Best Aviation Magazines?

[Jay Honeck]

I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
curious what the group-think is on this question:

What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Whiting]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

Private Pilot
AOPA Pilot
Kitplanes

I only subscribe to these three currently.

I just resubscribed to Flying as I bought a copy in the airport
bookstore and couldn't resist the card offer of 3 years for $18! If
they want to give it away, I'll take it! Flying was my favorite for
many years, but I thought it went downhill in the mid-90s and I dropped
my subscription then.

I also get this freebie magazine whose exact name I can't remember
(something with Aviator in the name, I believe) that is mostly about
travel destinations. It is an OK magazine, but mostly highlights placed
I can't afford to visit (resorts, etc.). I got a "sample" copy a couple
of three years ago with a subscription offer. I never subscribed, but
it keeps on coming.


Matt

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

Light Plane Maintenance.

Note that I don't list AOPA's mag even though I'm a member.
I don't have much interest in high-end GA or $30,000 panels.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Peter R.]

Jay Honeck > wrote:

> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

1. IFR
2. IFR Refresher
3. Aviation Safety
4. Aviation Consumer
5. NTSB Reporter

--
Peter

[Andrew Sarangan]

I only regularly read the IFR magazine. I subscribe to the AOPA and EAA
magazines, but I don't always get around to reading them.


Jay Honeck wrote:
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[Jose[_1_]]

> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

Five?? I barely read the daily paper. Who has time to read magazines
when there are real airplanes to fly, and USENET to post to?

I get AOPA pilot, since I'm an AOPA member. Sometimes I read a few
articles (mostly they pile up so I can read them "later"). I also visit
avweb.com when I remember.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jim Macklin]

The pocket sized AIR FACTS
EAA SPORT AVIATION
AOPA PILOT
B&CA
Air Facts is no longer available.



"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
s.com...
| I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of
them) -- but I'm
| curious what the group-think is on this question:
|
| What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

[karl gruber[_1_]]

Trade-A- Plane
"GA" News (but the trainer at my club accused me of being gay)
Professional Pilot

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
s.com...
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Blanche]

Smithsonian Air & Space
Forbes - necessary to understand what's going on in the economy and
what Boeing, LockMart, Airbus, etc. are doing.
NTSB website
Punch

[AJ]

Jay --

Are these choices going to be available at the Inn? (An excellent
idea, actually -- stocking the library with material you know will be
read!)

AJ Harris

[Kyle Boatright]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
s.com...
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

I subscribe to these 3:

Sport Aviation
Aviation Consumer
Air & Space

I read these occasionally, but don't subscribe:

Fly-past
Flying

KB

[Ron Wanttaja]

>> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
>> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>>
>> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

My favorites are the ones I *don't* subscribe to. I have a couple of Fly Baby
items that I make available to folks on my web page...patches, reprints of
1960s-era Fly Baby newsletters, etc. Because of the international interest in
the airplane, I occasionally get requests for these items from folks outside of
North America.

When that happens, I offer them a deal: Instead sending me money, I tell them
to package up a batch of their own country's aviation magazines and mail them to
me. I tell them specifically NOT to buy new magazines for me...just send me the
ones they've got sitting around and would be throwing out, anyway. To put
together a bundle where the postage is approximately equal to the cost of the
items I send them.

I've received magazines from Great Britain, Norway, France, South Africa,
Australia, and New Zealand. I get a special kick out of the Norwegian and
French ones. It's fun to pick through the technical articles and try to figure
out the point's they're making (e,g, even if you don't know what "La Vitesse Est
Aussi Important Que La Masse" means, you can recognize photos and drawings of a
pitot tube!). Even the advertisements are fresh....

Ron Wanttaja

[Kev]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

IFR
AOPA
Private Pilot
Plane & Pilot
Trade-a-Plane

I get Flying, but it has too much biz jet stuff for me.

Kev

[Jay B]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

AOPA Flight Training
Aviation Safety
AOPA Pilot
Flying
Plane & Pilot

Jay B

[Doug[_1_]]

I like the mags with destinations. Southwest Aviation etc. That and
Trade-a-Plane (pilots are always thinking about buying an airplane).

[Blueskies]

"B A R R Y" > wrote in message ...
: On 09 Dec 2006 17:18:13 GMT, Blanche > wrote:
:
: >Smithsonian Air & Space
:
: Sorry, I forgot that I get this. Make it #5!
:
: It _IS_ a very nice magazine, but I didn't think of it for some
: reason.
:
: I really enjoyed the recent B58 article.

