Grand Canyon West Airport - 1G4

[Dan[_1_]]

All,

Has anyone ever flown in here? I've heard conflicting reports of being
able to just walk over to the rim of the canyon. Does anyone know if
it's possible and/or have suggestions?

Thanks,
Dan

[Jay Beckman]

"Dan" > wrote in message
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> All,
>
> Has anyone ever flown in here? I've heard conflicting reports of being
> able to just walk over to the rim of the canyon. Does anyone know if
> it's possible and/or have suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>

Hi Dan,

According to what I read recently (I believe it was over at AirNav), you are
not allowed to just wander over to the rim of the Canyon anymore. IIRC, you
used to be able to at one time, but they no longer allow it. Now, I think
you have to be part of a tour or have alternate permission. However, most
who opined did write that the arial views in the vicinity of 1G4 are
awesome.

Where are you flying out of? I'm a club flyer based at Stellar Airpark
(P19.)

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

[Mxsmanic]

Jay Beckman writes:

> According to what I read recently (I believe it was over at AirNav), you are
> not allowed to just wander over to the rim of the Canyon anymore. IIRC, you
> used to be able to at one time, but they no longer allow it. Now, I think
> you have to be part of a tour or have alternate permission. However, most
> who opined did write that the arial views in the vicinity of 1G4 are
> awesome.

The rim runs for hundreds of miles, and that vast majority of that is
unfenced. I don't see how anyone could be prevented from walking over
to the rim. Maybe there might be a small fence near the airport, but
if you walk far enough, the fence stops.

I still recall walking through fairly thick forest on the South Rim
when I came upon a clearing, and discovered that the clearing was in
fact a 1000-foot drop off the edge of the Grand Canyon. I wonder how
the first explorers to see the canyon felt when they stumbled upon it.

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Jay Beckman wrote:
>
> According to what I read recently (I believe it was over at AirNav), you are
> not allowed to just wander over to the rim of the Canyon anymore. IIRC, you
> used to be able to at one time, but they no longer allow it. Now, I think
> you have to be part of a tour or have alternate permission. However, most
> who opined did write that the arial views in the vicinity of 1G4 are
> awesome.
>
> Where are you flying out of? I'm a club flyer based at Stellar Airpark
> (P19.)
>
> Jay Beckman
> PP-ASEL
> Chandler, AZ

Jay, what kind of drugs are you on? The canyon is a national park, and
there are walkways all along the rim, not to mention hundreds of miles
of trails that go down into the canyon. I can't believe you can live
in Chandler and be so mis-informed.

Dean

[Tony Cox]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
>
> Jay Beckman wrote:
> >
> > According to what I read recently (I believe it was over at AirNav), you are
> > not allowed to just wander over to the rim of the Canyon anymore. IIRC, you
> > used to be able to at one time, but they no longer allow it. Now, I think
> > you have to be part of a tour or have alternate permission. However, most
> > who opined did write that the arial views in the vicinity of 1G4 are
> > awesome.
> >
> > Where are you flying out of? I'm a club flyer based at Stellar Airpark
> > (P19.)
> >
> > Jay Beckman
> > PP-ASEL
> > Chandler, AZ
>
> Jay, what kind of drugs are you on? The canyon is a national park, and
> there are walkways all along the rim, not to mention hundreds of miles
> of trails that go down into the canyon. I can't believe you can live
> in Chandler and be so mis-informed.

Grand Canyon _West_ airport is on the Hualapai
Indian reservation, and they make their own rules.

Last time I was there, access to the rim wasn't possible.
They like you to take their bus tour, no doubt to top-up tribal
funds.

[Jay Beckman]

> wrote in message
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>
> Jay Beckman wrote:
>>
>> According to what I read recently (I believe it was over at AirNav), you
>> are
>> not allowed to just wander over to the rim of the Canyon anymore. IIRC,
>> you
>> used to be able to at one time, but they no longer allow it. Now, I
>> think
>> you have to be part of a tour or have alternate permission. However,
>> most
>> who opined did write that the arial views in the vicinity of 1G4 are
>> awesome.
>>
>> Where are you flying out of? I'm a club flyer based at Stellar Airpark
>> (P19.)
>>
>> Jay Beckman
>> PP-ASEL
>> Chandler, AZ
>
> Jay, what kind of drugs are you on? The canyon is a national park, and
> there are walkways all along the rim, not to mention hundreds of miles
> of trails that go down into the canyon. I can't believe you can live
> in Chandler and be so mis-informed.
>
> Dean
>

Hey...

No **** Sherlock...I'm completely aware of the facilities present at the
Grand Canyon and that it's a National Park.

But we aren't talking about the entire canyon. Did you even read the
original post? The OP asked about doing a specific thing from a specific
airport:
"Can you land at Grand Canyon West (1G4) and walk to the rim."

From what I dug up, it would seem the answer is NO. If you don't want to
believe me, go read the Goddamn posts yourself:

http://www.airnav.com/airport/1G4/A#c

And if you happen to know differently, why don't you say so instead of
jumping down my throat?

*PLONK*

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

[Mike Adams[_2_]]

"Jay Beckman" > wrote:

> No **** Sherlock...

Good response, Jay. After all the noise on this group lately with the sim discussions, I thought maybe
there would actually be an interesting or informative thread. Guess not.

I've never been to 1G4 myself, but I've heard the same thing - the Indians now charge for the tour as a
source of revenue. Basically the same as the Havasupai canyon hiking permits - ain't nothin comes for
free anymore. The comments on Airnav are consistent with this, although I see there's nothing there very
recent.

Mike