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john smith
December 2nd 06, 04:01 PM
Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
US Friday?
How baddly did you get hit?
Jay Honeck
December 2nd 06, 04:15 PM
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
It wasn't just the Eastern US -- the storm *just* missed us. Keokuk, a
short hop from here, got 6+ inches of the white stuff, and the Quad
Cities got even more. We just got cold, cold, cold.
My hometown didn't fare so well. Racine/Kenosha, WI got BURIED with 16
inches of snow! (They can keep it! :-) And, of course, Chicago
got slammed.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Jim Macklin
December 2nd 06, 04:18 PM
Family in Illinois, no power expected for 4-5 more days.
Other friends in same town have power back already.
Lots of trees down, power lines down but still working.
Lots of tree limbs supported by power and telephone lines.
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
| Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled
up the eastern
| US Friday?
| How baddly did you get hit?
Eric Bartsch
December 2nd 06, 05:17 PM
On Dec 2, 11:01 am, john smith > wrote:
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
Strangely enough, Toledo Ohio got completely missed by the storm. We
were supposed to get snow all day yesterday and overnight, but we got
only rain. Today actually looks like a great VFR day. I hear that parts
of Michigan not too far North of us got hit with quite a bit.
Grumman-581[_1_]
December 2nd 06, 05:42 PM
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:01:32 GMT, john smith > wrote:
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
A 40 degree change in temperature from one day to the next... It makes
it even seem a bit like winter here... I actually had to switch from
shorts and a polo shirt to long pants and a polo shirt...
Blanche
December 2nd 06, 05:48 PM
And those of us in the Time Zone Everyone Forgets About (Or doesn't even
know exists) had the storm earlier this week. But since most of us
understand about snow and storms, it was pretty much a non-event in
the non-local news. Did DIA have delays? yup. Did people get stuck in
the snow on icy roads? yup. Did CDOT (Colorado Dept of Transportation)
not get enough of the trucks out early enough to plow? yup. Did the
ski areas get 12-24 inches of snow? yup.
I am baffled by the astonishment everyone shows when the storms
hit. It's winter in the Northern Latitudes. Is any of this a surprise?
Around here, the big news was that Jay Cutler is going to
start this Sunday instead of Jake Plummer. (so what?)
Grumman-581[_1_]
December 2nd 06, 06:25 PM
On 02 Dec 2006 17:48:14 GMT, Blanche > wrote:
> I am baffled by the astonishment everyone shows when the storms
> hit. It's winter in the Northern Latitudes. Is any of this a surprise?
When Houston gets snow, it's surprising since it only happens every
10-20 years... Of course, our definition of getting snow is what might
just be classified as a frost by other parts of the country... Hell,
when I was up in Iowa on the Rockwell contract, I had 4" of snow on
the hood of my truck one morning... The locals just called that a
"dusting"... Around here, that would shut down the city for a couple
of days...
Jay Honeck
December 2nd 06, 06:28 PM
> I am baffled by the astonishment everyone shows when the storms
> hit. It's winter in the Northern Latitudes. Is any of this a surprise?
*chuckle* Yep, the first big snow storm of the season always brings
out the breathless reporters and endless video of cars in the ditch.
I think it's because of our relatively snow-less winters the past 20
years or so. Now (as opposed to the 60s and 70s) a big snowstorm is
an event. Back then, it was just another day...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Ron Wanttaja
December 2nd 06, 06:42 PM
Seattle area also got hit by snow and low temperatures, very unusual for this
area, following massive amounts of rain.
Just an inch or two on the roofs in my neighborhood on the south side of the
area, though...
http://www.wanttaja.com/sunrise_shadow.jpg
Ron Wanttaja
Scott Post
December 2nd 06, 08:08 PM
In article . com>,
Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
>It wasn't just the Eastern US -- the storm *just* missed us. Keokuk, a
>short hop from here, got 6+ inches of the white stuff, and the Quad
>Cities got even more. We just got cold, cold, cold.