It is amazing how poor the editing in Air & Space is, though. Seems like their is at least half a dozen obvious errors
in every issue ( I know, there...)

[Blueskies]

So Jay, what are your top 5?


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message s.com...
: I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
: curious what the group-think is on this question:
:
: What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
: --
: Jay Honeck
: Iowa City, IA
: Pathfinder N56993
: www.AlexisParkInn.com
: "Your Aviation Destination"
:

[Jay Honeck]

> Are these choices going to be available at the Inn? (An excellent
> idea, actually -- stocking the library with material you know will be
> read!)

Actually, most already are -- and then some.

We currently receive:

- Flying
- GA News
- Aviation Consumer
- Plane & Pilot
- EAA Sport Aviation
- AOPA Pilot
- Aviation History
- Flight Journal
- Pipers
- Cherokee PIlots Association Mag
- America's Flyways
- Pilot Getaways
- Midwest Flyer
- Smithsonian Air & Space
- Antique Airfield Runway

And probably some I'm forgetting....

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Walt]

I still subscribe to Flying Magazine, but it usually takes me about
five minutes to wander through the magazine and filter out stuff. Every
cover is a picture of a bizjet, and I get the feeling they're catering
toward uppercrust FBO's (like the Yellowstone Jet Center here).

That being said, I like Lane Wallace's articles. But, being a computer
geek, I'm not sure I would like to be a passenger in an airplane flown
by a Captain named "Abend". :>)

I get AOPA mag and the two EAA mags. Like'em both. Also get Air & Space
and Flight Journal. Like them too.

--Walt
Bozeman, Montana


Jay Honeck wrote:
> > Are these choices going to be available at the Inn? (An excellent
> > idea, actually -- stocking the library with material you know will be
> > read!)
>
> Actually, most already are -- and then some.
>
> We currently receive:
>
> - Flying
> - GA News
> - Aviation Consumer
> - Plane & Pilot
> - EAA Sport Aviation
> - AOPA Pilot
> - Aviation History
> - Flight Journal
> - Pipers
> - Cherokee PIlots Association Mag
> - America's Flyways
> - Pilot Getaways
> - Midwest Flyer
> - Smithsonian Air & Space
> - Antique Airfield Runway
>
> And probably some I'm forgetting....
>
> :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[John[_9_]]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

My top 5 favorites I currently subscribe to are

Flight Journal Simply the best all around enthusiast mag out there.
Air and Space Sometimes I read it cover to cover sometimes not.
Warbird Digest New but pretty good for Warbird coverage
Air Enthusiast Not as British as it used to be and the lesser for it
but still good.
Classic Wings Australian version of Warbird Digest but does delve
into civilian aircraft.

I get some professional mags at work but it isn't really fun reading
anymore.

My favorite aviation magazine of all time was Air Progress from the
1970s and '80s. What a blast that magazine was. I actually wrote to
Budd Davisson years later to tell him how much that magazine meant to
me and he called me at home to thank me! The writers for Air Progress
were having fun. In contrast the writers for Flying seemed to always
have a stick up thier butts from trying to be so cool and efficient. I
remember AP did a series on spoof homebuilts like a 3/4 scale B-17 and
then a 5/3 Piper Cub. Think a Piper Cub the size of an Antonov Colt!

John Dupre'

[Walt]

B A R R Y wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2006 15:15:44 -0800, "Walt" > wrote:
>
> > Bozeman, Montana
>
>
> Which we all know from the FAA written exams... <G>

You snipped too much, at least for me. Which one are you referring to?
Just curious.

--Walt

[Pixel Dent]

In article >,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

IFR

Aviation Consumer

AOPA Magazine (although I doubt I would pay for it if it didn't come
with the membership)

and, uh, um. 5 huh?

rereading IFR

The American Star (Grumman owners group magazine)

[FLAV8R]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message ...
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
>

I don't have 5 that I can think of but I do read or at least flip thru
and check out the pictures on the following:

AOPA - Flight Training magazine
Sporty's Pilot Shop - good for dreaming on rainy days.
Controller - also good for dreaming about that big lottery win.
IFR - great for keeping up with IFR.
Pilot Getaways - Great destination information.
Flying - only because of the great price offer $10 per year.

