Controlled flight into glass

[John]

Great article from The Onion...Writer has to be a pilot or someone
connected with aviation....


http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901


John

[Larry Dighera]

On 11 Jan 2007 01:03:33 -0800, "John" > wrote in
. com>:

>Great article from The Onion...

What lead you to characterize this tripe as "great"?

>Writer has to be a pilot or someone connected with aviation....
>
>http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901

"Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
nature."

I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
any redeeming merit.

[Kevin Clarke]

Larry Dighera wrote:

>>
>> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
>
> "Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
> it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
> of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
> nature."
>
> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
> any redeeming merit.
>

Aww c'mon Larry. It is the Onion. This is what they do. I didn't take it
that they were denigrating airmen at all. You can't really enjoy
laughing at others if you can't laugh at yourself first.

I thought it was a nice little bit of irony and satire.

KC

[Larry Dighera]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:27:57 GMT, Kevin Clarke >
wrote in et>:

>Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>>>
>>> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
>>
>> "Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
>> it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
>> of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
>> nature."
>>
>> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
>> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
>> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
>> any redeeming merit.
>>
>
>Aww c'mon Larry. It is the Onion. This is what they do. I didn't take it
>that they were denigrating airmen at all. You can't really enjoy
>laughing at others if you can't laugh at yourself first.
>
>I thought it was a nice little bit of irony and satire.

I found the piece to be a sophomoric satirical attempt devoid of any
redeeming merit, let alone humor, regardless of it's implicit message.

[Walt]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:27:57 GMT, Kevin Clarke >
> wrote in et>:
>
> >Larry Dighera wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
> >>
> >> "Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
> >> it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
> >> of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
> >> nature."
> >>
> >> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
> >> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
> >> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
> >> any redeeming merit.
> >>
> >
> >Aww c'mon Larry. It is the Onion. This is what they do. I didn't take it
> >that they were denigrating airmen at all. You can't really enjoy
> >laughing at others if you can't laugh at yourself first.
> >
> >I thought it was a nice little bit of irony and satire.
>
> I found the piece to be a sophomoric satirical attempt devoid of any
> redeeming merit, let alone humor, regardless of it's implicit message.

As was said before, it's the Onion. I thought it was funny.

--Walt

[Bill Watson]

Well said. But it was funny.

Boink, there goes number 1 for the day. I wonder if we kill more with
our feeders than we feed.

Larry Dighera wrote:
>> Larry Dighera wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
>>> "Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
>>> it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
>>> of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
>>> nature."
>>>
>>> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
>>> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
>>> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
>>> any redeeming merit.
>>>
>> Aww c'mon Larry. It is the Onion. This is what they do. I didn't take it
>> that they were denigrating airmen at all. You can't really enjoy
>> laughing at others if you can't laugh at yourself first.
>>
>> I thought it was a nice little bit of irony and satire.
>
> I found the piece to be a sophomoric satirical attempt devoid of any
> redeeming merit, let alone humor, regardless of it's implicit message.
>

[Larry Dighera]

On 11 Jan 2007 05:01:53 -0800, "Walt" > wrote in
. com>:

>> I found the piece to be a sophomoric satirical attempt devoid of any
>> redeeming merit, let alone humor, regardless of it's implicit message.
>
>As was said before, it's the Onion. I thought it was funny.

(It's curious, that the author of the article didn't think enough of
his work to provide a byline.)

Our tastes and expectations differ.

As a child, I grew up in the company of my uncle Myron Roberts and his
cronies. Uncle Mike was a Stars And Stripes journalist during WW-II.
After the war, he started several small newspapers (The Manhattan
Beach Tide comes to mind), magazines (LA Magazine), taught English,
wrote books, became a university professor of literature (UCI), wrote
speeches for propitiations (Anderson), and knew how to write biting
satirical pieces (The Begatting of a President (q.v.) was a scathing
satire in the style of King James ridiculing Nixon). You'll find it
quoted all over the Internet:

"Now the Lord God planted a garden East of Whittier in a place
called Yorba Linda, and out of the ground he made to grow orange
trees that were good for food and the fruits thereof he labeled
SUNKIST ..."
-- "The Begatting of a President"

Orson Wells even recorded and broadcast it.

It was always entertaining when uncle Mike and Sasha and Lincoln were
present at family functions.

