Electronic Logbooks

[daniel.bascomb]

My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
stains and tipp-ex.
I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
logbook.
Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?

Daniel

[Oz Lander[_1_]]

On 20 Dec 2006 02:13:38 -0800, daniel.bascomb wrote the following in
skywriting:

> My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
> stains and tipp-ex.
> I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
> really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
> be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
> logbook.
> Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
>
> Daniel

I made my own with Microsoft Excel. It keeps an automatic tally of my hours
and even has a column where I put in expenses and stuff so I can keep an
eye on what my flying is costing me.
--
Oz Lander
I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong.

[Jim Macklin]

You can use just about any database or spreadsheet program
and write your own program. A database program such as
Access allows the creation of a form for data entry and also
data retrieval in many ways. A spreadsheet may or may not
be as easy to setup.
You can log as many details as you wish, expanding on FAR
61.51 logbook requirements if you want to. You can include
aircraft serial numbers along with the registration number,
you can include passenger names. If you have a PDA, you can
enter data on the PDA and upload to your computer when you
get home/office.

Or you can Google for "free pilot logbook program" and get
about 1/3 of a million pages to look at, the first page has
many free program for FAA or JAR listed.



"Oz Lander" > wrote in message
...
| On 20 Dec 2006 02:13:38 -0800, daniel.bascomb wrote the
following in
| skywriting:
|
| > My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is
covered in coffee
| > stains and tipp-ex.
| > I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can
find some
| > really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would
really help me to
| > be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as
well as my regular
| > logbook.
| > Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
| >
| > Daniel
|
| I made my own with Microsoft Excel. It keeps an automatic
tally of my hours
| and even has a column where I put in expenses and stuff so
I can keep an
| eye on what my flying is costing me.
| --
| Oz Lander
| I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong.

[Andrew Sarangan]

Make your own using excel spreadsheet. That way you can customize it
for your particular needs. In addition to flight times, I keep also
keep track of financial information for each flight such as income and
expenses and dues so that tax reporting becomes easier. I have
multiple worksheets on the same file, each one customized for a
different purpose. There is a separate worksheet for each student, so I
can send them invoices or keep track of their flights separate from my
own. Lots of goodies like this, but it really is quite simple to write
this on your ow. You can start with a basic skeletal spreadsheet, and
add features incrementally over a period of time.



daniel.bascomb wrote:
> My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
> stains and tipp-ex.
> I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
> really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
> be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
> logbook.
> Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
>
> Daniel

[Walt]

Just a thought (I don't use an electronic logbook) but Google has a
web-based spreadsheet. This might come in handy as you could access it
from any computer with an internet connection (most, nowadays).

I haven't used Google's spreadsheet so I can't really make a
recommendation but it might be worth looking into. I use Google's
calendar and it's kind of handy.

--Walt

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
> Make your own using excel spreadsheet. That way you can customize it
> for your particular needs. In addition to flight times, I keep also
> keep track of financial information for each flight such as income and
> expenses and dues so that tax reporting becomes easier. I have
> multiple worksheets on the same file, each one customized for a
> different purpose. There is a separate worksheet for each student, so I
> can send them invoices or keep track of their flights separate from my
> own. Lots of goodies like this, but it really is quite simple to write
> this on your ow. You can start with a basic skeletal spreadsheet, and
> add features incrementally over a period of time.
>
>
>
> daniel.bascomb wrote:
> > My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
> > stains and tipp-ex.
> > I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
> > really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
> > be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
> > logbook.
> > Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
> >
> > Daniel

[Aluckyguess]

download the flightbook from garmin. Its is reaaly nice. If you have Garmin
296,396,496 it imputs it for you.

http://www.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=010-00425-00



"daniel.bascomb" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
> stains and tipp-ex.
> I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
> really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
> be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
> logbook.
> Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
>
> Daniel
>

[[email protected]]

You many want to check out http://www.logshare.com.

It's a free web-based logbook developed by Dan Checkoway (RV-7 builder)
that I use. The service will keep track of all the currency
requirements and send you an email reminder that your currency will
soon expire. You don't have to share your data but it's pretty cool to
see who else has flown the same tail numbers.

Since it's web-based you can enter data from any internet enabled
computer/pda and when your pc goes TU you won't loose your log data. I
personally download a backup of the data, which can easily be imported
into other programs should the service cease to exist.

--ken

daniel.bascomb wrote:
> My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
> stains and tipp-ex.
> I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
> really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
> be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
> logbook.
> Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
>
> Daniel

[daniel.bascomb]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I'll have a look at everything
you've suggested.

wrote:
> You many want to check out http://www.logshare.com.
>
> It's a free web-based logbook developed by Dan Checkoway (RV-7 builder)
> that I use. The service will keep track of all the currency
> requirements and send you an email reminder that your currency will
> soon expire. You don't have to share your data but it's pretty cool to
> see who else has flown the same tail numbers.
>
> Since it's web-based you can enter data from any internet enabled
> computer/pda and when your pc goes TU you won't loose your log data. I
> personally download a backup of the data, which can easily be imported
> into other programs should the service cease to exist.
>
> --ken
>
> daniel.bascomb wrote:
> > My pilot's logbook is in an apalling state - it is covered in coffee
> > stains and tipp-ex.
> > I heard that if you search hard enough on google you can find some
> > really good (and free) electronic logbooks. It would really help me to
> > be able to keep an electronic copy of all records as well as my regular
> > logbook.
> > Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
> >
> > Daniel

[Jose[_1_]]

Call me old fashioned, but I kind of like the feel of paper logbooks. I
scan each page and store the image on my computer (and on Xdrive.com) in
case it gets stolen.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Matt Whiting]

Jose wrote:
> Call me old fashioned, but I kind of like the feel of paper logbooks. I
> scan each page and store the image on my computer (and on Xdrive.com) in
> case it gets stolen.