I guess that does make 6 but I don't really read Flying that much, it
is basically there for my guests to flip through.

David

[Matt Barrow]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
s.com...
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of
> them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?

Professional Pilot (Freebie)
AOPA Pilot
Business & Commercial Aviation (Freebie)
IFR

Flying...only for MacClellan (sp?); I don't subscribe, but I get a lot of
Complementary copies.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"John" > wrote

> then a 5/3 Piper Cub. Think a Piper Cub the size of an Antonov Colt!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oooh! Can you say useful load?

That is actually a neat idea!
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> So Jay, what are your top 5?

1. AOPA Pilot -- For information, it's hard to beat
2. Flying - Say what you will, but they're the grand masters of
aviation. I hate the jet stuff, too, but...
3. Aviation Consumer - This quirky little mag has more useful info per
page than any other
4. Aviation History - If you're into history, it's the best around.
5. Smithsonian Air & Space - Hit and miss, but mostly hit

Runners up:

1. Plane & Pilot - Put this one on the "most improved/back from the
dead" list.
2. GA News - Not really a magazine, but a free tabloid. Great writers,
occasionally great stuff -- and FREE.
3. Flight Journal - A glossier version of Aviation History, but with
Grumman test pilot Corky Meyer doing some great writing.

I'm surprised no one mentioned "Fly Past". An older gentleman just
gave me several dozen issues from the 1980s, and I'm having a great
time reading them. Very odd style, but (back then) mostly written by
real WWII vets. This gives/gave it a patina of authenticity that is
sorely lacking in many magazines today.

Of course, for all I know it's out of print now?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Kyle Boatright]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> So Jay, what are your top 5?
>
> 1. AOPA Pilot -- For information, it's hard to beat
> 2. Flying - Say what you will, but they're the grand masters of
> aviation. I hate the jet stuff, too, but...
> 3. Aviation Consumer - This quirky little mag has more useful info per
> page than any other
> 4. Aviation History - If you're into history, it's the best around.
> 5. Smithsonian Air & Space - Hit and miss, but mostly hit
>
> Runners up:
>
> 1. Plane & Pilot - Put this one on the "most improved/back from the
> dead" list.
> 2. GA News - Not really a magazine, but a free tabloid. Great writers,
> occasionally great stuff -- and FREE.
> 3. Flight Journal - A glossier version of Aviation History, but with
> Grumman test pilot Corky Meyer doing some great writing.
>
> I'm surprised no one mentioned "Fly Past". An older gentleman just
> gave me several dozen issues from the 1980s, and I'm having a great
> time reading them. Very odd style, but (back then) mostly written by
> real WWII vets. This gives/gave it a patina of authenticity that is
> sorely lacking in many magazines today.
>
> Of course, for all I know it's out of print now?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

Someone did mention Fly-Past. ;-)

[Blueskies]

"FLAV8R" > wrote in message ...
: "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message ...
: > I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
: > curious what the group-think is on this question:
: >
: > What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
: >
:
: I don't have 5 that I can think of but I do read or at least flip thru
: and check out the pictures on the following:
:
: AOPA - Flight Training magazine
: Sporty's Pilot Shop - good for dreaming on rainy days.
: Controller - also good for dreaming about that big lottery win.
: IFR - great for keeping up with IFR.
: Pilot Getaways - Great destination information.
: Flying - only because of the great price offer $10 per year.
:
: I guess that does make 6 but I don't really read Flying that much, it
: is basically there for my guests to flip through.
:
: David



AW&ST
Air & Space

AOPA Pilot
Sport Aviation
Aviation Safety

[Newps]

Morgans wrote:

>
> "John" > wrote
>
>> then a 5/3 Piper Cub. Think a Piper Cub the size of an Antonov Colt!
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Oooh! Can you say useful load?
>
> That is actually a neat idea!

Google Sherpa.

[Bill Watson]

Flying (I feel very alone here but it's all about the writing)
Kitplanes (I'm building but it's just OK)
IFR (but I don't subscribe now)
I get AOPA but for whatever reasons, it doesn't cut it for me. Too
sanitized, not enough opinion.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> curious what the group-think is on this question:
>
> What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Newps" > wrote

>>
>> That is actually a neat idea!
>
> Google Sherpa.