>
>
The snow missed us in central Indiana yesterday. We got plenty of rain
and high wind though. I was going to take the Cub out this afternoon
but there's a lake in the hanger and rivers running across the grass
strip in several places. I'll get up tommorrow if the runway freezes and
the water in the hanger recedes a bit (and doesn't freeze the wheels in
place). Going to be a bit chilly in the Cub if it's in the 30's.
--
Scott Post
Jim Macklin
December 2nd 06, 08:40 PM
And there are many different kinds of snow. We got anywhere
from 5" to a foot of snow in south-central Kansas (Wichita
was officially 5.5 " at the airport, nearby cities reported
over a foot just a little east of here.).
It was nice and light and powdery, but a friend in
Springfield, Illinois reported that he spent the whole day
with truck and tractor moving 14 inches of very heavy wet
snow.
And then there may be an inch or two of freezing rain under
the snow and on the power lines and trees.
Some will shout GLOBAL WARMING, but it really just solar
variations. The whole solar system is getting measurably
hotter and the Mars Rovers are getting lots more solar power
than what was expected.
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
|> I am baffled by the astonishment everyone shows when the
storms
| > hit. It's winter in the Northern Latitudes. Is any of
this a surprise?
|
| *chuckle* Yep, the first big snow storm of the season
always brings
| out the breathless reporters and endless video of cars in
the ditch.
|
| I think it's because of our relatively snow-less winters
the past 20
| years or so. Now (as opposed to the 60s and 70s) a big
snowstorm is
| an event. Back then, it was just another day...
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|
Tony
December 2nd 06, 11:08 PM
Makes you wonder how it affected those flying simulators, doesn't it?
On Dec 2, 11:01 am, john smith > wrote:
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
john smith
December 2nd 06, 11:26 PM
In article >,
"Jim Macklin" > wrote:
> Some will shout GLOBAL WARMING, but it really just solar
> variations. The whole solar system is getting measurably
> hotter and the Mars Rovers are getting lots more solar power
> than what was expected.
Actually, it is an El Nino. This year's formed later in the year, at the
end of August, which is what blunted the hurricane season.
Jim Macklin
December 3rd 06, 12:12 AM
El Nino doesn't make Mars warmer or Pluto. The oceans warm
more because of volcanic activity than solar when it comes
to local surface hit spots. Again, these have nothing to do
with Al Gore or any human activity.
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
| In article >,
| "Jim Macklin" >
wrote:
|
| > Some will shout GLOBAL WARMING, but it really just solar
| > variations. The whole solar system is getting
measurably
| > hotter and the Mars Rovers are getting lots more solar
power
| > than what was expected.
|
| Actually, it is an El Nino. This year's formed later in
the year, at the
| end of August, which is what blunted the hurricane season.
Darkwing
December 3rd 06, 02:34 AM
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
45mph wind gust on my backyard wind meter, fastest I have had in 2 years of
owning it. Lots of trees uprooted, signs down, semis blown over, crazy.
Matt Barrow
December 3rd 06, 03:35 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> I am baffled by the astonishment everyone shows when the storms
>> hit. It's winter in the Northern Latitudes. Is any of this a surprise?
>
> *chuckle* Yep, the first big snow storm of the season always brings
> out the breathless reporters and endless video of cars in the ditch.
We didn't get much snow (we don't, down in the valley here, but we broke a
record set in 1931 for cold, -6F.
