Only six US OLC flight claims?

[Mike the Strike]

On posting my short cross-country flight to the OLC yesterday, I noted
only six claimed for the whole of North America. I find this a bit on
the low side (the whole population of the USA can't have been full of
turkey and out shopping). Did no-one fly yesterday, or are the OLC
posting problems deterring claims?

For late November, it wasn't too bad in Arizona - it's unusual to see
dust devils this close to year's end, though.

Mike

[Greg Arnold]

18 gliders flying at Santa Ynez, California over the weekend, but the
conditions were not strong enough for significant mileage. Also, the
OLC problems can't be helping participation.

The OLC guys seem to have the website working much better, but now they
have eliminated all flight information from the pages that list all
flights of an individual pilot, and the pages that list the flights of a
club. You get information about the type of glider and even the
N-number, but nothing about the flight itself (other than the date).
Makes it impossible to review a pilot's flights, and you also can't find
detailed information about a specific flight unless you know the exact
date of the flight.



Mike the Strike wrote:
> On posting my short cross-country flight to the OLC yesterday, I noted
> only six claimed for the whole of North America. I find this a bit on
> the low side (the whole population of the USA can't have been full of
> turkey and out shopping). Did no-one fly yesterday, or are the OLC
> posting problems deterring claims?
>
> For late November, it wasn't too bad in Arizona - it's unusual to see
> dust devils this close to year's end, though.
>
> Mike
>

[Mike the Strike]

Six is about the same number as this time last year and suggests that
we've lost a lot of the folks who joined this summer because of the
latest software mess.

Mike

On Nov 27, 10:56 am, Greg Arnold > wrote:
> 18 gliders flying at Santa Ynez, California over the weekend, but the
> conditions were not strong enough for significant mileage. Also, the
> OLC problems can't be helping participation.
>
> The OLC guys seem to have the website working much better, but now they
> have eliminated all flight information from the pages that list all
> flights of an individual pilot, and the pages that list the flights of a
> club. You get information about the type of glider and even the
> N-number, but nothing about the flight itself (other than the date).
> Makes it impossible to review a pilot's flights, and you also can't find
> detailed information about a specific flight unless you know the exact
> date of the flight.
>
> Mike the Strike wrote:
> > On posting my short cross-country flight to the OLC yesterday, I noted
> > only six claimed for the whole of North America. I find this a bit on
> > the low side (the whole population of the USA can't have been full of
> > turkey and out shopping). Did no-one fly yesterday, or are the OLC
> > posting problems deterring claims?
>
> > For late November, it wasn't too bad in Arizona - it's unusual to see
> > dust devils this close to year's end, though.
>
> > Mike

[Wayne Paul]

"Mike the Strike" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Six is about the same number as this time last year and suggests that
> we've lost a lot of the folks who joined this summer because of the
> latest software mess.
>
> Mike
>

.... or it implies that many of the gliders belonging to pilots that were
active this summer have gone into hibernation and will reappear in the
spring.

Wayne
HP-14 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder

[[email protected]]

Mike,
I flew yesterday out of Warner Springs and attempted to post my
measly flight. It hasn't shown up on OLC 24+ hours after the "posting"
.. Most of the time I can't get any flight info out of the website. It
sounds like it may not be operator error just on my end.
Has anyone else posted a flight and not have it show up either? This
was my first post on the new website. Just when I was getting
comfortable with the old one they go and change it! :-)

Dean

[Mike the Strike]

Two more flights have appeared.

Dean, try saving the OLC claim file in SeeYou and uploading that if the
direct claim didn't work. That's what I've found easiest.

Mike



On Nov 27, 9:52 pm, wrote:
> Mike,
> I flew yesterday out of Warner Springs and attempted to post my
> measly flight. It hasn't shown up on OLC 24+ hours after the "posting"
> . Most of the time I can't get any flight info out of the website. It
> sounds like it may not be operator error just on my end.
> Has anyone else posted a flight and not have it show up either? This
> was my first post on the new website. Just when I was getting
> comfortable with the old one they go and change it! :-)
>
> Dean

[5Z]

On Nov 28, 8:16 am, "Mike the Strike" > wrote:
> Dean, try saving the OLC claim file in SeeYou and uploading that if the
> direct claim didn't work. That's what I've found easiest.

Also, if using the latest version of SeeYou to upload, it appears to
hang and never completes. So far only used it on two flights. In both
cases, I just let the dialog sit there for several minutes, then closed
it. The flights did end up on the OLC.

-Tom

[LOV2AV8]

Mike, I uploaded for Sat the 25th. I can't find it anywhere now. Doug
H. Can you help me?


Mike the Strike wrote:
> On posting my short cross-country flight to the OLC yesterday, I noted
> only six claimed for the whole of North America. I find this a bit on
> the low side (the whole population of the USA can't have been full of
> turkey and out shopping). Did no-one fly yesterday, or are the OLC
> posting problems deterring claims?
>
> For late November, it wasn't too bad in Arizona - it's unusual to see
> dust devils this close to year's end, though.
>
> Mike

[[email protected]]

Greg,
The old aviation saying was "when the paperwork equals the weight of
the airplane, you can go fly." The new saying is "when your time on the
computer trying to get a flight on OLC equals the flight time, you can
submit!"
Thanks for your email tips, and thank you Mike and Tom also.
FYI, I got the SeeYou3.4 update, optimized flight in See You , then
submitted as prepared claim. That seemed to work. Of course, the other
screwup I now see is that is has me flying a Falcon. The handicap is
the same as my DG303 so I am afraid to mess with it any more!

Dean

[Ian[_1_]]

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:52:36 -0800, dnc303 wrote:

> Has anyone else posted a flight and not have it show up either? This
> was my first post on the new website.

I uploaded a flight from Sunday, last night, an hour and half before the
midnight cut off. Just after I had uploaded it, it was visible, but not
scored. But then it disappeared. I uploaded it again, there was no error,
but no flight.

The trouble with this, is that for every negative report like this on RAS
are 10 pilots who have withdrawn their enthusiasm from the competition. As
much as you get a positive feeling of accomplishment seeing your flight on
the Net, going through the effort of uploading a flight, without it
working and without receiving any decent error message results in a very
negative feeling.

If you look through the news page of the hang glider / paraglider section
of the competition, you will see that they are close to breaking point.

Last year we beat our local rival club in South Africa on the OLC by just
60 points. Our club is encouraging all pilots to post flights. My missing
flight from last night was worth over 200 points and I don't expect it
will get scored now.

These teething issues may be inconvenient for pilots in the Northern
hemisphere, but south of the equator, where we are entering the peak of
the soaring season this is just not fair.

Win or lose, the results are no longer relevant. So why bother?


Ian

[soarski]

Mike the Strike wrote:
> On posting my short cross-country flight to the OLC yesterday, I noted
> only six claimed for the whole of North America. I find this a bit on
> the low side (the whole population of the USA can't have been full of
> turkey and out shopping). Did no-one fly yesterday, or are the OLC
> posting problems deterring claims?
>
> For late November, it wasn't too bad in Arizona - it's unusual to see
> dust devils this close to year's end, though.
>
> Mike

There you go, you are saying it is unusual. For all the sweating you
do in the Summer you are getting some extra Flights this time of the
year.

Our airport was not even IFR for almost 3 days and we are playing in
the snow, 2 feet worth.
Time for the Southern hemisphere to shine!

Dieter

You will need your sweater tomorrow night!