IFR ??? Country Road Question

[T Lee Buyea Fla News Service]

IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean

" I Follow Railroad Tracks? "

Actually my real question as an avionics technician and not a pilot is
out in the wide open spaces in the USA where people like veterinarians
use small planes to reach farms in a large area they cover.
Is it legal to land a small plane on a completely vacant of traffic
country road ? And legal or not do they do it anyway ?


Please send a copy of the answer to me also at

Thank You
Thomas Buyea, Miami, Fl. USA

[Doug[_1_]]

It depends on the law of the government entity that has juridiction
over the road or highway. State or county laws apply, usually. And
these laws vary. The FAA does not have a law against it, but if you got
into an accident, they might use the "careless and reckless" paragraph
against him.

[Jim Macklin]

Ranchers have pastures, fields and farm roads. Many even
have private airstrips. Public roads have too many
obstacles such as power lines, telephone poles and mail
boxes, to say nothing about vehicular traffic.

If a public road is needed, the sheriff or state police will
usually close the road and even take down signs and such, at
least they did in Oklahoma when we flew Barons, Bonanzas and
even King Airs in for an oil show, used the highway and
taxied into the fair grounds.


"T Lee Buyea Fla News Service" > wrote
in message
...
|
| IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean
|
| " I Follow Railroad Tracks? "
|
| Actually my real question as an avionics technician and
not a pilot is
| out in the wide open spaces in the USA where people like
veterinarians
| use small planes to reach farms in a large area they
cover.
| Is it legal to land a small plane on a completely vacant
of traffic
| country road ? And legal or not do they do it anyway ?
|
|
| Please send a copy of the answer to me also at

|
| Thank You
| Thomas Buyea, Miami, Fl. USA
|

[steve[_1_]]

When I lived in Hawaii, I remember a news report of a guy that landed his
single engine plane on a dirt road near his girlfriends apartment complex,
as in > 1,000 feet away.

The FAA got cranky with him, until they figured out that he did his
homework.
1. he got permission from the owner of the private road
2. it was at least 1000 feet from any congested area
3. he landed coming in from the ocean and took off towards the ocean and it
was a waterfront road.
4. this was about 26 years ago and the regulations were less stringent

pretty cool.


"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
...
> Ranchers have pastures, fields and farm roads. Many even
> have private airstrips. Public roads have too many
> obstacles such as power lines, telephone poles and mail
> boxes, to say nothing about vehicular traffic.
>
> If a public road is needed, the sheriff or state police will
> usually close the road and even take down signs and such, at
> least they did in Oklahoma when we flew Barons, Bonanzas and
> even King Airs in for an oil show, used the highway and
> taxied into the fair grounds.
>
>
> "T Lee Buyea Fla News Service" > wrote
> in message
> ...
> |
> | IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean
> |
> | " I Follow Railroad Tracks? "
> |
> | Actually my real question as an avionics technician and
> not a pilot is
> | out in the wide open spaces in the USA where people like
> veterinarians
> | use small planes to reach farms in a large area they
> cover.
> | Is it legal to land a small plane on a completely vacant
> of traffic
> | country road ? And legal or not do they do it anyway ?
> |
> |
> | Please send a copy of the answer to me also at
>
> |
> | Thank You
> | Thomas Buyea, Miami, Fl. USA
> |
>
>

[Al G[_1_]]

"T Lee Buyea Fla News Service" > wrote in message
...
>
> IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean
>
> " I Follow Railroad Tracks? "
>
> Actually my real question as an avionics technician and not a pilot is
> out in the wide open spaces in the USA where people like veterinarians
> use small planes to reach farms in a large area they cover.
> Is it legal to land a small plane on a completely vacant of traffic
> country road ? And legal or not do they do it anyway ?
>
>
> Please send a copy of the answer to me also at
>
> Thank You
> Thomas Buyea, Miami, Fl. USA
>

My wife is from Nevada. I have used the highway into town as a runway
many times, parked next to the Bar at the edge of town. The road is
perfectly straight for about 7 or 8 miles, and it is easy to check for
vehicular traffic. There are no power lines or cross traffic for over thirty
miles. I've talked with the local sheriff, and he has no problem as long as
resonable safety precautions are used. The bar owner thought having an
airplane outside was an attraction.

Al G

[N2310D]

"Al G" > wrote in message
...
>
> "T Lee Buyea Fla News Service" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean
>>
>> " I Follow Railroad Tracks? "
>>

...or I Follow Roads.

