Getting rid of MXSMANIC

[[email protected]]

The only solution to this numbskull is ignoring him... I beg you all,
please do, this newsgroup is pointless if the sort of discussions he
creates continue to exist.

[karl gruber[_1_]]

> wrote in message
ps.com...
> The only solution to this numbskull is ignoring him... I beg you all,
> please do, this newsgroup is pointless if the sort of discussions he
> creates continue to exist.
>

You're just jealous because he has more aviation knowledge than you do.

Karl

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
"karl gruber" > wrote:

> You're just jealous because he has more aviation knowledge than you do.

not possible.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[[email protected]]

I request the same treatment of karl grueber as I do of mxsmanic.

[karl gruber[_1_]]

You're even dumber than I thought. You can't even copy and paste!

Karl
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>I request the same treatment of karl grueber as I do of mxsmanic.
>

[Kev]

wrote:
> I request the same treatment of karl grueber as I do of mxsmanic.

Oh sure, we're all good net troopers and will do whatever you say.
Heh. Not.

Mx is just a typical teenager who's talking more from technical reading
rather than from life experience. Big deal. If you're a grown up, you
can easily deal with that.

The real goofballs here are people who insult him without real
provocation. Who take his answers too personally. Who often reply
with obviously less knowledge. Who reply with one sentence barbs,
showing their lack of arguing skills.

Take a deep breath, walk away from the computer for a day or two, then
come back and contribute. This is Usenet. It's not real life.

Regards, Kev

[[email protected]]

> Oh sure, we're all good net troopers and will do whatever you say.
> Heh. Not.
>
> Mx is just a typical teenager who's talking more from technical reading
> rather than from life experience. Big deal. If you're a grown up, you
> can easily deal with that.
>
> The real goofballs here are people who insult him without real
> provocation. Who take his answers too personally. Who often reply
> with obviously less knowledge. Who reply with one sentence barbs,
> showing their lack of arguing skills.
>
> Take a deep breath, walk away from the computer for a day or two, then
> come back and contribute. This is Usenet. It's not real life.


Regardless... it's here for purposes other than satisfying a "teenage"
socipaths fantasies... my list just earned another name.

[Kev]

wrote:
> > Take a deep breath, walk away from the computer for a day or two, then
> > come back and contribute. This is Usenet. It's not real life.
>
> Regardless... it's here for purposes other than satisfying a "teenage"
> socipaths fantasies...

Sociopathic? "A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of
the rights of others, and inability or unwillingness to conform to what
are considered to be the norms of society. " Mx might fit the
latter half, but those trying to blacklist him nail the first part.

> my list just earned another name.

Joe McCarthy would be so proud. Fortunately, such grade-schoolish
lists are meaningless here, and are actually downright silly because we
can't stop anyone from posting. Far better to do what a lot of us
do... we simply rarely respond on his topics unless it's to try to stop
people bashing for no reason. Why those who do take offense at
Anthony also continue to read and respond to him is beyond any thinking
person's comprehension. But those who want to reply to him, certainly
can.

My late uncle served with the later Flying Tigers, got a Bronze star,
could fly and horseride circles around anyone I've ever met, and
retired as a General. He's got his own display corner at the NJ
Aviation Hall of Fame. He had all the Right Stuff. I can tell you
that he'd be ashamed to be around any pilots that attack freedom of
speech. Anyone should be.

I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to see
that on the net.

Kev

[Blanche]

Kev > wrote:
>Take a deep breath, walk away from the computer for a day or two, then
>come back and contribute. This is Usenet. It's not real life.


Usenet...a reality sim!

[Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]]

wrote:
> Regardless... it's here for purposes other than satisfying a "teenage"
> socipaths fantasies... my list just earned another name.


There's nothing to be gained by announcing loudly that you're adding another
name to your list. Just block them and watch your signal to noise ratio start
to climb.