Perty close imitation, isn't it? <g>

That looks as close to a cartoon plane as I have seen. Is that the one at Osh I
remember with a 8 cylinder opposed engine, or am I thinking of something else?
--
Jim in NC

[Newps]

Morgans wrote:

>
> That looks as close to a cartoon plane as I have seen. Is that the one
> at Osh I remember with a 8 cylinder opposed engine, or am I thinking of
> something else?

That's the one. It's on the Long Props Big Rocks video also, where they
touch down in the water and end up on land.

[John[_9_]]

Morgans wrote:
> "John" > wrote
>
> > then a 5/3 Piper Cub. Think a Piper Cub the size of an Antonov Colt!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Oooh! Can you say useful load?
>
> That is actually a neat idea!
> --
> Jim in NC

It was a fun article. Completely toungue in cheek. Maybe it was
bigger than 5/3. It was supposed to have an R-1340 completely hidden
under a fiberglass replica A-65. One fake cylinder held a 55 gallon
drum of oil and the other three held gas. The interior would have two
levels with a spiral staircase, (just like a 747!) Perhaps best of all
the pilot would wear a gorilla suit! I haven't seen that issue in 30
years but I still remember that story.

John Dupre'

[TThierry]

In my opinion : AOPA pilot, Pilot (UK), Private pilot, Todays pilot
(UK) and Flyer(UK)
Unfortunately, AOPA Pilot is not on sale in France if you're not an
AOPA member. I wish it was.

Thierry, PPL

[Walt]

B A R R Y wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2006 15:58:23 -0800, "Walt" > wrote:
>
> >
> >B A R R Y wrote:
> >> On 9 Dec 2006 15:15:44 -0800, "Walt" > wrote:
> >>
> >> > Bozeman, Montana
> >>
> >>
> >> Which we all know from the FAA written exams... <G>
> >
> >You snipped too much, at least for me. Which one are you referring to?
>
> Bozeman, MT! <G>

Still clueless. Please fill me in. Is there something in the FAA
written exam that references Bozeman? It's been quite a while since I
took it.

--Walt

[FLAV8R]

"TThierry" > wrote in message ...
> Unfortunately, AOPA Pilot is not on sale in France if you're not an
> AOPA member. I wish it was.
>
> Thierry, PPL
>
I don't believe you can buy it as a stand alone magazine in the States
either.
You must be a member of AOPA to receive this magazine.
I could be wrong, as I have been told by my ex-wife a million times.

David
Greer, South Carolina USA

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Walt wrote:
>
> Still clueless. Please fill me in. Is there something in the FAA
> written exam that references Bozeman?

Sorry.

There are several current questions that use Bozeman.

[vincent p. norris]

> I barely read the daily paper.

In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.

vince norris

[Matt Barrow]

"vincent p. norris" > wrote in message
...
>> I barely read the daily paper.
>
> In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.

Wouldn't it be better to have facts before voting?

[Marco Leon]

My favorite 5:

1) Flying - I guess that make three of us (with Jay) but I really like
it. They may be disagreeable at times but they're not afraid to take a
position and tell you when they don't like something. Hard to do in an
advertising-based revenue model.

2) AOPA Pilot - kind of plays it safe but they just have a lot of
articles so I'm bound to find some interesting. I like the
pilot-centric (of course) and owner angle.

3) IFR/IFR Refresher - yeah they're technically two but I still haven't
figured out how their angles are different. Good stuff regardless.

4) Aviation Safety - Got some good articles more often than not. I
think our fellow newsgrouper Paul Sanchez writes for them too. I like
the down in the weeds detail he and others provide.

5) Aviation Consumer - Like Jay stated, lots of data points in a
condensed format. However, I've read in this NG at some point that a
lot gets edited-out and it sometimes changes the overall color of the
article and I can sense that from time to time.

Plane and Pilot is getting better and better since the absorption of
Private Pilot.

Unlike most here, I read about 10 magazines front-to-back every month
thanks to my 1 hour + communte on a train. Heck, I even "read"
Trade-a-Plane and Controller when I'm hungry for more. My wife thinks
I'm hopeless.

Marco



Bill Watson wrote:
> Flying (I feel very alone here but it's all about the writing)
> Kitplanes (I'm building but it's just OK)
> IFR (but I don't subscribe now)
> I get AOPA but for whatever reasons, it doesn't cut it for me. Too
> sanitized, not enough opinion.
>
> Jay Honeck wrote:
> > I've got my opinions (and we subscribe to a bunch of them) -- but I'm
> > curious what the group-think is on this question:
> >
> > What's your top 5 favorite aviation mags?
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
> >

[Jay Honeck]

> > I barely read the daily paper.
>
> In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.

