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Kingfish
December 14th 06, 04:17 PM
It kills me to read stuff like this. To the non-flying public, it makes
all of us GA pilots look like idiots that take unnecessary chances and
completely disregard the law. This was a non A&P certified pilot doing
all acft maintenance, aircraft's last annual 22 years ago, crash caused
apparently by fuel exhaustion (trace amount of auto fuel in tank w/o
proper STC), pilot's license suspended 10 years ago, last medical dated
10 years ago... Unreal. I guess you just can't stop some people from
flying if they really want to. That guy is lucky he walked away,
considering where he landed and having hit power lines and a rooftop.
The FAA says it doesn't enforce criminal violations? This should be an
exception. I think this kind of aggregious violation should be
prosecuted - what else could this dope have done illegally? And, he did
endanger people on the ground.

<vent mode off>

Here's the link:
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=b4831587-6e57-4d08-bfd2-820d3f49baa5&#d

Bob Noel
December 15th 06, 12:07 AM
In article om>,
"Kingfish" > wrote:

> It kills me to read stuff like this. To the non-flying public, it makes
> all of us GA pilots look like idiots that take unnecessary chances and
> completely disregard the law. This was a non A&P certified pilot doing
> all acft maintenance, aircraft's last annual 22 years ago, crash caused
> apparently by fuel exhaustion (trace amount of auto fuel in tank w/o
> proper STC), pilot's license suspended 10 years ago, last medical dated
> 10 years ago... Unreal. I guess you just can't stop some people from
> flying if they really want to. That guy is lucky he walked away,
> considering where he landed and having hit power lines and a rooftop.
> The FAA says it doesn't enforce criminal violations? This should be an
> exception. I think this kind of aggregious violation should be
> prosecuted - what else could this dope have done illegally? And, he did
> endanger people on the ground.
>
> <vent mode off>

<rant>
If someone is going to paint GA pilots as idiots because of someone
who isn't even a pilot (no valid certificate), then it doesn't matter what
we do. It's like painting medical professions as idiots because
someone without a medical license is caught practicing medicine.
</rant>

--
Bob Noel
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Kingfish
December 15th 06, 01:30 AM
Bob Noel wrote:
>
> <rant>
> If someone is going to paint GA pilots as idiots because of someone
> who isn't even a pilot (no valid certificate), then it doesn't matter what
> we do. It's like painting medical professions as idiots because
> someone without a medical license is caught practicing medicine.
> </rant>
>

I get your point Bob, but it's just more negative attention that we
don't need. (like Cory Lidle's crash). This guy with the Bellanca had a
cert. at some point, but that won't mean anything to John Q Public who
will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.

Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
December 15th 06, 02:08 AM
Kingfish wrote:
>> If someone is going to paint GA pilots as idiots because of someone
>> who isn't even a pilot (no valid certificate), then it doesn't matter what
>> we do. It's like painting medical professions as idiots because
>> someone without a medical license is caught practicing medicine.
>
> I get your point Bob, but it's just more negative attention that we
> don't need. (like Cory Lidle's crash). This guy with the Bellanca had a
> cert. at some point, but that won't mean anything to John Q Public who
> will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.



You have certs?



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tom
December 15th 06, 03:40 AM
Kingfish wrote:
> will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.

Man, I've got bad breath, can I have one of your certs?

tom

December 15th 06, 03:42 AM
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:

> > I get your point Bob, but it's just more negative attention that we
> > don't need. (like Cory Lidle's crash). This guy with the Bellanca had a
> > cert. at some point, but that won't mean anything to John Q Public who
> > will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.
>
>
>
> You have certs?
>
Sounds like a breath of fresh air.

Mxsmanic
December 15th 06, 05:26 AM
Kingfish writes:

> This guy with the Bellanca had a
> cert. at some point, but that won't mean anything to John Q Public who
> will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.

Why would John Q Public do that? Do you think the public is too
stupid to understand the concept of a pilot's license?

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gpsman
December 15th 06, 06:03 AM
Mxsmanic wrote:
> Kingfish writes:
>
> > This guy with the Bellanca had a
> > cert. at some point, but that won't mean anything to John Q Public who
> > will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.
>
> Why would John Q Public do that? Do you think the public is too
> stupid to understand the concept of a pilot's license?

John Q. Mxmaniac seems oblivious to the powers of Google, so I'd opine
yes.

Many people are oblivious to the obvious... have you a mirror?
-----

- gpsman

Montblack
December 15th 06, 06:28 AM
("Kingfish" wrote)
> Here's the link:
> <http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=b4831587-6e57-4d08-bfd2-820d3f49baa5&#d>


I count one: He ran out of gas.


Montblack
What?

Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
December 15th 06, 01:09 PM
tom wrote:
> Kingfish wrote:
>> will probably lump him in with the rest of us with certs.
>
> Man, I've got bad breath, can I have one of your certs?



I know. The others were talking about it.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

Kingfish
December 15th 06, 02:04 PM
Montblack wrote:
>
> I count one: He ran out of gas.

Once again, the infallible logic of Mblack is made apparent. : ) I'm
waiting for Jay H and/or Peter D to chime in here... any... time...
now...

Kingfish
Who?

mike regish
December 15th 06, 10:06 PM
Considering all tha ttime out of official inspection, I find it interesting
that it appears to be a fuel exhaustion accident.

mike

"Kingfish" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> It kills me to read stuff like this. To the non-flying public, it makes
> all of us GA pilots look like idiots that take unnecessary chances and
> completely disregard the law. This was a non A&P certified pilot doing
> all acft maintenance, aircraft's last annual 22 years ago, crash caused
> apparently by fuel exhaustion (trace amount of auto fuel in tank w/o
> proper STC), pilot's license suspended 10 years ago, last medical dated
> 10 years ago... Unreal. I guess you just can't stop some people from
> flying if they really want to. That guy is lucky he walked away,
> considering where he landed and having hit power lines and a rooftop.
> The FAA says it doesn't enforce criminal violations? This should be an
> exception. I think this kind of aggregious violation should be
> prosecuted - what else could this dope have done illegally? And, he did
> endanger people on the ground.
>
> <vent mode off>
>
> Here's the link:
> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=b4831587-6e57-4d08-bfd2-820d3f49baa5&#d
>

Bob Noel
December 15th 06, 10:39 PM
In article >,
"mike regish" > wrote:

> Considering all tha ttime out of official inspection, I find it interesting
> that it appears to be a fuel exhaustion accident.

well, *something* has to be the first thing to break....

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