--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

[alexy]

" > wrote:

>> Oh sure, we're all good net troopers and will do whatever you say.
>> Heh. Not.
>>
>> Mx is just a typical teenager who's talking more from technical reading
>> rather than from life experience. Big deal. If you're a grown up, you
>> can easily deal with that.
>>
>> The real goofballs here are people who insult him without real
>> provocation. Who take his answers too personally. Who often reply
>> with obviously less knowledge. Who reply with one sentence barbs,
>> showing their lack of arguing skills.
>>
>> Take a deep breath, walk away from the computer for a day or two, then
>> come back and contribute. This is Usenet. It's not real life.
>
>
>Regardless... it's here for purposes other than satisfying a "teenage"
>socipaths fantasies... my list just earned another name.

Hey, can I sign up for that list, too?
Seriously, get a life. If you don't like his posts, filter him and
mark his posts, or the whole thread if you prefer, as "read". Big boys
can do that all by themselves--no need to solicit others to join you.
I'm sure many have figured that all by themselves.
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

[alexy]

Nomen Nescio > wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>From: "Kev" >
>
>>This is Usenet. It's not real life.
>
>Ah yes. The ultimate justification for assholes to act like assholes.
>"I'm not an asshole in REAL LIFE, I just play one on USENET".
>
>Here's my thoughts on this. Usenet IS real life. It's an odd facet of
>real life, but it is real life.
>
>I don't think I'm the only real human that posts here. Are the rest of
>you just some computer generated AI simulation? Maybe I'm naive,
>but I always thought there were real people on usenet. There are
>real smart people.....there are real idiots. There are real nice folks....
>there are some real assholes. And there are a lot of real people who
>are somewhere in between.
>
>I also tend to think that if you're an idiot on usenet, you're probably
>an idiot in (so called) "real life". Maybe a more subdued idiot, but still
>an idiot. The same thing goes for all other "human" characteristics.
>
>But maybe I'm wrong and you're all just a bunch of computer generated
>"human simulations". If that's the case, please let me know and I'll start
>posting in binary to save you processing time.
>

Good point. But in real life, do you just ignore those you prefer not
to interact with, or do you go around soliciting others to join you in
ignoring your "target"?
--
Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently.

[Kingfish]

Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> I also tend to think that if you're an idiot on usenet, you're probably
> an idiot in (so called) "real life". Maybe a more subdued idiot, but still
> an idiot. The same thing goes for all other "human" characteristics.

Blame it on the anonymity of the Internet. Without face 2 face
interaction there's a kind of disconnect at work here which creates a
whole different conversational dynamic. Sometimes with incendiary
results.


> But maybe I'm wrong and you're all just a bunch of computer generated
> "human simulations". If that's the case, please let me know and I'll start
> posting in binary to save you processing time.

110010010010111000100101101100100110 <--- I don't care who you are,
that was funny...

[Kev]

Nomen Nescio wrote:
> From: "Kev" >
> >This is Usenet. It's not real life.
>
> Ah yes. The ultimate justification for assholes to act like assholes.
> "I'm not an asshole in REAL LIFE, I just play one on USENET".

That's one way of looking at things. But I simply meant that it's not
worth it for people to obsess over what's said here... to the point of
announcing blacklists, throwing initial insults, etc. Heck, you could
spend years going crazy over what is said here about Iraq, Mxsmanic,
and high-wing vs. low-wing.

When someone cries "Boo-hoo he didn't listen to me so I don't want
anyone else to talk to him", who looks less mature? Come on people,
you're supposed to be captains of the sky. Have a little class.

Regards, Kev

[fromTheShadows[_3_]]

Kingfish wrote:
>
> 110010010010111000100101101100100110 <--- I don't care who you are,
> that was funny...
>

There are 10 kinds of people in this world - those who understand
binary, and those who don't.

[Jay Honeck]

> I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to see
> that on the net.

Well put, Kev.

I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
airmen that I didn't think existed.

Sure, he can be obnoxious, and he's got some goofy attitudes toward
flying (and life in general, if you ask me) -- but so what? If you
don't like what he's saying, don't read it. If you think his threads
are stupid, start one of your own.

I, for one, find MX to be occasionally enlightening, intensely curious
(in some ways), dunderheaded (in others), and I must admit that it's
kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.