Fat chance.

We *give* the local newspaper away to every guest at our hotel. In
fact, we deliver it to their suite, along with breakfast each morning.
All they have to do is check the little box labeled "Yes" on their
breakfast order form.

While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Someone did mention Fly-Past. ;-)

Whoops. Right.

How much is that magazine today? I was amazed to see a price of over
$3.00, in the mid-1980s. I think most magazines were around $1.00 back
then...

Is it still quirky and good, or have they gotten all polished and
slick?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> Unlike most here, I read about 10 magazines front-to-back every month
> thanks to my 1 hour + communte on a train. Heck, I even "read"
> Trade-a-Plane and Controller when I'm hungry for more. My wife thinks
> I'm hopeless.

Hee hee! Well, Marco, you're not alone.

You see how many magazines we get at the hotel. I read them ALL, and
usually end up wanting more.

My wife KNOWS I'm hopeless...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ron Wanttaja]

On 13 Dec 2006 04:32:31 -0800, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:

>> > I barely read the daily paper.
>>
>> In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.
>
>Fat chance.
>
>We *give* the local newspaper away to every guest at our hotel. In
>fact, we deliver it to their suite, along with breakfast each morning.
>All they have to do is check the little box labeled "Yes" on their
>breakfast order form.
>
>While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
>disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
>that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.

Then again, they may be people on vacation who want to get away from politics
and other woes of the world. Just because I'm not interested in the actions of
Congress one week out of the year doesn't make me a bad citizen. I'm not
required to keep my TV on CNN or Fox News 24 hours a day, am I?

Also, I've usually got little interest in the local newspapers when I'm
traveling. Why should I be interested in scandals involving a city council
2,000 miles from home? Why should the scores of the local high school
basketball teams interest me? I've rarely stayed in hotels that offer free
local newspapers; most give out either McPaper (USA Today) or the Wall Street
Journal.

Ron Wanttaja

[John Theune]

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
> On 13 Dec 2006 04:32:31 -0800, "Jay Honeck" > wrote:
>
>>>> I barely read the daily paper.
>>> In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.
>> Fat chance.
>>
>> We *give* the local newspaper away to every guest at our hotel. In
>> fact, we deliver it to their suite, along with breakfast each morning.
>> All they have to do is check the little box labeled "Yes" on their
>> breakfast order form.
>>
>> While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
>> disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
>> that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.
>
> Then again, they may be people on vacation who want to get away from politics
> and other woes of the world. Just because I'm not interested in the actions of
> Congress one week out of the year doesn't make me a bad citizen. I'm not
> required to keep my TV on CNN or Fox News 24 hours a day, am I?
>
> Also, I've usually got little interest in the local newspapers when I'm
> traveling. Why should I be interested in scandals involving a city council
> 2,000 miles from home? Why should the scores of the local high school
> basketball teams interest me? I've rarely stayed in hotels that offer free
> local newspapers; most give out either McPaper (USA Today) or the Wall Street
> Journal.
>
> Ron Wanttaja
I will usually read USA Today ( all the news that's fit to color )
because I've read it enough to have a idea of it's slant. I generally
don't read national news in a local paper because I don't have enough
data to know what's BS and what's not. I also get the majority on my
news online. The paper is good for the intellectual section ( comics )
John

[Matt Barrow]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> > I barely read the daily paper.
>>
>> In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.
>
> Fat chance.
>
> We *give* the local newspaper away to every guest at our hotel. In
> fact, we deliver it to their suite, along with breakfast each morning.
> All they have to do is check the little box labeled "Yes" on their
> breakfast order form.
>
> While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
> disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
> that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.

Make it to the polls with all that propaganda under their belts?

[Matt Barrow]

"John Theune" > wrote in message
news:UUTfh.4481$_55.174@trndny09...
> Ron Wanttaja wrote:
> I will usually read USA Today ( all the news that's fit to color ) because
> I've read it enough to have a idea of it's slant. I generally don't read
> national news in a local paper because I don't have enough data to know
> what's BS and what's not. I also get the majority on my news online. The
> paper is good for the intellectual section ( comics )


I ALWAYS look for a hotel that has high speed internet (not always available
in some of the backwater places I go to), and with my laptop and a load of
bookmarked URL's I have good data, not the MSM trash.
--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

[Jose[_1_]]

> While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
> disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
> that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.