So I guess, as usual, I expect too much from my fellow man.

Oh well ...

[Larry Dighera]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:45:00 GMT, Larry Dighera >
wrote in >:

>propitiations = politicians

[tom]

John wrote:
> Great article from The Onion...Writer has to be a pilot or someone
> connected with aviation....
> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
> John

No wonder the poor bird crashed. He must have been grossly fatigued
from flying 60000 hours in only two years. What is that, roughly
triple time?

tom

[Larry Dighera]

On 11 Jan 2007 07:31:26 -0800, "tom" > wrote in
om>:

>
>No wonder the poor bird crashed. He must have been grossly fatigued
>from flying 60000 hours in only two years. What is that, roughly
>triple time?

3.4246575342465753424657534246575 times (depending on the effect of a
possible leap year) :-)

Perhaps the anonymous author of the article will share his
time-machine with his readership in a future article.

[Chris W]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On 11 Jan 2007 07:31:26 -0800, "tom" > wrote in
> om>:
>
>> No wonder the poor bird crashed. He must have been grossly fatigued
>>from flying 60000 hours in only two years. What is that, roughly
>> triple time?
>
> 3.4246575342465753424657534246575 times (depending on the effect of a
> possible leap year) :-)
>
> Perhaps the anonymous author of the article will share his
> time-machine with his readership in a future article.

Maybe it was people years and bird hours :)

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Give me a break...
IT'S THE ONION!!!!
(we're not talking the NYTimes, Newsweek, Fox, or whatever)

It's ok to laugh occasionally, don't take everything so damn seriously.


Ryan (in Madison, the original hometown of the "Onion")

[Larry Dighera]

On 11 Jan 2007 09:35:31 -0800, wrote in
. com>:

>It's ok to laugh occasionally,

Inane != funny.

[Jim Logajan]

"John" > wrote:
> Great article from The Onion...Writer has to be a pilot or someone
> connected with aviation....
>
> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901

What nonsense - everyone knows that Sparrows can't talk and they are
terrible typists because they hunt-and-peck.

[Mxsmanic]

Larry Dighera writes:

> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
> any redeeming merit.

Someone is being hypersensitive.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

[Jose]

> He must have been grossly fatigued
> from flying 60000 hours in only two years. What is that, roughly
> triple time?

He's using tach time, not hobbs time.

Jose

[Matt Whiting]

Kevin Clarke wrote:

> Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>>>
>>> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
>>
>>
>> "Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
>> it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
>> of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
>> nature."
>>
>> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
>> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
>> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
>> any redeeming merit.
>>
>
> Aww c'mon Larry. It is the Onion. This is what they do. I didn't take it
> that they were denigrating airmen at all. You can't really enjoy
> laughing at others if you can't laugh at yourself first.

True, anyone reading the Onion shouldn't expect much.

Matt

[Wizard of Draws]

On 1/11/07 4:03 AM, in article
. com, "John"
> wrote:
>
> Great article from The Onion...Writer has to be a pilot or someone
> connected with aviation....
>
>
> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
>
>
> John
>

Odd that there was no mention of the lack of a filed flight plan.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino

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http://www.wizardofdraws.com

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[xxx]

Larry Dighera wrote:

>
> "Now the Lord God planted a garden East of Whittier in a place
> called Yorba Linda, and out of the ground he made to grow orange
> trees that were good for food and the fruits thereof he labeled
> SUNKIST ..."
> -- "The Begatting of a President"
>

Oh, now I see.

Satire from a leftist political perspective == funny
Anything else != funny

Thanks for clearing that up.

[John]

>
> I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
> piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
> unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
> any redeeming merit.



Now that you mention it, I agree with you. There seems to be a
pattern at the Onion of making fun of different groups of society, and
they do seem to pick on people and groups who can't defend themselves.

For example, consider the following Onion articles which make fun of
Republicans, Democrats, Nancy Pelosi, John McCain, Russell Feingold and
lobsters.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31600
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nancy_pelosi_wants_congress_to
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/49841
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33174?issue=4228&special=2002


I am OK with the Onion making fun of Republicans and Democrats.
However, the last article is a thinly disguised piece aimed at
denigrating lobsters and is not funny. Rather it attempts to
unapologetically ridicule lobsters in the eyes of the lay public
without any redeeming merit.