--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)
Gene Seibel
December 3rd 06, 04:06 AM
john smith wrote:
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
Yes, but not like you think. ;) Wife took me to the St Louis airport to
catch a Southwest flight to Phoenix on Thursday morning. Sat in plane
on ramp for 3 hours waiting for a weather report that did not include
BOTH ice pellets and freezing rain. Went back to gate. After 2 hours we
were lined up for departure at the gate and crew was paged. Crew
arrived and said no way will we fly. Waited 1 more hour after which
flight was finally cancelled. Wife could not get back the 28 miles to
pick me up because of jacknifed semis on I-270 and general ice. Power
went off at home and was off for 24 hours. I got into a hotel across
the street from the airport. Fortunately there were a lot of
cancellations because fo flights that did not get into STL. Back on
another flight Friday at 7 am. Sat on plane waiting for deice. Airline
ran out of deicing fluid. Truckload expected in at noon. Truck arrived.
Wrong kind of fluid. 2 pm flight finally cancelled. After 7 hours on
plane passengers nearly rioted. We were confirmed on 8:50 pm flight.
That flight schedule slipped to 10:25 pm. Southwest rerouted a flight
from Birmingham to Phoenix to STL to pick us up at 6:15 pm, causing
many more unhappy passengers. After 39 hours we made it to Phoenix.
I felt very sorry for Southwest pilots. On Thursday airline lined us up
for departure obviously without consulting pilots. On Friday our pilot
found out that the flight was cancelled from a passenger. There is
obviously extremely poor communication at Southwest.
GA rules!
--
Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because we fly, we envy no one.
Morgans[_2_]
December 3rd 06, 04:12 AM
"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
> Seattle area also got hit by snow and low temperatures, very unusual for this
> area, following massive amounts of rain.
>
> Just an inch or two on the roofs in my neighborhood on the south side of the
> area, though...
>
> http://www.wanttaja.com/sunrise_shadow.jpg
That is a B-ea-utiful picture, Ron!
--
Jim in NC
Morgans[_2_]
December 3rd 06, 04:13 AM
"Tony" > wrote
....
> Makes you wonder how it affected those flying simulators, doesn't it?
Really?
NO !!! <g>
--
Jim in NC
Morgans[_2_]
December 3rd 06, 04:15 AM
"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote
> 45mph wind gust on my backyard wind meter, fastest I have had in 2 years of
> owning it. Lots of trees uprooted, signs down, semis blown over, crazy.
Really? Where do you live?
A 45 mph gust in two years makes me think you live in a sheltered area, or your
meter is way off. A 45 MPH wind does not usually blow over semis, ect.
--
Jim in NC
Greg Farris
December 3rd 06, 06:29 AM
In article . com>,
says...
>
>It wasn't just the Eastern US -- the storm *just* missed us. Keokuk, a
>short hop from here, got 6+ inches of the white stuff, and the Quad
>Cities got even more. We just got cold, cold, cold.
>
Well, you've had your share this past year!!
Jay Honeck
December 3rd 06, 12:57 PM
> Really? Where do you live?
>
> A 45 mph gust in two years makes me think you live in a sheltered area, or your
> meter is way off. A 45 MPH wind does not usually blow over semis, ect.
I was thinking the same thing. Shoot, during the spring we'll get
gusts to 45 pretty regularly -- and storms with winds over 60
routinely.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Jay Honeck
December 3rd 06, 01:02 PM
> GA rules!
Amen, brother...to a point.
In conditions like you describe, I'm happy to let the heavy metal and
the pros do the flying. Of course, NOTHING was flying during the worst
of that ice.
My buddy in Springfield, IL says they only got two inches of snow --
but over an inch of ice. Entire trees and power poles were snapped
off like twigs, and he was on generator power (he lives in a rural
area) for 24 hours.
I'm really, REALLY glad it missed us!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
Blueskies
December 3rd 06, 01:03 PM
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
: Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
: US Friday?
: How baddly did you get hit?
I was weathered in and grounded, but I am at home at 4n0...freezing rain, snow to about 5"...pretty amazing how little
of the storm actually hit us compared to what happened all around...
Blueskies
December 3rd 06, 02:11 PM
"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message ...
: Seattle area also got hit by snow and low temperatures, very unusual for this
: area, following massive amounts of rain.