They are on =vacation= for chrissakes!

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Bela P. Havasreti]

On 13 Dec 2006 04:32:31 -0800, "Jay Honeck" >
wrote:

>> > I barely read the daily paper.
>>
>> In that case, I hope you don't vote, either.
>
>Fat chance.
>
>We *give* the local newspaper away to every guest at our hotel. In
>fact, we deliver it to their suite, along with breakfast each morning.
>All they have to do is check the little box labeled "Yes" on their
>breakfast order form.
>
>While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
>disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
>that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.

I think it was Mark Twain who said:

If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed.
If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.

I like reading & watching news from outside the USA just to get a
perspective on what the rest of the world thinks is important, or
to see what the "top story" of the day is elsewhere. It's just my
opinion (and this is not a liberal vs conservative rant... in my
book, one is worse than the other, just pick one!), but most of the
"news" available to the average consumer in the USA doesn't
measure up to my personal beliefs about what objective and
reasoned reporting should be.

Bela P. Havasreti

[john smith]

In article >,
Bela P. Havasreti > wrote:

> I like reading & watching news from outside the USA just to get a
> perspective on what the rest of the world thinks is important, or
> to see what the "top story" of the day is elsewhere.

For something different, have you tried this website:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/55ABE840-AC30-41D2-BDC9-06BBE2A366
65.htm

:-))

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Jose > wrote:

> > While the majority of guests do still want the paper, it's truly
> > disheartening how many people check the "No" box. I'm always hopeful
> > that these are the folks who never make it to the polls.
>
> They are on =vacation= for chrissakes!

On business trips I almost never have time to read any newspapers.
Of course, going to that local pub in Iowa City didn't help create the
time, but it was a far better use of my time anyway.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Kyle Boatright]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>> Someone did mention Fly-Past. ;-)
>
> Whoops. Right.
>
> How much is that magazine today? I was amazed to see a price of over
> $3.00, in the mid-1980s. I think most magazines were around $1.00 back
> then...
>
> Is it still quirky and good, or have they gotten all polished and
> slick?

Slick these days and $8 or $9 a copy. Still, very well done...

> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Jay Honeck]

> Also, I've usually got little interest in the local newspapers when I'm
> traveling. Why should I be interested in scandals involving a city council
> 2,000 miles from home? Why should the scores of the local high school
> basketball teams interest me? I've rarely stayed in hotels that offer free
> local newspapers; most give out either McPaper (USA Today) or the Wall Street
> Journal.

Interesting. A pet peeve of mine about traveling is that every hotel
gives out the McPaper. My first act in any city is to make a bee-line
for the local newspaper rack, because I *do* care about what's going on
in the city I'm visiting. (And I DON'T care what's going on in
Wyoming, for instance...unless I'm in Cheyenne.)

The local paper is what provides one with a true measure of a city's
flavor -- which is why we are the ONLY hotel (that I know of) that
gives away the LOCAL newspaper.

In case you haven't noticed, everything in our place is in response to
pet peeves. With nothing else to go one, when we opened we simply made
a list of things we HATE in hotels, and eliminated them in ours, one by
one.

The USA Today was at the top of my list, along with flow-restrictors in
shower heads, and continental breakfasts served in the lobby.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> I ALWAYS look for a hotel that has high speed internet (not always available
> in some of the backwater places I go to), and with my laptop and a load of
> bookmarked URL's I have good data, not the MSM trash.

Yep, and thanks to this group, we were the very first hotel in Iowa
City to have free high speed wireless internet, throughout the hotel.

For the first couple of years, it was seldom used. Now, EVERYONE uses
it.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> They are on =vacation= for chrissakes!

Reading a newspaper isn't penance -- it's entertainment, for
chrissakes!

To me, "vacation" is defined by having the time to read the newspaper
over a second cup of coffee in the morning, whilst eating a toasted
bagel with cream cheese and strawberry jam smeared liberally all over
it. All done in a leisurely fashion, of course.

Which is why, BTW, we deliver precisely that to our guests each morning
-- in their suites. No eating stale bakery (with a bunch of guys who
haven't taken a shower yet) at *our* hotel!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> I think it was Mark Twain who said:
>
> If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed.
> If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed.