[Montblack]

("John" wrote)
> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/33174?issue=4228&special=2002
>
> I am OK with the Onion making fun of Republicans and Democrats. However,
> the last article is a thinly disguised piece aimed at denigrating lobsters
> and is not funny. Rather it attempts to unapologetically ridicule lobsters
> in the eyes of the lay public without any redeeming merit.


Boy, that sure makes my blood boil.


Montblack
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/glassonion
Glass Onion

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Montblack" > wrote

> Boy, that sure makes my blood boil.

Get a grip! No reason to get your panties pinched in a wad! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Beckman]

"Morgans" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Montblack" > wrote
>
>> Boy, that sure makes my blood boil.
>
> Get a grip! No reason to get your panties pinched in a wad! <g>
> --
> Jim in NC

"Butter" you sure ?

Jay Beckman
(I'm getting a snack...)
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

[Montblack]

("Jay Beckman" wrote)
>>> Boy, that sure makes my blood boil.

>> Get a grip! No reason to get your panties pinched in a wad! <g>

>"Butter" you sure ?


The main(e) thing I want to say, and I know I should keep my trap shut, but
you're kind of coming in on the tail end of things.


Montblack
I'll clam up now.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Jay Beckman" > wrote

> "Butter" you sure ?

No matter what happens, this will end up with the whole conversation cracked
up, and picked to pieces. <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 02:06:09 -0500, "Morgans" > wrote:

>
>"Jay Beckman" > wrote
>
>> "Butter" you sure ?
>
>No matter what happens, this will end up with the whole conversation cracked
>up, and picked to pieces. <g>

That seems like a reasonable arseumption.

Ron Wanttaja

[Jay Beckman]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jay Beckman" wrote)
>>>> Boy, that sure makes my blood boil.
>
>>> Get a grip! No reason to get your panties pinched in a wad! <g>
>
>>"Butter" you sure ?
>
>
> The main(e) thing I want to say, and I know I should keep my trap shut,
> but you're kind of coming in on the tail end of things.
>
>
> Montblack
> I'll clam up now.

Now there's no need to be "shellfish."

In fact, the admonishments you lob-ster the pot in an uncessary way!

It's simply "claws and effect."

Jay B

[Roger[_4_]]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:15:02 GMT, Larry Dighera >
wrote:

>On 11 Jan 2007 01:03:33 -0800, "John" > wrote in
. com>:
>
>>Great article from The Onion...
>
>What lead you to characterize this tripe as "great"?
>
>>Writer has to be a pilot or someone connected with aviation....
>>
>>http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50901
>
> "Of course it's scary, but I'm not going to stop flying because of
> it," sparrow Darryl Beardsley said, echoing the apparent sentiment
> of millions of other sparrows worldwide. "I guess it's just my
> nature."
>
>I'm an admirer of good satirical humor, but this thinly disguised
>piece aimed at denigrating airmen is not funny. Rather it attempts to
>unapologetically ridicule airmen in the eyes of the lay public without
>any redeeming merit.

Don't be so sensitive Larry. If you think they were picking on GA then
if you disliked that one you'll love this one about commercial
aviation. http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48747

As others have said, "It's the Onion".
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[Montblack]

("Jay Beckman" wrote)
> Now there's no need to be "shellfish."
>
> In fact, the admonishments you lob-ster the pot in an uncessary way!
>
> It's simply "claws and effect."


I'd better put this to bed, before I tank my next reply.


Mantblaak

[Larry Dighera]

On 11 Jan 2007 19:08:07 -0800, "xxx" > wrote in
. com>:

>Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>>
>> "Now the Lord God planted a garden East of Whittier in a place
>> called Yorba Linda, and out of the ground he made to grow orange
>> trees that were good for food and the fruits thereof he labeled
>> SUNKIST ..."
>> -- "The Begatting of a President"
>>
>
>Oh, now I see.
>
>Satire from a leftist political perspective == funny
>Anything else != funny
>
>Thanks for clearing that up.

You've got to remember to view the event from the prospective of the
time. Nixon was caught red handed, and many of his henchmen served
prison time. Nixon was a CROOK. He deserved to have been impeached,
and would have if he hadn't done some cleaver maneuvering by having
the vice president he appointed pardon him for unnamed crimes when he
resigned. Nixon was so guilty, that specific charges didn't even have
to be filed to trigger the pardon.