:
: Just an inch or two on the roofs in my neighborhood on the south side of the
: area, though...
:
: http://www.wanttaja.com/sunrise_shadow.jpg
:
: Ron Wanttaja
Now that is a low pass!
cpw
December 3rd 06, 02:54 PM
> How baddly did you get hit?
About a foot of the white stuff in northern Michigan...
Gotta love it!
CPW
Jim Burns
December 3rd 06, 03:48 PM
Not a flake here, everything was south of us.
Jim
"john smith" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
Darkwing
December 3rd 06, 10:09 PM
"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote
>
>> 45mph wind gust on my backyard wind meter, fastest I have had in 2 years
>> of owning it. Lots of trees uprooted, signs down, semis blown over,
>> crazy.
>
> Really? Where do you live?
>
> A 45 mph gust in two years makes me think you live in a sheltered area, or
> your meter is way off. A 45 MPH wind does not usually blow over semis,
> ect.
> --
> Jim in NC
Indy, my weather station is in my backyard but I do live in a neighborhood.
I would like to put the weather station on the roof of my house but I'm
trying to not look like white trash...
Peter R.
December 3rd 06, 10:29 PM
Darkwing <heducksmailTyahoo.com> wrote:
> I would like to put the weather station on the roof of my house but I'm
> trying to not look like white trash...
Really? Weather stations are like couches on the front porch? I want to
put up a weather station on the side of my house some day but didn't
realize there was a stigma associated with 'em.
--
Peter
Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe
December 3rd 06, 11:45 PM
"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Darkwing <heducksmailTyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to put the weather station on the roof of my house but I'm
>> trying to not look like white trash...
>
> Really? Weather stations are like couches on the front porch? I want to
> put up a weather station on the side of my house some day but didn't
> realize there was a stigma associated with 'em.
>
I would think you would want to put them where they are out in the open to
measure wind speed.
Do they make any with magnetic mounts that I could stick on the roof of one
of the parts cars in the front yard?
:-)
--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
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Dave[_5_]
December 4th 06, 02:15 AM
I really lucked out. I went from Rapid City, SD to Asheville, NC by way
of Minneapolis (by airline), and the roads/runways were clear and dry
at all three.
Montblack
December 4th 06, 02:16 AM
("john smith" wrote)
> Anyone on the group weathered in by the storm that rolled up the eastern
> US Friday?
> How baddly did you get hit?
The Twin Cities (St Paul/Minneapolis) saw nothing to speak of - single digit
temps, that's all.
Montblack
Darkwing
December 5th 06, 08:16 PM
"Peter R." > wrote in message
...
> Darkwing <heducksmailTyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to put the weather station on the roof of my house but I'm
>> trying to not look like white trash...
>
> Really? Weather stations are like couches on the front porch? I want to
> put up a weather station on the side of my house some day but didn't
> realize there was a stigma associated with 'em.
>
> --
> Peter
Call me crazy but this on the roof would look a bit odd IMO. This is the
station I have.
http://www.frederickgoertz.com/images/geophysical/Davis-Weather-Station.jpg
---------------------------------
DW
Jose[_1_]
December 5th 06, 08:42 PM
> Call me crazy but this on the roof would look a bit odd IMO. This is the
> station I have.
>
> http://www.frederickgoertz.com/images/geophysical/Davis-Weather-Station.jpg
My neighbor has something like that on his roof.
Jose
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Morgans[_2_]
December 5th 06, 10:53 PM
"Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> wrote
> Call me crazy but this on the roof would look a bit odd IMO. This is the
> station I have.
>
> http://www.frederickgoertz.com/images/geophysical/Davis-Weather-Station.jpg
It would look like someone who was an amateur meteorologist buff lived under
that roof. Nothing redneck in that, at all, IMHO.
Would you say that a radio station, or a FBO looked more like a redneck place,
with one of those setups on the roof? I don't think so.