Mark Twain (or, rather, Samuel Clemens) worked at the local newspaper
in Muscatine, Iowa, located just 24 minutes southeast of Iowa City
(from engine start to shut-down). We flew there today, in fact, for a
late lunch...

:-)

The local paper STILL has a portion of their editorial page set aside
as "Sam's Corner", where they quote him every day.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Macklin]

What are your policies on use of the WiFi, such things as
restricted websites, or use of a software firewall or other
security measures by the user and your server? Can
transients and guests of guests log in, do you require
passwords and do you hide the SSID, etc.?





"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
ps.com...
|> I ALWAYS look for a hotel that has high speed internet
(not always available
| > in some of the backwater places I go to), and with my
laptop and a load of
| > bookmarked URL's I have good data, not the MSM trash.
|
| Yep, and thanks to this group, we were the very first
hotel in Iowa
| City to have free high speed wireless internet, throughout
the hotel.
|
| For the first couple of years, it was seldom used. Now,
EVERYONE uses
| it.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|

[Jose[_1_]]

> The local paper is what provides one with a true measure of a city's
> flavor -- which is why we are the ONLY hotel (that I know of) that
> gives away the LOCAL newspaper.

Yes, and that's a good thing. But judging guests based on their desire
for the local paper is not.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jose[_1_]]

> Reading a newspaper isn't penance -- it's entertainment, for
> chrissakes!

It's time that could be spent flying. Geez, where are your priorities?

:) Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Pixel Dent]

In article >,
"Jim Macklin" > wrote:

> What are your policies on use of the WiFi, such things as
> restricted websites, or use of a software firewall or other
> security measures by the user and your server? Can
> transients and guests of guests log in, do you require
> passwords and do you hide the SSID, etc.?
>

That reminds me of a time I was using wifi at a hotel and their porn
filter blocked DUATS. I don't know what the weather was up to that day,
but I'm sure all right thinking parents kept their kids inside.

[Bill Watson]

Reading on the train/bus/subway/tram is one of the things I miss about
commuting and NYC.

Marco Leon wrote:
>
> Unlike most here, I read about 10 magazines front-to-back every month
> thanks to my 1 hour + communte on a train. Heck, I even "read"
> Trade-a-Plane and Controller when I'm hungry for more. My wife thinks
> I'm hopeless.
>
> Marco

>

[Jay Honeck]

> What are your policies on use of the WiFi, such things as
> restricted websites, or use of a software firewall or other
> security measures by the user and your server? Can
> transients and guests of guests log in, do you require
> passwords and do you hide the SSID, etc.?

No filters, and no charge for use. Once you're on, you can do whatever
you want.

We've learned to trust our guests, and have been rewarded with
uncommonly fine behavior.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> > The local paper is what provides one with a true measure of a city's
> > flavor -- which is why we are the ONLY hotel (that I know of) that
> > gives away the LOCAL newspaper.
>
> Yes, and that's a good thing. But judging guests based on their desire
> for the local paper is not.

Oh, shucks, I forgot -- St. Jose doesn't ever make conversation about
another person's experience or choices, even when that person remains
completely anonymous. Because, by golly, that's just being
presumptious, and, dang it, it's just *wrong* to even discuss.

*barf*

Tell me, Jose, IS it *ever* okay to talk about behavioral observations
in your stultifyingly dull, egalitarian paradise of the proletariat?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[jsbougher]

That's a beauty ... stultifyingly, egalitarian and proletariat in one
sentence. A funny poet. LMAO :^)
Jay Honeck wrote:
> > > The local paper is what provides one with a true measure of a city's
> > > flavor -- which is why we are the ONLY hotel (that I know of) that
> > > gives away the LOCAL newspaper.
> >
> > Yes, and that's a good thing. But judging guests based on their desire
> > for the local paper is not.
>
> Oh, shucks, I forgot -- St. Jose doesn't ever make conversation about
> another person's experience or choices, even when that person remains
> completely anonymous. Because, by golly, that's just being
> presumptious, and, dang it, it's just *wrong* to even discuss.
>
> *barf*
>
> Tell me, Jose, IS it *ever* okay to talk about behavioral observations
> in your stultifyingly dull, egalitarian paradise of the proletariat?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"

[Jose[_1_]]

> Tell me, Jose, IS it *ever* okay to talk about behavioral observations
> in your stultifyingly dull, egalitarian paradise of the proletariat?