And to those who pronounce that they regret MX's presence here because
his topics detract from the true purpose of this group, I challenge you
to bring up some good, useful piloting subjects of your own. Too many
of you guys are hunkered down behind your monitors, rolling
hand-grenades down the aisle instead of trying to positively impact
this group with new topics.

To which I say: Stand up and START A NEW THREAD. Move on from this
guy, gentlemen!

I'll tell you this much -- I admire his persistence. Thin-skinned he
isn't.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Neil Gould]

Recently, Jay Honeck > posted:

>> I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to
>> see that on the net.
>
> Well put, Kev.
>
> I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> airmen that I didn't think existed.
>
You're kidding, right? I could give you names of airmen that act every bit
the same as those who have blasted Mxsmanic in this newsgroup. It would
seem that your list of names would be longer than mine, as I don't have a
hotel to draw them in.

> I, for one, find MX to be occasionally enlightening, intensely curious
> (in some ways), dunderheaded (in others), and I must admit that it's
> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the
> group.
>
If nothing else, his posts have greatly increased the number of
aviation-related threads and discussions in this group. I see that as a
positive outcome, given the prior state of largely OT threads.

> And to those who pronounce that they regret MX's presence here because
> his topics detract from the true purpose of this group, I challenge
> you to bring up some good, useful piloting subjects of your own. Too
> many of you guys are hunkered down behind your monitors, rolling
> hand-grenades down the aisle instead of trying to positively impact
> this group with new topics.
>
But, that's where the *fun* is, Jay; I'm glad that he's volunteered to
play the fool. That way, we all can learn from those who provide detailed
responses to his misconceptions.

Neil

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article om>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to see
> > that on the net.
>
> Well put, Kev.
>
> I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> airmen that I didn't think existed.
>
> Sure, he can be obnoxious, and he's got some goofy attitudes toward
> flying (and life in general, if you ask me) -- but so what? If you
> don't like what he's saying, don't read it. If you think his threads
> are stupid, start one of your own.
>
> I, for one, find MX to be occasionally enlightening, intensely curious
> (in some ways), dunderheaded (in others), and I must admit that it's
> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.
>
>
> And to those who pronounce that they regret MX's presence here because
> his topics detract from the true purpose of this group, I challenge you
> to bring up some good, useful piloting subjects of your own. Too many
> of you guys are hunkered down behind your monitors, rolling
> hand-grenades down the aisle instead of trying to positively impact
> this group with new topics.
>
> To which I say: Stand up and START A NEW THREAD. Move on from this
> guy, gentlemen!
>
> I'll tell you this much -- I admire his persistence. Thin-skinned he
> isn't.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

I, also, second "Kev's" motion! I get a chuckle out of "MX's" naivite,
but find that there some far more toxic posters out there, such as
"Skyloon," MulCahy, etc.

I have found that "MX" has been polite, although I think that his world
is Fantasyland.

[Ross Richardson[_2_]]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to see
>>that on the net.
>
>
> Well put, Kev.
>
> I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> airmen that I didn't think existed.
>
> Sure, he can be obnoxious, and he's got some goofy attitudes toward
> flying (and life in general, if you ask me) -- but so what? If you
> don't like what he's saying, don't read it. If you think his threads
> are stupid, start one of your own.
>
> I, for one, find MX to be occasionally enlightening, intensely curious
> (in some ways), dunderheaded (in others), and I must admit that it's
> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.
>
>
> And to those who pronounce that they regret MX's presence here because
> his topics detract from the true purpose of this group, I challenge you
> to bring up some good, useful piloting subjects of your own. Too many
> of you guys are hunkered down behind your monitors, rolling
> hand-grenades down the aisle instead of trying to positively impact
> this group with new topics.
>
> To which I say: Stand up and START A NEW THREAD. Move on from this
> guy, gentlemen!
>
> I'll tell you this much -- I admire his persistence. Thin-skinned he
> isn't.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Very good point, Jay. I have found the group much less educational and
informational than in the past.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:00:06 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio
> wrote in
>:

>Are the rest of you just some computer generated AI simulation?

