Sebring and Hitlaw

[Dan[_2_]]

Roger wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 14:54:49 -0600, Dan > wrote:
>
>> Harry K wrote:
>>> On Jan 27, 12:22 pm, Dan > wrote:
>>>> BobR wrote:
>>>>> Thats because YOU haven't built anything. Two BD5's not finished and
>>>>> a BD5J bought finished and tinkered on but never finished and flown.
>>>>> Now compare that to Chucks record. You can't so don't even try.Actually yawn pushes it around the floor while making jet engine noises.
>>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>> Really? I don't think he even knows what a jet engine sounds like.
>>>
>>> Harry K
>>>
>> He says "zoom, zoom."
>
> I always thought they sounded like a big hot air leak...er ...never
> mind.
>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
> (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
> www.rogerhalstead.com

In which case yawn says "jim cambell, jim cambell."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[BobR]

I was totally disappointed with the whole thing. No imagination shown
and where or where was the all effective final statement that was sure
to bring you to your knees...

Govern Yourself Accordingly.

I guess I just miss the good old days!

On Jan 30, 7:24 am, ChuckSlusarczyk
> wrote:
> In article . com>, DABEAR
> says...
>
>
>
> >Captain Zoom's latest complaint per his established Modus Operandi:
> >zoom says:
> >Please be advised that my name is Jim Campbell, Editor-In-Chief of
> >the
> >Aero-News Network and an internationally syndicated journalist.Usual self puffing can you be considered "syndicated" if all you have is a web
> site?
>
> > has been stalking myself, my company and
> >a number of other persons from the aerospace industry for a fair
> >amount of time.The term "Stalking" and some vague victims and vague time span. A good start to
> a zoom rant.
>
> >If you look at the site in question, it will not take you long to see
> >that we have been dealing with a disturbed and obsessed personality
> >that
> >may pose an extreme danger to myself and others.Kettle ,pot black. Typical zoomer.
>
> > He is currently
> >under
> >investigation for threats in which "bombs and guns" were supposed to
> >be
> >used to settle a score he feels against Mike Houghton, the head of
> >the
> >Reno Air Races.Threats ,bombs and guns. He's setting a good pace and hitting all the usual
> terms.Vintage zoom.
>
> >He has threatened myself and a number of associates demanding
> >personal
> >information, publication of this latest manifesto, and other bizarre
> >actions.More threats and terms like manifesto and bizarre. Manifesto is a rarely used
> zoom term ,extra credit for innovation :-)
>
> > He has promised to publish my personal information,
> >including
> >banking and credit card records in order to create harm to myself.Hmm as if zoom has never done that to other people.If good for goose etc.He's
> hitting his stride.
>
> >He has
> >already posted my driver's license records in apparent violation of
> >Florida Law.Key word here is "apparent" zoom knows it isn't a violation of Florida law but
> implys it might be. almost full speed.
>
> > He has threatened me with death and other forms of
> >punishment
> >for failing to publish his demands in the past.More threats and now punishment.He's on a roll.
>
> >He has a number of
> >other sites dedicated to perpetrating his agenda, threatening those
> >with
> >whom he finds fault, rife with accusations of undocumented/unproven/
> >false
> >criminal behavior against some highly respected members of the
> >aerospace community, including XPrize founder Dr. Peter Diamandis.More threats and finally a name. I love the term "undocumented/ unproven/false
> criminal behavior". Terms used against zoomie all the time LOL!! Boy he's in
> fine form now.LOL!!
>
> >On a less important but possibly more immediately actionable note,
> >this"Actionable" first time this showed up in this rant.He slightly altering course
> and hitting afterburner.
>
> >person has stolen numerous photographs form the Aero-News Network,Ahha "stolen " my God this might be a record event in the making he has really
> hit his stride now .Everybody steals from him.Getting close to boilerplate zoom
> but with enough variables to make it interesting.
>
> >which are our copyrighted property and has republished them without
> >permission and despite numerous orders to desist.Good stuff but used many times before.Maybe he's tiring in the stretch.
>
> >"having recently fled California "if you move your fleeing in zooms world .Kinda like jaun fleeing to PR LOL!!
>
> > we feel ourselves to be at risk with each day. We demand
> >that
> >the site be taken down as a hazard to the lives and well-being of
> >myself, my staff, my family and my associates.Used to be myself,my staff,my wife, my dog but the same crap .Starting to slow
> down and lose stride.
>
> >only give rise to his fantasies of self-importance and the only
>
> >arbiter of
> >what is truthful about a number of subjects... despite the lack of
> >any
> >supporting evidence.ROTFL!! Kettle ,pot ,black.Might be getting his second wind.
>
> >" to avoid the
> >liability that your company may undertake through your the potential
> >refusal
> >to act,"He's closing in for the kill he just gave the first indication of a veiled
> threat to the provider.More vintage zoom. Shoukd be going for the finish.
>
> > now that you have been officially notified of our concerns"Officially notified" not just a phonecall but an official notification. I
> wouldn't have expected any less from the zoomster LOL!!He just coasted past the
> finish all out of steam....
>
> Snip some blah,blah ,blah.
>
> Well...This was a tough one to judge accurately because it contained a lot of
> the usual terms such as:
>
> "Stalking, Vagueness, accusing others of being disturbed, Extreme
> danger,investigations,bombs and guns,Threats, Bizzare actions, Violation of law,
> death threats, criminal behavior, Actionable, stolen property, copyrighted,
> Liability and finally the always present Offical notification".
>
> It was pretty good in as far as he didn't miss anything however it's all been
> used before. It was good entertainment but wasn't anything new. So on the Billy
> Bob rating system I'd give it a 8.5 ,might have given it a 9 if he said "Govern
> yourself accordingly" but he didn't .
>
> Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article . com>, BobR says...
>
>I was totally disappointed with the whole thing. No imagination shown
>and where or where was the all effective final statement that was sure
>to bring you to your knees...
>
>Govern Yourself Accordingly.
>
>I guess I just miss the good old days!
>> It was pretty good in as far as he didn't miss anything however it's all been
>>used before. It was good entertainment but wasn't anything new. So on the Billy
>>Bob rating system I'd give it a 8.5 ,might have given it a 9 if he said "Govern
>> yourself accordingly" but he didn't .