Sure. I talk about you all the time <g>

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote
>
> My wife KNOWS I'm hopeless...

Even better, it helps that your wife APPROVES of you being hopeless. <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> That's a beauty ... stultifyingly, egalitarian and proletariat in one
> sentence. A funny poet. LMAO :^)

Yeah, I had to work that one phrase pretty hard -- but it came together
nicely, IMHO...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> > My wife KNOWS I'm hopeless...
>
> Even better, it helps that your wife APPROVES of you being hopeless. <g>

Well, sometimes. I fear much of the time she is bravely suffering in
silence...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John Halpenny]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> > They are on =vacation= for chrissakes!
>
> Reading a newspaper isn't penance -- it's entertainment, for
> chrissakes!
>
> To me, "vacation" is defined by having the time to read the newspaper
> over a second cup of coffee in the morning, whilst eating a toasted
> bagel with cream cheese and strawberry jam smeared liberally all over
> it. All done in a leisurely fashion, of course.

If I'm going to travel, I don't want to be at home. I want the local
newspaper to get stories I'll never see anywhere else.I want a local
restaraunt instead of McFood. When I'm driving a long distance, I even
try to tune in to local talk shows and I get a different view of the
world.... sometimes hilariously different!

John Halpenny

[Bob Noel]

In article om>,
"Jay Honeck" > wrote:

> > > My wife KNOWS I'm hopeless...
> >
> > Even better, it helps that your wife APPROVES of you being hopeless. <g>
>
> Well, sometimes. I fear much of the time she is bravely suffering in
> silence...

Since Mary doesn't participate in usenet, we don't really know, do we?

heh heh heh heh

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[Jay Honeck]

> > To me, "vacation" is defined by having the time to read the newspaper
> > over a second cup of coffee in the morning, whilst eating a toasted
> > bagel with cream cheese and strawberry jam smeared liberally all over
> > it. All done in a leisurely fashion, of course.
>
> If I'm going to travel, I don't want to be at home. I want the local
> newspaper to get stories I'll never see anywhere else.I want a local
> restaraunt instead of McFood. When I'm driving a long distance, I even
> try to tune in to local talk shows and I get a different view of the
> world.... sometimes hilariously different!

Precisely, John. That's exactly what Mary and I do -- we try to sample
the local flavor wherever we go, which means getting far off the
freeway, away from big-box chain hotels and freeway-food places like
"Applebees" and "Olive Garden".

I will never, ever understand in a million years why anyone stays in a
"Holiday Inn Express" or eats at Bob Evans, when there are soooo many
outstanding, less-expensive, locally-owned choices available.

Really, if you only stay and eat in chains, why in the hell should you
ever leave home?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Steve Schneider]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>>Are these choices going to be available at the Inn? (An excellent
>>idea, actually -- stocking the library with material you know will be
>>read!)
>
>
> Actually, most already are -- and then some.
>
> We currently receive:
>
..
..
..
> - Cherokee PIlots Association Mag


The Cherokee Pilots Association magazine just became my favorite. We had
a Cherokee 180 (N7232W) for about a year which I sold to a friend when
we bought the Lance. After many discussions, my friend invested in some
speed mods and new paint. I took some photos of him in flight with the
new paint job, and one of the shots is now the December cover of the CPA
magazine! Our old plane is the December plane of the month! :-)

The combination of the story behind how he ended up with the plane and
the upgrades he made turned out to make for a nice article ( he read
bits of it to me on the phone but I haven't seen the issue yet).

Here's a link to the current magazine cover at the CPA website
http://www.piperowner.com/current.htm -- I'm not sure how long they'll
keep the December cover on display.

I put together a page that tells a little about the story on our
website, and included the weight and balance spreadsheet for this
Cherokee 180 that I'd promised a few weeks ago in r.a.owning. I'll try
to add some more photos of his plane before I leave for the holidays.

http://www.4-fs.com/new/flying/aircraft.htm


Steve

[Jay Honeck]

> The Cherokee Pilots Association magazine just became my favorite. We had
> a Cherokee 180 (N7232W) for about a year which I sold to a friend when
> we bought the Lance. After many discussions, my friend invested in some
> speed mods and new paint. I took some photos of him in flight with the
> new paint job, and one of the shots is now the December cover of the CPA
> magazine! Our old plane is the December plane of the month! :-)

Cool! Congrats on having your pic published...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"