Put it where it will work. Otherwise, you are wasting it's capabilities. You
might want to see about putting the temperature sensor elsewhere, if that is
possible. The roof is a bad place, for a couple reasons. The rain collector
could be put lower than the ridge, so it is not visible from the road. All that
needs to be on a pole above the roof is the wind equipment.
--
Jim in NC
Grumman-581[_1_]
December 6th 06, 12:24 AM
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:53:27 -0500, in >,
Morgans wrote:
> Would you say that a radio station, or a FBO looked more like a redneck
> place, with one of those setups on the roof?
I know of a local grass strip runway that has people who live along it
where I've notice a aircraft up on blocks in the front yard... Does that
count as a redneck fly-in/fly-out community?
Morgans[_2_]
December 6th 06, 01:55 AM
"Grumman-581" > wrote
>
> I know of a local grass strip runway that has people who live along it
> where I've notice a aircraft up on blocks in the front yard... Does that
> count as a redneck fly-in/fly-out community?
Only if the grass is so tall that you can only see the rudder sticking up from
the grass.
Added points if there are a couple broken lawn mowers, sitting with it! <g>
--
Jim in NC
DaveB
December 6th 06, 02:10 AM
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:24:50 GMT, Grumman-581
> wrote:
>On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:53:27 -0500, in >,
>Morgans wrote:
>> Would you say that a radio station, or a FBO looked more like a redneck
>> place, with one of those setups on the roof?
>
>I know of a local grass strip runway that has people who live along it
>where I've notice a aircraft up on blocks in the front yard... Does that
>count as a redneck fly-in/fly-out community?
Is the pit bull chained to the landing gear?
Daveb
Grumman-581[_1_]
December 6th 06, 02:54 AM
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:10:36 +0000, in
>, wrote:
> Is the pit bull chained to the landing gear?
Nawh, otherwise, it wouldn't still be up on the blocks...
Seems that most dogs, if you chain them to a post or something, will wrap
themselves around it to the point where there is less than a foot of chain
still left... My current dog is pretty bad about trying to dig underneath
a fence, so at one time, I had him on a very long chain with a loop on one
end that was tossed over a 1" thick solid piece of round steel driven 30"
into the ground and sticking up about 18"... The loop prevented the
chain from wrapping around the post... It took a bit of doing to position
the post so that he could not loop around a tree or anything... Hell, he
could somehow manage to find the single twig in that section of yard and
get it wrapped around it... Eventually, I convinced him that getting close
to the fence was not a good idea after I ran an livestock type electrical
wire around it...
Grumman-581[_1_]
December 6th 06, 02:56 AM
On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:55:36 -0500, in >,
Morgans wrote:
> Only if the grass is so tall that you can only see the rudder sticking
> up from the grass.
Nawh, the yard is well mowed... Might just be his "parts plane"... It's
been awhile since I've been over there, so I don't remember if the wings
were still on it...
Montblack
December 6th 06, 12:32 PM
("Morgans" wrote)
>> I know of a local grass strip runway that has people who live along it
>> where I've notice a aircraft up on blocks in the front yard... Does that
>> count as a redneck fly-in/fly-out community?
>
> Only if the grass is so tall that you can only see the rudder sticking up
> from the grass.
>
> Added points if there are a couple broken lawn mowers, sitting with it!
> <g>
Add even more points if there's an ex-wife's second cousin living in it.
Montblack
Or would that be.... "living out of it?" :-)
Matt Barrow
December 6th 06, 01:30 PM
"Grumman-581" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 17:53:27 -0500, in >,
> Morgans wrote:
>> Would you say that a radio station, or a FBO looked more like a redneck
>> place, with one of those setups on the roof?
>
> I know of a local grass strip runway that has people who live along it
> where I've notice a aircraft up on blocks in the front yard... Does that
> count as a redneck fly-in/fly-out community?
Trailer...uh, ah, hangar trash!
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