Totally disappointed? Wow your tough LOL!! Maybe I was bamboozled by the fact we
hadn't seen an actual rant for a while. So I'm guessing you would have given it
a 5 or less. We both agreed on the blatant omission of "govern yourself
accordingly" however. I'm sure before Da Bear and zoom war is over we'll see
more rants and that may temper my first glowing review in a long time :-)

I'm sure there will be battle ribbons for Da Bear when this one is over LOL!!

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

"I never graduated from National Test Pilot School but I played one once on TV"

[DABEAR]

On Jan 30, 10:42 am, ChuckSlusarczyk
> wrote:
> In article . com>, BobR says...

> We both agreed on the blatant omission of "govern yourself
> accordingly" however.

Here, guys...an oldie but goodie from October, 2005, which you haven't
seen yet...I want to see how this does on the Billy Bob rating scale!
<G> :

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~~~~~

The fool posted his "Legal notice" AFTER his messages...and according
to Online Policy Group vs Diebold, this type of notice is worthless
anyhow. The same is true of Law. If the man or his accessories are
involved in Criminal Misconduct, a citizen is responsible to report it
and the Press must address the Public's Right to Know and the Public
Good under the First Amendment...

Imagine an Al Qaeda terrorist threatening to detonate a "dirty" bomb
in Washington D.C. His threat is true; the information is true; the
proof is undeniable; he gives away the exact location. He sends it to
a newspaper Editor, then attaches the same "Legal Notice" on the end
as Jim Campbell.

Do you, as a newspaper Editor, report him or don't you!? <G>

BTW, Campbell is not in Washington D.C. at the time ~ neither is
Yawnita or his BD-5J ~ so this is NOT a trick question...

....just in case you were wondering. LOL!!!

