Input jack on a Baron

[Greg Farris]

I am aware that in real planes most commands are made through the
conventional flight controls - however there are some operations that
simply *require* a keyboard. Fuel management, for example.

Let's say I want to fly my Baron from Boisie, Idaho to Khartoum. I have
done in-depth calculations, involving complex algorithms and in my
estimation, even if I start with full fuel, I may run out before I get to
Sudan. In this case, without a keyboard to re-establish a given fuel
level, the flight cannot continue. Looking at pictures of real planes, I
do not see any dedicated button on the panel to accomplish this function,
so I can only assume there must be a keyboard input *somewhere* - but
WHERE? I cannot see it anywhere!

Another example - on a short hop from Los Angeles (LAX) to Chicago
(ORD). Obviously fuel is no problem on this short distance, but there is
a long, boring section, after crossing the Rockies at FL370 - the
terrain levels out, and it seems to take forever to get up to the Midwest
plains and make my approach to O'hare. I would like to just skip this
whole section, but once again I find no function in the real plane
allowing me to do this. So there must be a keyboard input . . .

Please be so kind as to enlighten me. In return I will challenge
everything you say and tell you you are simply not smart enough to grasp
my algorithms. . .

[Doug[_1_]]

Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out the USB port?

[Jim Macklin]

The new Baron's come with special dilithium crystal fuel
conversion units that use the Earth's static electrical
fields as a power source to synthesize gasoline in the fuel
tanks by converting the coffee as the second step in the
process.

The pilot and passengers all drink a lot of coffee in order
to extend the range. One cup of coffee makes 24 gallons of
gasoline.




"Greg Farris" > wrote in message
...
|I am aware that in real planes most commands are made
through the
| conventional flight controls - however there are some
operations that
| simply *require* a keyboard. Fuel management, for example.
|
| Let's say I want to fly my Baron from Boisie, Idaho to
Khartoum. I have
| done in-depth calculations, involving complex algorithms
and in my
| estimation, even if I start with full fuel, I may run out
before I get to
| Sudan. In this case, without a keyboard to re-establish a
given fuel
| level, the flight cannot continue. Looking at pictures of
real planes, I
| do not see any dedicated button on the panel to accomplish
this function,
| so I can only assume there must be a keyboard input
*somewhere* - but
| WHERE? I cannot see it anywhere!
|
| Another example - on a short hop from Los Angeles (LAX)
to Chicago
| (ORD). Obviously fuel is no problem on this short
distance, but there is
| a long, boring section, after crossing the Rockies at
FL370 - the
| terrain levels out, and it seems to take forever to get up
to the Midwest
| plains and make my approach to O'hare. I would like to
just skip this
| whole section, but once again I find no function in the
real plane
| allowing me to do this. So there must be a keyboard input
.. . .
|
| Please be so kind as to enlighten me. In return I will
challenge
| everything you say and tell you you are simply not smart
enough to grasp
| my algorithms. . .
|

[Jim Burns[_1_]]

I believe that our Aztec used to have it's keyboard in a "map tray" located
under the co-pilots panel, but since previous owners removed the map tray, I
can only assume that they discarded the keyboard. Obviously this decreased
the value of our aircraft tremendously. I have noticed remnants of the
previous "map tray/keyboard" install such as the tray rails and the power
connection and I'm hoping to one day find a replacement keyboard and data
cable on ebay. It sure would be nice to have that "auto-fuel" button.
Because our plane has injected low compression engines, we can't get the
auto fuel STC, so my only hope is to find a keyboard with the factory
installed auto fuel function. I don't think our plane came with the "fast
forward" function, I believe that was only available in the turbo models.
If you have a Baron, you might try calling Jet-Prop Conversions, I think
they sell an STC'd Fast Forward package for the Baron.
Jim

[Greg Farris]

In article . com>,
says...
>
>
>Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out the USB port?
>

The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the corpses of dangerous
pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a USB port - they
certainly had their keyboards connected through RS-232 serial ports. I
have designed many such aircraft, and I must say I would feel a lot safer
if I didn't have to share the skies with people like you. Your attitude
shows you have little respect for the truth.

[Steve Foley[_2_]]

"Greg Farris" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>,
> says...
>>
>>
>>Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out the USB port?
>>
>
> The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the corpses of dangerous
> pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a USB port - they
> certainly had their keyboards connected through RS-232 serial ports. I
> have designed many such aircraft, and I must say I would feel a lot safer
> if I didn't have to share the skies with people like you. Your attitude
> shows you have little respect for the truth.
>

You are correct. The correct procedure is to use a Sinclair ZX-81, enter the
program, and save it to tape. If you'll notice, this uses the same 1/8" jack
as the line-in or music-in on your intercom.

