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Tim Mara
November 24th 06, 06:26 PM
November 23rd is the BIG day for HpH company. After several years of
developement maiden flight of 304S was successfully made!
you can now see images on the HpH Website http://www.hph.cz/
23.11. 2006 we take our new baby into air!
A test pilot Ludek Kluger was surprised with the excellent characteristic
this new superglider.
He report excellent flying quality from first moment.
Testing will be continued intensively .
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at:
www.wingsandwheels.com
Eric Greenwell
November 24th 06, 08:01 PM
Tim Mara wrote:
> November 23rd is the BIG day for HpH company. After several years of
> developement maiden flight of 304S was successfully made!
> you can now see images on the HpH Website http://www.hph.cz/
> 23.11. 2006 we take our new baby into air!
> A test pilot Ludek Kluger was surprised with the excellent characteristic
> this new superglider.
> He report excellent flying quality from first moment.
> Testing will be continued intensively .
Tim, is there some documentation (design features description, test
results, engineering calculations, etc) that backs up their claim the
304S cockpit is superior to the other manufacturers?
--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
"Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html
"A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
Tim Mara
November 24th 06, 11:44 PM
there's a lot of testing done and not a lot printed or yet published and a
whole lot more testing and documentation yet to be done....they have just
complete the very first flight after nearly 4 years in
development.....you'll have to wait until they catch their breath to get
detailed reports but you can see from my website and from theirs a brief
description of what has been going on until now and I think you'll agree
there is already more information released by this manufacturer then most.
tim
Wings & Wheels
www.wingsandwheels.com
"Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
news:LcI9h.4679$_x3.2531@trndny02...
> Tim Mara wrote:
>> November 23rd is the BIG day for HpH company. After several years of
>> developement maiden flight of 304S was successfully made!
>> you can now see images on the HpH Website http://www.hph.cz/
>> 23.11. 2006 we take our new baby into air!
>> A test pilot Ludek Kluger was surprised with the excellent characteristic
>> this new superglider.
>> He report excellent flying quality from first moment.
>> Testing will be continued intensively .
>
> Tim, is there some documentation (design features description, test
> results, engineering calculations, etc) that backs up their claim the 304S
> cockpit is superior to the other manufacturers?
>
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
>
> "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
> www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html
>
> "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
chris
November 25th 06, 05:10 AM
That is exciting, and just like you said, it's first flight was a
Thursday.
Chris
Tim Mara wrote:
> November 23rd is the BIG day for HpH company. After several years of
> developement maiden flight of 304S was successfully made!
> you can now see images on the HpH Website http://www.hph.cz/
> 23.11. 2006 we take our new baby into air!
> A test pilot Ludek Kluger was surprised with the excellent characteristic
> this new superglider.
> He report excellent flying quality from first moment.
> Testing will be continued intensively .
>
> tim
> Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at:
> www.wingsandwheels.com
Brad
November 25th 06, 06:33 AM
I really appreciate all the great shop pix. Their tooling and CNC
tooling looks very nice.
Brad
Tim Mara wrote:
> there's a lot of testing done and not a lot printed or yet published and a
> whole lot more testing and documentation yet to be done....they have just
> complete the very first flight after nearly 4 years in
> development.....you'll have to wait until they catch their breath to get
> detailed reports but you can see from my website and from theirs a brief
> description of what has been going on until now and I think you'll agree
> there is already more information released by this manufacturer then most.
> tim
> Wings & Wheels
> www.wingsandwheels.com
>
> "Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
> news:LcI9h.4679$_x3.2531@trndny02...
> > Tim Mara wrote:
> >> November 23rd is the BIG day for HpH company. After several years of
> >> developement maiden flight of 304S was successfully made!
> >> you can now see images on the HpH Website http://www.hph.cz/
> >> 23.11. 2006 we take our new baby into air!
> >> A test pilot Ludek Kluger was surprised with the excellent characteristic
> >> this new superglider.
> >> He report excellent flying quality from first moment.
> >> Testing will be continued intensively .
> >
> > Tim, is there some documentation (design features description, test
> > results, engineering calculations, etc) that backs up their claim the 304S
> > cockpit is superior to the other manufacturers?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> > Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
> >
> > "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
> > www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html
> >
> > "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
Tim Mara
November 25th 06, 05:06 PM
"chris" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> That is exciting, and just like you said, it's first flight was a
> Thursday.
>
> Chris
they are true to their word! :o)
the standing question was always "when will it fly?" and the standard answer
from HpH was "Thursday" .they just never could say which "thursday" :o)
Also, HpH will now begin taking production orders. Up until now HpH would
not accept deposits for this new sailplane until after the first flights
were accomplished. They have however had a "Pre-order" waiting list to give
preferential ordering times to those who have already expressed their
interest to buy this new ship. This list has some 50+ "pre-orders" that will
now be confirmed or removed from the list for firm orders. During the course
of 2007 it is likely that only about 10 can be completed and delivered. The
very first 10 units will have special basic pricing at only EU59500 (that's
EU10,000 under ! normal anticipated costs) and then the normal price will be
EU69,500 and adjusted as needed then for production costs, inflation and so
on.
I hope to have the options list published on my website in the next week or
so. Anyone interested, please contact myself or HpH http://www.hph.cz/ for
further details.
Best regards
Tim Mara
Wings & Wheels
www.wingsandwheels.com
>
Eric Greenwell
November 26th 06, 12:57 AM
Tim Mara wrote:
> there's a lot of testing done and not a lot printed or yet published and a
> whole lot more testing and documentation yet to be done....they have just
> complete the very first flight after nearly 4 years in
> development.....you'll have to wait until they catch their breath to get
> detailed reports but you can see from my website and from theirs a brief
> description of what has been going on until now and I think you'll agree
> there is already more information released by this manufacturer then most.
True, but I couldn't find anything about the cockpit structure, my main
interest at this point. Let us know When they have some detailed info. I
like the ability to add the motor later on.
--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
"Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html
"A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
Tim Mara
November 26th 06, 03:12 PM
the first glider deliveries will be with out motors though all can be
delivered "motor ready"
the motor options will be initially planned and the anticipated costs are
below
turbo system ? 17.600 september 2007
JET engine system ? 24.400 october 2007 *
self-launching system ? 39.800 november 2007
* this particular Jet engine engine system is unique to HpH
more details will be availible at a later date
there is a brief statement on the structural testing on their earlier flyer
please check the progress in this short presentation.
tim
Wings & Wheels
www.wingsandwheels.com
"Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
news:ZD5ah.13302$_x3.9894@trndny02...
> Tim Mara wrote:
>> there's a lot of testing done and not a lot printed or yet published and
>> a whole lot more testing and documentation yet to be done....they have
>> just complete the very first flight after nearly 4 years in
>> development.....you'll have to wait until they catch their breath to get
>> detailed reports but you can see from my website and from theirs a brief
>> description of what has been going on until now and I think you'll agree
>> there is already more information released by this manufacturer then
>> most.
>
> True, but I couldn't find anything about the cockpit structure, my main
> interest at this point. Let us know When they have some detailed info. I
> like the ability to add the motor later on.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
> Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
>
> "Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
> www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html
>
> "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
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