[john smith]

In article >,
"Al G" > wrote:

> My wife is from Nevada. I have used the highway into town as a runway
> many times, parked next to the Bar at the edge of town. The road is
> perfectly straight for about 7 or 8 miles, and it is easy to check for
> vehicular traffic. There are no power lines or cross traffic for over thirty
> miles. I've talked with the local sheriff, and he has no problem as long as
> resonable safety precautions are used. The bar owner thought having an
> airplane outside was an attraction.

Is it eight hours bottle to throttle and no smoking within 100 feet of
the airplane, or no drinking with 100 feet of the airplane and no
smoking eight hours before flying?

[Tony]

There are a few minor issues. Is the airplane wearing a suitable
registration plate?

Was his touchdown speed at less than the speed limit?

He stayed in his lane, didn't he?

Then there are things like brake lights, turn signals, insurance cards.
.. .

Your citations may not be from the FAA, but there could be a bunch of
them!








On Nov 28, 11:59 am, "N2310D" > wrote:
> "Al G" > wrote in ...
>
>
>
> > "T Lee Buyea Fla News Service" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> >> IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean
>
> >> " I Follow Railroad Tracks? " ...or I Follow Roads.

[Jose[_1_]]

> Is it eight hours bottle to throttle and no smoking within 100 feet of
> the airplane, or no drinking with 100 feet of the airplane and no
> smoking eight hours before flying?

It's eight bottles before you hit the throttle, and leave the runway
smoking.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Al G" > wrote:
>
>> My wife is from Nevada. I have used the highway into town as a runway
>> many times, parked next to the Bar at the edge of town. The road is
>> perfectly straight for about 7 or 8 miles, and it is easy to check for
>> vehicular traffic. There are no power lines or cross traffic for over
>> thirty
>> miles. I've talked with the local sheriff, and he has no problem as long
>> as
>> resonable safety precautions are used. The bar owner thought having an
>> airplane outside was an attraction.
>
> Is it eight hours bottle to throttle and no smoking within 100 feet of
> the airplane, or no drinking with 100 feet of the airplane and no
> smoking eight hours before flying?

You didn't expect him to DRIVE home in that condition did you?

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"T Lee Buyea Fla News Service" > wrote in message
...
>
> IFR ? -- Doesn't that mean
>
> " I Follow Railroad Tracks? "
>
> Actually my real question as an avionics technician and not a pilot is
> out in the wide open spaces in the USA where people like veterinarians
> use small planes to reach farms in a large area they cover.
> Is it legal to land a small plane on a completely vacant of traffic
> country road ? And legal or not do they do it anyway ?
>
>
> Please send a copy of the answer to me also at
>
> Thank You
> Thomas Buyea, Miami, Fl. USA
>

There are exceptions, but, in general, roads are a bad idea. I've never
landed on one, but I have move an aircraft a couple miles down a two lane
country road - It was surprising how many things are less than 1/2 a
wingspan apart from the middle of the road.

(The airplane (Navion) had been landed in a field and we were moving it to a
sod farm that had a "runway" down the middle)

One time it worked out (for someone else):
http://thenewsherald.com/stories/122105/loc_20051221001.shtml

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[[email protected]]

This is probably one of the strangest places for IFR

One minute... Ceilings 2000 light rain, visibility 3 miles
Next minute... Ceiling 200 heavy rain, visibility 0 (might as well be)

But on a serious note; When Hawaiian Airlines (Inter-Island Airways in
1929) started flying when they encountered IMC the pilots would descend
to about 80 feet and fly IFR (I Follow Reefs), where they would use the
white surf generated by a reef to circumvent an island, when it would
clear up enough to fly IFR they were back at it.

This tactic got used with DC-3s during WWII also, as the government
decided to shut down all navigational aids and beacons... bummer.

[Darkwing]

"Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message
news:sdGdnbLH_psLX_HYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@wideopenwest .com...
> "john smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >,
>> "Al G" > wrote:
>>
>>> My wife is from Nevada. I have used the highway into town as a runway
>>> many times, parked next to the Bar at the edge of town. The road is
>>> perfectly straight for about 7 or 8 miles, and it is easy to check for
>>> vehicular traffic. There are no power lines or cross traffic for over
>>> thirty
>>> miles. I've talked with the local sheriff, and he has no problem as long
>>> as
>>> resonable safety precautions are used. The bar owner thought having an
>>> airplane outside was an attraction.
>>
>> Is it eight hours bottle to throttle and no smoking within 100 feet of
>> the airplane, or no drinking with 100 feet of the airplane and no
>> smoking eight hours before flying?
>
> You didn't expect him to DRIVE home in that condition did you?
>
> --
> Geoff


I've seen Cannonball run, you can drive a jet with no wings on the
interstate.

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