BTW, wait til you see the exchanges and the e-mails that make Campbell
a liar...coming soon! To a Federal Court near you! Or, maybe
USENET. And remember, he swore all this under penalty of Federal
Perjury! <GGG> All of it is denied, of course, and was at the time
and remains so today.

Has anyone yet figured out just how many times Campbell has threatened
someone and used that "Govern Yourself Accordingly" line? I think
that would be a better record for Guiness than anything involving an
unflyable, unairworthy, highly questionable BD-5J, second-hand "built"
by some Armchair Vietnam Veteran using what A. Mary Schiavo of the FAA
once defined as "suspected unapproved parts."

I mean, I hear there are people here and in RAH-14 still receiving the
threats. As for me, despite his claim in his latest rant, I've had no
contact from the moron.

The silence is deafening...as is usually the case when the silence is
coming from the guilty.

[Barnyard BOb]

On 30 Jan 2007 05:24:05 -0800, ChuckSlusarczyk
> wrote:

>>If you look at the site in question, it will not take you long to see
>>that we have been dealing with a disturbed and obsessed personality
>>that
>>may pose an extreme danger to myself and others.
>
>Kettle ,pot black. Typical zoomer.

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Speaking of disturbed and obsessed personalities.....

Is Zoom still banned from Sun N Fun?


-Unka BOb-

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Barnyard BOb says...

>Speaking of disturbed and obsessed personalities.....
>
>Is Zoom still banned from Sun N Fun?

Hi Unka Bob
He sure is and it seems he's not making much headway with his lawsuit against
SnF . Ron Wanttaja has been keeping up with the proceedings and filling us in.
Once again this year I'm offering a $100.00 reward for spotting zoom and telling
me where he is. It will be the best C note I ever spent LOL!!!
If you go to SnF this year be sure to stop in and have a brew.

See ya
Nefoo Chuck

[Barnyard BOb]

> ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

>> Barnyard BOb says...
>
>>Speaking of disturbed and obsessed personalities.....
>>
>>Is Zoom still banned from Sun N Fun?
>
>Hi Unka Bob
>He sure is and it seems he's not making much headway with his lawsuit against
>SnF . Ron Wanttaja has been keeping up with the proceedings and filling us in.
>Once again this year I'm offering a $100.00 reward for spotting zoom and telling
>me where he is. It will be the best C note I ever spent LOL!!!


>If you go to SnF this year be sure to stop in and have a brew.
>
>See ya
>Nefoo Chuck

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Whoa, Nefoo Chuck!

Have a..... B-R-E-W ?!?!?!?!

What the hell's happened?
Did the Feds shut down yer MUZZLE LOADER operation?

[Ya gotta' know I'm DYING fora tad.]


- Unka' BOb-
Approaching 53 years of legal licensed flight

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Barnyard BOb says...
>
>
>> ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
>
>>> Barnyard BOb says...
>>
>>>Speaking of disturbed and obsessed personalities.....
>>>
>>>Is Zoom still banned from Sun N Fun?
>>
>>Hi Unka Bob
>>He sure is and it seems he's not making much headway with his lawsuit against
>>SnF . Ron Wanttaja has been keeping up with the proceedings and filling us in.
>>Once again this year I'm offering a $100.00 reward for spotting zoom and telling
>>me where he is. It will be the best C note I ever spent LOL!!!
>
>
>>If you go to SnF this year be sure to stop in and have a brew.
>>
>>See ya
>>Nefoo Chuck
>
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>Whoa, Nefoo Chuck!
>
>Have a..... B-R-E-W ?!?!?!?!
>
>What the hell's happened?
>Did the Feds shut down yer MUZZLE LOADER operation?
>
>[Ya gotta' know I'm DYING fora tad.]

Hey Unk

I'm sorry for the scare I meant "Muzzle Loader" LOL!!! They ain't found it yet I
got the still hid in the basement of the AA Club downtown :-)I'll have more then
a tad. Your resurection after you died at Pickneyville still brings a tear to my
eye and I was there to see it. Twas a grand time.