I like both. I haven't scanned in my logbooks yet, but that is a good
idea and now that I own a scanner I should do it. I also like the idea
of having it online and getting the automatic reminders. I have
calendar reminders for the date based items such as BFR and medical, but
currency would be nice to have as well.

Matt

[Peter Duniho]

"Walt" > wrote in message
ps.com...
>
> Just a thought (I don't use an electronic logbook) but Google has a
> web-based spreadsheet. This might come in handy as you could access it
> from any computer with an internet connection (most, nowadays).
>
> I haven't used Google's spreadsheet so I can't really make a
> recommendation but it might be worth looking into. [...]

I haven't used it either, but have heard that, while fairly simple, what it
does do it does well.

For those simply looking for an alternative to Excel, but not in need of an
online solution, there's Open Office which includes a spreadsheet. Again, I
don't have any personal experience with it, but the people who do use it
swear it's great (not that I have any particular reason to believe them, but
I also have no particular reason to disbelieve them either).

Of course, if all you really want is an alternative to writing things down,
a simple text file edited with Notepad or similar program would be fine too.
But then you'd have to do your own math. :)

Pete

[Brock Boss]

daniel.bascomb wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?
>
> Daniel

Logshare is a good online solution. I also like
http://www.pilotpal.com/logbook

Brock Boss
SP-N3916R
KAAA

[Matt Whiting]

wrote:
> You many want to check out http://www.logshare.com.
>
> It's a free web-based logbook developed by Dan Checkoway (RV-7 builder)
> that I use. The service will keep track of all the currency
> requirements and send you an email reminder that your currency will
> soon expire. You don't have to share your data but it's pretty cool to
> see who else has flown the same tail numbers.

I started entering my old logbook data here (from 1978) and noticed that
I had not logged my solo time as also PIC time. I don't know if this is
simply due to an error on my or my instructor's part or if the regs
were different back then. Anyone know of a source for part 61 as it
existed in 1978? Does anyone know if this logging of PIC for student
pilot solo flight was authorized then?

Matt

[gpsman]

daniel.bascomb wrote:
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a good e-logbook from?

No experience with it-
http://www.e-pilotworld.com/

This guy has an excellent logbook program I used when I drove a truck.
I think it would probably be adaptable for flight. He offers a free 60
day trial - http://www.driversdailylog.com/ (go to the download page)
-----

- gpsman

[Lou]

Go to www.winsite.com
They have a ton of free software including logbooks.
Lou

[Jose[_1_]]

> I started entering my old logbook data here (from 1978) and noticed that I had not logged my solo time as also PIC time. I don't know if this is simply due to an error on my or my instructor's part or if the regs were different back then. Anyone know of a source for part 61 as it existed in 1978? Does anyone know if this logging of PIC for student pilot solo flight was authorized then?

There was a time where pre-license solo time could not be logged as PIC
time. The rule changed, retroactively. You can go back and enter your
pre-license solo time as PIC time.

I don't have a reference handy however.

Jose
--
"There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing. Unfortunately, nobody knows
what they are." - (mike).
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Jim Macklin]

Link to historical FAR on this page
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/faa_regulations/

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet


"Jose" > wrote in message
et...
|> I started entering my old logbook data here (from 1978)
and noticed that I had not logged my solo time as also PIC
time. I don't know if this is simply due to an error on my
or my instructor's part or if the regs were different back
then. Anyone know of a source for part 61 as it existed in
1978? Does anyone know if this logging of PIC for student
pilot solo flight was authorized then?
|
| There was a time where pre-license solo time could not be
logged as PIC
| time. The rule changed, retroactively. You can go back
and enter your
| pre-license solo time as PIC time.
|
| I don't have a reference handy however.
|
| Jose
| --
| "There are 3 secrets to the perfect landing.
Unfortunately, nobody knows
| what they are." - (mike).
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

[Matt Whiting]

Jim Macklin wrote:
> Link to historical FAR on this page
> http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/faa_regulations/
>
> http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet

Thanks, Jim. I think I looked at that page once and didn't see that
historical link.

Matt

[Jim Macklin]

Reading in a hurry is always difficult.



--
Merry Christmas
Have a Safe and Happy New Year
Live Long and Prosper
Jim Macklin


"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| > Link to historical FAR on this page
| > http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/faa_regulations/
| >
| >
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet
|
| Thanks, Jim. I think I looked at that page once and
didn't see that
| historical link.
|
| Matt

[Matt Whiting]

Jim Macklin wrote:

> Reading in a hurry is always difficult.

And even when not in a hurry sometimes.

The funny part is that part 61 isn't listed in the historical section as
near as I can tell. The current section lists amendment 61-110, but the
only history I find is the NPRM related to sport pilots. I do not see
any other changes relative to logging of PIC for student solo flight.


Matt