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Max Richter
November 24th 06, 08:30 PM
Hallo,

many C119/123; B36; Neputnes and several other airplanes with
reciprocating-engines were fitted jet -engines as "boosters".
Now the question:
did they use avgas for these jets or jetfuel from a special tank ?
Greetings
Max Richter

Bob Moore
November 24th 06, 09:07 PM
Max Richter wrote
> many C119/123; B36; Neputnes and several other airplanes with
> reciprocating-engines were fitted jet -engines as "boosters".
> Now the question:
> did they use avgas for these jets or jetfuel from a special tank ?

The Neptune "de-fuelers" burned 115/145 right along with the
R-3350s.

Bob Moore
VP-21 1959-1962

John Weiss[_1_]
November 24th 06, 09:47 PM
"Bob Moore" > wrote...
>
> The Neptune "de-fuelers" burned 115/145 right along with the
> R-3350s.

....and had a fine coating of red lead in the tailpipes to prove it!

John Keeney
November 25th 06, 06:38 AM
Max Richter wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> many C119/123; B36; Neputnes and several other airplanes with
> reciprocating-engines were fitted jet -engines as "boosters".
> Now the question:
> did they use avgas for these jets or jetfuel from a special tank ?
> Greetings
> Max Richter

The B-36 burned avgas in all engines, even when it was "six turning and
four burning."

Ed Rasimus[_1_]
November 25th 06, 02:40 PM
On 24 Nov 2006 22:38:38 -0800, "John Keeney"
> wrote:

>
>Max Richter wrote:
>> Hallo,
>>
>> many C119/123; B36; Neputnes and several other airplanes with
>> reciprocating-engines were fitted jet -engines as "boosters".
>> Now the question:
>> did they use avgas for these jets or jetfuel from a special tank ?
>> Greetings
>> Max Richter
>
>The B-36 burned avgas in all engines, even when it was "six turning and
>four burning."

Used to have some Army livery F-10s at Holloman--jets that burned
AvGas. Man did they stink when you had to taxi behind one!

But, the KC-97s used to carry JP-4 for offload and AvGas for their own
engines.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org
www.thundertales.blogspot.com

Paul[_3_]
November 25th 06, 03:01 PM
"Ed Rasimus" > wrote in message
...
> On 24 Nov 2006 22:38:38 -0800, "John Keeney"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>Max Richter wrote:
>>> Hallo,
>>>
>>> many C119/123; B36; Neputnes and several other airplanes with
>>> reciprocating-engines were fitted jet -engines as "boosters".
>>> Now the question:
>>> did they use avgas for these jets or jetfuel from a special tank ?
>>> Greetings
>>> Max Richter
>>
>>The B-36 burned avgas in all engines, even when it was "six turning and
>>four burning."
>
> Used to have some Army livery F-10s at Holloman--jets that burned
> AvGas. Man did they stink when you had to taxi behind one!
>
> But, the KC-97s used to carry JP-4 for offload and AvGas for their own
> engines.
>
>
> Ed Rasimus
> Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
> "When Thunder Rolled"
> www.thunderchief.org
> www.thundertales.blogspot.com



"Most" jet engines will run on anything that will burn...

Diesel, Jet A , JP-4/5/8, Avgas....even Mogas..

The old Huey -10 had pages listing which fuels you could run in it, and for
how long. There are restrictions on how long you can run the engine on
"Alternate / emergency fuels..
The -10 for the Chinook lists this restictions also....

TB 55-9150-200-24 lists the fuel types suitable for use in turbine engine
aircraft.

For years and years Jet engines ran on JP-4 which is a mixture of Kerosene
and Gasoline..

Thankfully today we are running all JP-8 / JP-5...
which has a much higher flash point.

And the Air Force is running JP-8 100+ in many aircraft.

On a further note, the Army is running almost all ground diesel engine
vehicles on JP-8 / Jet A. Which works ok for some, but other engines have a
problem with the low lubricity of Jet Fuel and have problems with early fuel
pump / injector failures.

Some vehicles with Cummins / Cat engines have specfic instructions in the
operators manual to add engine oil to the fuel to improve the lubricating
properties of JP-8 / Jet A when used as fuel for those engines.
IIRC - the mixture is like 5 percent by volume.




Helomech

M. B.
November 26th 06, 06:36 PM
Ed,

Any chance of talking with you off-line regarding some research I'm doing?

V/R
M.B.



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