If you don't have a newer intercom, you'll need to enter the commands four
bits at a time using the Fuel Pump, Nav lights, landing light, rotating
beacon switches. ( see http://home.att.net/~n6480r/IMG_1340.JPG )

When you have the correct arrangements of switches, depress the starter
button.

[Thomas Borchert]

Steve,

> The correct procedure is to use a Sinclair ZX-81
>

Which is the last safe computer for flying, too. I know since I worked
as cleaning personal in a Sinclair shop before they outsourced my job
to Bangalore.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Jim Macklin]

If you look at the panel for the Eclipse 500, you will see
the keyboard mounts
http://www.eclipseaviation.com/eclipse_500/avio/flight_deck.html#





"Steve Foley" > wrote in message
...
| "Greg Farris" > wrote in message
| ...
| > In article
. com>,
| > says...
| >>
| >>
| >>Stuff $100 bills into the CD Drive and fuel comes out
the USB port?
| >>
| >
| > The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the
corpses of dangerous
| > pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a
USB port - they
| > certainly had their keyboards connected through RS-232
serial ports. I
| > have designed many such aircraft, and I must say I would
feel a lot safer
| > if I didn't have to share the skies with people like
you. Your attitude
| > shows you have little respect for the truth.
| >
|
| You are correct. The correct procedure is to use a
Sinclair ZX-81, enter the
| program, and save it to tape. If you'll notice, this uses
the same 1/8" jack
| as the line-in or music-in on your intercom.
|
| If you don't have a newer intercom, you'll need to enter
the commands four
| bits at a time using the Fuel Pump, Nav lights, landing
light, rotating
| beacon switches. ( see
http://home.att.net/~n6480r/IMG_1340.JPG )
|
| When you have the correct arrangements of switches,
depress the starter
| button.
|
|

[Jose[_1_]]

> The cemeteries of the US are overflowing with the corpses of dangerous
> pilots like yourself! The Baron is too old to have a USB port

That's why it's important to get a floppy.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Steve Foley" > wrote

> You are correct. The correct procedure is to use a Sinclair ZX-81, enter the
> program, and save it to tape. If you'll notice, this uses the same 1/8" jack
> as the line-in or music-in on your intercom.
>
> If you don't have a newer intercom, you'll need to enter the commands four
> bits at a time using the Fuel Pump, Nav lights, landing light, rotating
> beacon switches. ( see http://home.att.net/~n6480r/IMG_1340.JPG )
>
> When you have the correct arrangements of switches, depress the starter
> button.

NO! Don't do that. That is the back door way to fire the ejection seat!
--
Jim in NC

[Viperdoc[_3_]]

The input jack is next to the ejection seat trigger.

[Jim Macklin]

I thought it was that funnel connected to the 3 feet of
rubber hose just in front of the pilot's seat, stowed in the
"sock drawer" just in front of the spar cover.



"Viperdoc" > wrote in message
t...
| The input jack is next to the ejection seat trigger.
|
|

[Aluckyguess]

In flight fueling Jack. Cost 1.2 million. I would put a booster rocket. It
shortens the trip for about the same cost.
"Greg Farris" > wrote in message
...
>I am aware that in real planes most commands are made through the
> conventional flight controls - however there are some operations that
> simply *require* a keyboard. Fuel management, for example.
>
> Let's say I want to fly my Baron from Boisie, Idaho to Khartoum. I have
> done in-depth calculations, involving complex algorithms and in my
> estimation, even if I start with full fuel, I may run out before I get to
> Sudan. In this case, without a keyboard to re-establish a given fuel
> level, the flight cannot continue. Looking at pictures of real planes, I
> do not see any dedicated button on the panel to accomplish this function,
> so I can only assume there must be a keyboard input *somewhere* - but
> WHERE? I cannot see it anywhere!
>
> Another example - on a short hop from Los Angeles (LAX) to Chicago
> (ORD). Obviously fuel is no problem on this short distance, but there is
> a long, boring section, after crossing the Rockies at FL370 - the
> terrain levels out, and it seems to take forever to get up to the Midwest
> plains and make my approach to O'hare. I would like to just skip this
> whole section, but once again I find no function in the real plane
> allowing me to do this. So there must be a keyboard input . . .
>
> Please be so kind as to enlighten me. In return I will challenge
> everything you say and tell you you are simply not smart enough to grasp
> my algorithms. . .
>