forms are usually available at the
> seminars/meetings

It sounds like the forms are have are all I need.

Thanks, Guys!

[Jose[_1_]]

> At home I have some signed off seminar attendance forms that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the flight portion. Is that the form?

Yes, that's the form. It's not well designed (makes no provision for
instruction that is not exactly one hour, or from different instructors,
but the FAA doesn't seem to care if you do it that way.

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jim Macklin]

Just be sure to put the flights and the seminar in your
logbook too. Be sure to have your CFI sign the logbook and
the form and that the form was signed by the seminar sponsor
also. It is a good idea to indicate the flights that
constitute the Wings training.





"Jose" > wrote in message
. com...
|> At home I have some signed off seminar attendance forms
that include spaces for date / details / CFI info for the
flight portion. Is that the form?
|
| Yes, that's the form. It's not well designed (makes no
provision for
| instruction that is not exactly one hour, or from
different instructors,
| but the FAA doesn't seem to care if you do it that way.
|
| Jose
| --
| "Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you
can't see where
| it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry
Potter).
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Barry C]

[posted and mailed]

B A R R Y > wrote in
. com:

> Barry C wrote:
>> As long as your training consists of the three hours of required
>> instruction (I believe it would!), then all you need to do for WINGS
>> credit is attend a seminar and do emergency procedures and get that
>> sign-off.
>>
>>
>> Barry C.
>> FAASTeam Rep.
>> CP-ASEL-IA
>
> Thanks, Barry.
>
> One more question: Do you know the form number or any other
> information for the FSDO Wings application? The AC and the SPANS
> site say to "send your application to the FSDO", but I can't seem to
> locate a specific form to do so. At home I have some signed off
> seminar attendance forms that include spaces for date / details / CFI
> info for the flight portion. Is that the form? I'm confused, as they
> don't look like typical official FAA documents.

I'm not sure what form is used where you are. The form we use certainly
isn't "formal". ;-) What you describe sounds like the form that is
needed. When in doubt, though, talk with someone at your local FSDO.

Barry


>
> Thanks again!
>