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote

> Nixon was so guilty, that specific charges didn't even have
> to be filed to trigger the pardon.

Your political rhetoric has become tiresome, and it's welcome has been long
ago worn out.

Can't you put it aside, for writing in this forum?
--
Jim in NC

[Grumman-581[_1_]]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:19:46 +0000, in
>, Larry Dighera wrote:
> You've got to remember to view the event from the prospective of the
> time. Nixon was caught red handed, and many of his henchmen served
> prison time. Nixon was a CROOK. He deserved to have been impeached,
> and would have if he hadn't done some cleaver maneuvering by having the
> vice president he appointed pardon him for unnamed crimes when he
> resigned. Nixon was so guilty, that specific charges didn't even have
> to be filed to trigger the pardon.

Nixon was just playing politics as usual for that time... He just got
caught doing what everyone else had been doing anyway... I liked Nixon...
Hell, I would vote for him again... Not only that, but I wouldn't let the
fact that he's dead stand in the way... <pphhhhlllttt>!!!

[Morgans[_2_]]

"Grumman-581" > wrote

> Nixon was just playing politics as usual for that time... He just got
> caught doing what everyone else had been doing anyway... I liked Nixon...
> Hell, I would vote for him again... Not only that, but I wouldn't let the
> fact that he's dead stand in the way... <pphhhhlllttt>!!!

Actually not quite the whole picture.

Nixon did not know about the Watergate incident, and when he found out, he
chose to be loyal to his henchmen, and try to cover it up.

If he would have been a real son-o'-bich, he would have turned them over to
authorities, and served out his term.
--
Jim in NC

[Don Byrer]

On 11 Jan 2007 01:03:33 -0800, "John" > wrote:

>Great article from The Onion...Writer has to be a pilot or someone
>connected with aviation....

Got a good chuckle out of that...'specially as I had a major pigeon
strike on takeoff a few years ago...

Boy...are those birds DUMB!

--Don

Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...<smack-smack-smack-smack...>"

[Danny Deger]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
> On 11 Jan 2007 01:03:33 -0800, "John" > wrote in
> . com>:
>
>>Great article from The Onion...
>
> What lead you to characterize this tripe as "great"?

Do you have anything better to do than use the Usenet to insult people?

Danny Deger

[Bret Cahill]

I don't know if it's available yet at Home Depot but supposedly they
have some new type of glass that birds can see.


Bret Cahill

[Montblack]

("Don Byrer" wrote)
> Got a good chuckle out of that...'specially as I had a major pigeon strike
> on takeoff a few years ago...
>
> Boy...are those birds DUMB!


That depends, doesn't it, on whoever hit the other guy? :-)


Montblack
http://web.ku.edu/~edit/whom.html
The Wise Old Owl says, "Who" "Whom"

1. That depends on "him"?
2. "He" hit the other guy?

(...no clue!) I went with #2 - whoever

[Larry Dighera]

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:05:01 -0600, "Danny Deger"
> wrote in
>:

>
>"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
...
>> On 11 Jan 2007 01:03:33 -0800, "John" > wrote in
>> . com>:
>>
>>>Great article from The Onion...
>>
>> What lead you to characterize this tripe as "great"?
>
>Do you have anything better to do than use the Usenet to insult people?
>

It was a legitimate question.

And I've got one for you too. What lead you to characterize my
question as an insult?

[Grumman-581[_1_]]

On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:18:37 -0800, in
. com>, Bret Cahill
wrote:
> I don't know if it's available yet at Home Depot but supposedly they
> have some new type of glass that birds can see.

Glass bricks? They've been around for awhile...

[Montblack]

("Montblack" wrote)
> That depends, doesn't it, on whoever hit the other guy? :-)

> http://web.ku.edu/~edit/whom.html
> The Wise Old Owl says, "Who" "Whom"
>
> 1. That depends on "him"?
> 2. "He" hit the other guy?
>
> (...no clue!) I went with #2 - whoever


I'm changing my answer to "whomever" ...because of the heading in the link:

"Yes, though it may depend on whom you ask!"


Mont;black
Advanced Aerodynamic Theory is eisier than this stuff!