See ya

Nefoo Chuck

[Barnyard BOb]

>>>If you go to SnF this year be sure to stop in and have a brew.
>>>
>>>See ya
>>>Nefoo Chuck
>>
>>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>
>>Whoa, Nefoo Chuck!
>>
>>Have a..... B-R-E-W ?!?!?!?!
>>
>>What the hell's happened?
>>Did the Feds shut down yer MUZZLE LOADER operation?
>>
>>[Ya gotta' know I'm DYING fora tad.]
>
>Hey Unk
>
>I'm sorry for the scare I meant "Muzzle Loader" LOL!!! They ain't found it yet I
>got the still hid in the basement of the AA Club downtown :-)I'll have more then
>a tad. Your resurection after you died at Pickneyville still brings a tear to my
>eye and I was there to see it. Twas a grand time.
>
>See ya
>
>Nefoo Chuck
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-

Yes, Nefoo.

Twas a grand time....

* FOR YOU *


Fer me, I lost count of how many times and weeks that my
blood pressure monitor was returned fer repairs/replacement.
Couldn't get a damn reading after that P'Ville hootenanny.

Turns out these gizmos will not register squat unless....
a body is at least in semi working condition! 8-D

- Unka' BOb -

[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> So, tell me what an IT Service Manager does.

Consults in implementations of ITIL/IT Service Management and/or leads the
same.

> Spell it out. In our company, we have an IT Manager that sets up
> routers, switches, etc.

Wrong answer. You're making the common mistake of confusing ICT
Infrastructure Management with IT Service Management. Go read the site I
gave you, you will find it eye-opening.



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> Why get a refund? I want to work with the equipment, not sit on my ass
> and boss others around and take all the glory for their fine work...I
> guess I got an extra dose of humility when they were handing it out.
>
> Scott

You'll figure it out when you grow up. IT Service Management is not about
bossing anyone around.



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
.130...
> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
>> .130...
>>> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Of course I brought it up, you then tried to make some comedy of it.
>>>> Keep your day job. :)
>>>
>>> Which is more than you can do, apparently.
>>
>> Sorry to hurt your feelings, but I'm booked solid through April.
>> What's your excuse for losing your job?
>
> Oh boy, another IKYABWAI.
>
>
>
> And booked solid through april?
>
> Bwahwahhwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwha hwhahwhhahwhahwh!

Yup, all the way to the bank. I see you're easily entertained. You go,
kiddo! :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> What do you do after April? That's only a few months away...

The same thing, train and bill.



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"BobR" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Thats because YOU haven't built anything.

<bzzzt!> Wrong answer. Hell, Bob, you haven't even looked at my website? :)

> Two BD5's not finished and a BD5J bought finished and tinkered on but
> never finished and flown.
> Now compare that to Chucks record. You can't so don't even try.

Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
someone who builds things that kill others.



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
...
> Have you built ANYTHING to completion where someone COULD die in something
> you built? Sounds like a challenge to me...
>
> Scott

Why would anyone want to build something so someone could die in it? I mean,
other than Chuck, that is. :)

You people are so weird.... :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Juan Jimenez
> says...
>>> Can you count the similarities between the two accidents, Juan?
>>>
>>> A well proven design
>>> A respected company
>>> An American hero
>>> Fateful decisions made by the pilot...
>>
>>You missed one. No one has died in anything I have built.
>
> You missed one...what have you ever built and flown???

Nothing that anyone has ever died in. Next.




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"BobR" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> You are...and you know it.

Really? That someone whose first language is Spanish should have to teach
you reading comprehension is just hilarious, Bob. :)

> That is a low blow even for a moron like you.

Bob, kiddo, you _are_ the definition of a low blow, with all that hot air
coming out and nothing ever accomplished with it. Whine, whine, whine... :)




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"BobR" > wrote in message
ps.com...
> Guess the EAA must be one of his groupies since they voted him into
> the Ultralight Hall of Fame.

Like that means a whole lot. Do you know the American Numismatic Association
holds a place of honor in their hall of fame for a convicted child molester
who died in jail? Halls of fame have no bearing on someone's credibility or
value as a human being.