Some are: http://www.jabberwacky.com/j2instructions

[Jon Kraus]

wouldn't that be 16 kinds of people?

Jon

fromTheShadows wrote:
> Kingfish wrote:
>
>>
>> 110010010010111000100101101100100110 <--- I don't care who you are,
>> that was funny...
>>
>
> There are 10 kinds of people in this world - those who understand
> binary, and those who don't.

[fromTheShadows[_3_]]

Jon Kraus wrote:
> wouldn't that be 16 kinds of people?
>

I said binary, not hex.

[Andrew Sarangan]

I agree. It is just another example of the superiority complex some
pilots seem to have. Since mx has only flown in simulators, they are
compelled to make his questions appear stupid. Although most of his
questions have been fairly basic, there were some that many were unable
to answer or gave wong answers to.




Jay Honeck wrote:
> > I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to see
> > that on the net.
>
> Well put, Kev.
>
> I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> airmen that I didn't think existed.
>
> Sure, he can be obnoxious, and he's got some goofy attitudes toward
> flying (and life in general, if you ask me) -- but so what? If you
> don't like what he's saying, don't read it. If you think his threads
> are stupid, start one of your own.
>
> I, for one, find MX to be occasionally enlightening, intensely curious
> (in some ways), dunderheaded (in others), and I must admit that it's
> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.
>
>
> And to those who pronounce that they regret MX's presence here because
> his topics detract from the true purpose of this group, I challenge you
> to bring up some good, useful piloting subjects of your own. Too many
> of you guys are hunkered down behind your monitors, rolling
> hand-grenades down the aisle instead of trying to positively impact
> this group with new topics.
>
> To which I say: Stand up and START A NEW THREAD. Move on from this
> guy, gentlemen!
>
> I'll tell you this much -- I admire his persistence. Thin-skinned he
> isn't.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[Neil Gould]

Hmm, no. Now we know which group *you're* in! ;-)


Recently, Jon Kraus > posted:

> wouldn't that be 16 kinds of people?
>
> Jon
>
> fromTheShadows wrote:
>> Kingfish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 110010010010111000100101101100100110 <--- I don't care who you
>>> are, that was funny...
>>>
>>
>> There are 10 kinds of people in this world - those who understand
>> binary, and those who don't.

[Grumman-581[_1_]]

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 06:13:23 -0800, in
. com>, Kingfish wrote:
>
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>
>> I also tend to think that if you're an idiot on usenet, you're probably
>> an idiot in (so called) "real life". Maybe a more subdued idiot, but still
>> an idiot. The same thing goes for all other "human" characteristics.
>
> Blame it on the anonymity of the Internet. Without face 2 face
> interaction there's a kind of disconnect at work here which creates a
> whole different conversational dynamic. Sometimes with incendiary
> results.

Of course, you're telling that to someone who uses an anonymous remailer...

[Bucky]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> If you don't like what he's saying, don't read it.

Exactly. Some accuse him of being a troll, but he's really not--he's
not posting inflammatory, off-topic, or insulting statements.
Ironically, it's his detractors who are posting that type of content.
He's just posting basic and naive questions, which annoys the heck out
of pilots who feel superior. If you don't want to read basic/naive
threads, then just ignore/killfile him and his threads.

> I must admit that it's
> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.

Yeah, like that has ever worked. I've seen some posters in other groups
drive themselves crazy trying to ostracize someone into leaving the
group. They just ended up quitting the group themselves out of
frustration.