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Juan Jimenez
> says...
>>> Yawn...Apologize for what?? calling a toady a toady??
>>
>>That is why you deserve no respect, and enjoy no credibility with anyone
>>outside your dozen or so groupies.
>
> I don't want or need you to give me credibility or respect,your opinion is
> worth
> nothing.

Your saying that to me is an honor. I could care less what you think about
me, putz. :)




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

> wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>
> On Jan 27, 11:47 pm, "Juan Jimenez" > wrote:
>> "ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in
>> ...
>>
>> > In article >, Juan Jimenez
>> > says...
>>
>> >>Any more war heroes stupid enough to buy airplanes from you lately?
>>
>> > So now your saying John Walton is "stupid".No. You are.
>>
>> I'm asking if any billionaire war heroes have made a stupid decision to
>> buy
>> one your airplanes since then. Doing so would indeed be a stupid thing to
>
> A really stupid decision would be to buy the piece of horse **** you
> are trying to sell. You can't even start it much less fit your fat ass
> into it.

Wrong on both counts. But then again, I can understand why you say that,
given your need to carry ballast to balance any plane you try to squeeze
into. :)




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
30...
> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
> :
>
>> Oh, I'm sure it will come to you, someday.
>
> It will certainly never come to you.
>
> And you know it, don't you?

Don't forget to mention that to your therapist. :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"red12049" > wrote in message
...
>
> Juan, Chuck never built that airplane. He supplied a kit to a buyer.

And the kit designed and built itself. Right. :)

> Juan, that airplane is no more Chuck's than a 32 Ford hotrod is still a
> Ford.

So, you're saying that as far as you know, Chuck disowns anything he sells
the minute it goes out the door? Hmm.

> And yes, Juan, I stand by my statement:

And? Is that supposed to mean something to me?



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"DABEAR" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>>Take Daniels, for example. Certifiable by any standard.
>
> Actually Juan, I'm not the one running around telling lies about
> people, like you and your "mental" mentor, James R. "Captain Zoom"
> Campbell:

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Is that why Hostmonster is begging people to bring injunctions so they can
have the pleasure of shutting down your bizarre websites? :)




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
> In article . com>, DABEAR
> says...Major snip
>
>>We'll go to Court and take the fight to him now...anyone care to
>>testify about being "Zoomed?" Looking for witnesses that want Justice
>>served like crow for the eating in Jim Campbell's regard.
>
> I would gladly testify as to how I got "zoomed" and I'll bring my ducks
> :-)

Your "ducks" have been in that box for years. They're dead. Get over it. :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"BobR" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> >.All the emoticons and such don't change the tone and meanings of your
>>replies one iota. No selective reading on my part Juan, YOU changed your
>>sentence re: Mr. Walton after I and Chuck called you on it. You may call
>>this humor, but humor is not usally consistently demeaning and insulting.
>>I
>>have tried to have an intelligent and non demeaning discussion with you.
>>Your choice whether to continue in the same vein or not.
>
> You are attempting the impossible...an intelligent and non demeaning
> discussion with Jaun.

Is that why you agreed with me on DFW.POLITICS when I posted that blast to
the schmucks whining about the pizza place taking pesos?

You're such a whining hypocrit, Bob. :)



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[Dan[_2_]]

Juan Jimenez wrote:
> "Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Have you built ANYTHING to completion where someone COULD die in something
>> you built? Sounds like a challenge to me...
>>
>> Scott
>
> Why would anyone want to build something so someone could die in it? I mean,
> other than Chuck, that is. :)

More people have died in BD-5 variants than in Chuck's design.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Juan Jimenez says...
>Your saying that to me is an honor. I could care less what you think about
>me, putz. :)

Better a putz then a bigot and racist.