[Aluckyguess]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> I'm sure you're a nice reasonable guy in person. It's just hard to see
>> that on the net.
>
> Well put, Kev.
>
> I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> airmen that I didn't think existed.
>
> Sure, he can be obnoxious, and he's got some goofy attitudes toward
> flying (and life in general, if you ask me) -- but so what? If you
> don't like what he's saying, don't read it. If you think his threads
> are stupid, start one of your own.
>
> I, for one, find MX to be occasionally enlightening, intensely curious
> (in some ways), dunderheaded (in others), and I must admit that it's
> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.
>
>
> And to those who pronounce that they regret MX's presence here because
> his topics detract from the true purpose of this group, I challenge you
> to bring up some good, useful piloting subjects of your own. Too many
> of you guys are hunkered down behind your monitors, rolling
> hand-grenades down the aisle instead of trying to positively impact
> this group with new topics.
>
> To which I say: Stand up and START A NEW THREAD. Move on from this
> guy, gentlemen!
>

Ditto

> I'll tell you this much -- I admire his persistence. Thin-skinned he
> isn't.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe]

"Bucky" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>> If you don't like what he's saying, don't read it.
>
> Exactly. Some accuse him of being a troll, but he's really not--he's
> not posting inflammatory, off-topic, or insulting statements.
> Ironically, it's his detractors who are posting that type of content.
> He's just posting basic and naive questions, which annoys the heck out
> of pilots who feel superior. If you don't want to read basic/naive
> threads, then just ignore/killfile him and his threads.
>
>> I must admit that it's
>> kind of entertaining to watch as some of the regulars here do
>> switchblade backflips as they try to insult him into leaving the group.
>
> Yeah, like that has ever worked. I've seen some posters in other groups
> drive themselves crazy trying to ostracize someone into leaving the
> group. They just ended up quitting the group themselves out of
> frustration.
>

Stick your nose into rec.ponds if you want to see what can happen if a few
people get serious about trying to rid a newsgroup of a few others by the
constant posting of rebuttals and insults. There's nothing left there.

--
Geoff
The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com
remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail
When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate.

[Kev]

Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
>
> Stick your nose into rec.ponds if you want to see what can happen if a few
> people get serious about trying to rid a newsgroup of a few others by the
> constant posting of rebuttals and insults. There's nothing left there.

A lot of usenet has become that way. I don't know if it's fallout from
the Endless September ** or what. Some of my techie groups have been
overtaken by "experts" who put down any newcomer who dares ask a
question. Very sad. Seems like a lot of people are stressed and want
someone easy to beat up on. That's why I don't want that to happen
here.

Kev

** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

[gatt]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...

> I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> airmen that I didn't think existed.

Yeah. Sad, that. It happens in a great deal of internet forums, I guess.

-c

[gatt]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...


> I have found that "MX" has been polite, although I think that his world
> is Fantasyland.

It's Simulatorland. Maybe for some reason he really wants to fly, but
can't. Medical, developmental, psychological, financial...

If he posts something, PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND. On the other hand, if
people want to respond THEY'RE ALLOWED TO. And if others don't like wading
through the subsequent threads NOBODY IS FORCED TO READ THEM.

After awhile the circle of more-aviator-than-thou types standing around
kicking him about it gets to be more annoying and embarrassing than the
stuff he's posting. Ignorance is one thing. Meanness is another.

-c

[Jay Honeck]

> > I don't understand the venom MX has inspired here, but I *do* regret
> > it. And, to a certain degree, I fear it, because it shows a side of
> > airmen that I didn't think existed.
> >
> You're kidding, right? I could give you names of airmen that act every bit
> the same as those who have blasted Mxsmanic in this newsgroup. It would
> seem that your list of names would be longer than mine, as I don't have a
> hotel to draw them in.

Nope, I'm not kidding. In my 4+ years of experience dealing with
guests, airmen (pilots) are invariably a cut above the regular folk who
visit our establishment. In fact, I cannot name a single private
pilot who has not been honest, friendly, generous, positive, upbeat,
and pleasant to be with -- and there have been a LOT of them through
our doors.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jose[_1_]]

> In fact, I cannot name a single private
> pilot who has not been honest, friendly, generous, positive, upbeat,
> and pleasant to be with

I suspect they know they're on stage.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[gatt]

"gatt" > wrote in message
...

> After awhile the circle of more-aviator-than-thou types standing around
> kicking him about it gets to be more annoying and embarrassing than the
> stuff he's posting. Ignorance is one thing. Meanness is another.

Disregard previous. I just killfiled him.

Have a safe weekend.

-c