Chuck S

Remember the Alamo ...again

[BobR]

On Feb 5, 5:39 pm, "Juan Jimenez" > wrote:
> "BobR" > wrote in message
>
> oups.com...
>
> > >.All the emoticons and such don't change the tone and meanings of your
> >>replies one iota. No selective reading on my part Juan, YOU changed your
> >>sentence re: Mr. Walton after I and Chuck called you on it. You may call
> >>this humor, but humor is not usally consistently demeaning and insulting.
> >>I
> >>have tried to have an intelligent and non demeaning discussion with you.
> >>Your choice whether to continue in the same vein or not.
>
> > You are attempting the impossible...an intelligent and non demeaning
> > discussion with Jaun.
>
> Is that why you agreed with me on DFW.POLITICS when I posted that blast to
> the schmucks whining about the pizza place taking pesos?
>
> You're such a whining hypocrit, Bob. :)
>
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Hell Jaun, even a stop clock is right twice a day which is one up on
you.

[Scott[_1_]]

So I ask AGAIN, what is it? I don't claim to know everything like you
always do. No matter what topic comes up, you seem to know all about it
and expect everyone else to know it and won't answer specific questions
asked of you. This is the closest thing I found for a job description
(and don't bother giving me the "it ain't the same thing as an IT
SERVICE Manager" -- at the site I looked at, I didn't see IT Service
Magaer -- http://www.salary.com/ ):

Information Technology Manager
Manages the information technology department in accordance with
organizational policies and goals. Ensures proper functioning of
company's information processing system and makes upgrades as necessary.
Helps business operations utilize information systems to improve
efficiency. Keeps computer equipment, hardware, and software updated to
meet organizational needs. Follows appropriate programming procedures.
Requires a bachelor's degree and at least 5 years of experience in the
field or in a related area. Familiar with a variety of the field's
concepts, practices, and procedures. Relies on extensive experience and
judgment to plan and accomplish goals. Performs a variety of tasks. May
lead and direct the work of others. A wide degree of creativity and
latitude is expected. Typically reports to top management.

I figure you can't answer the questions because you really don't know
what you're talking about. All you keep doing is telling people to grow
up and get a clue. So, I'll give you a grown up answer. Stick your
****ty attitude up your ass. I'm done being patient with you. Civility
doesn't work with you so in this one case, I'll stoop down to your level.

Scott



Juan Jimenez wrote:
> "Scott" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>Why get a refund? I want to work with the equipment, not sit on my ass
>>and boss others around and take all the glory for their fine work...I
>>guess I got an extra dose of humility when they were handing it out.
>>
>>Scott
>
>
> You'll figure it out when you grow up. IT Service Management is not about
> bossing anyone around.
>
>
>

[Scott[_1_]]

Great job twisting the words around. I'll rephrase. Have you built any
airplane capable of carrying a human aloft 100% to completion?

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:

> "Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Have you built ANYTHING to completion where someone COULD die in something
>>you built? Sounds like a challenge to me...
>>
>>Scott
>
>
> Why would anyone want to build something so someone could die in it? I mean,
> other than Chuck, that is. :)
>
> You people are so weird.... :)
>
>
>

[Scott[_1_]]

Juan Jimenez wrote:

>>
>>You missed one...what have you ever built and flown???
>
>
> Nothing. Next.
>
>
>
>

[Scott[_1_]]

So, you ARE saying the war hero WAS stupid. Wouldn't a stupid person be
more inclined to make a stupid decision?

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:


>>>
>>>I'm asking if any billionaire war heroes have made a stupid decision to
>>>buy
>>>one your airplanes since then. Doing so would indeed be a stupid thing to

[Scott[_1_]]

I think it's great they take pesos. Most places that take foreign
currency use their own inflated exchange rate and end up taking more
money from the people using foreign currency than if they had exchanged
it at a bank or exchange service.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:

> "BobR" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>
>>>.All the emoticons and such don't change the tone and meanings of your
>>>replies one iota. No selective reading on my part Juan, YOU changed your
>>>sentence re: Mr. Walton after I and Chuck called you on it. You may call
>>>this humor, but humor is not usally consistently demeaning and insulting.
>>>I
>>>have tried to have an intelligent and non demeaning discussion with you.
>>>Your choice whether to continue in the same vein or not.
>>
>>You are attempting the impossible...an intelligent and non demeaning
>>discussion with Jaun.
>
>
> Is that why you agreed with me on DFW.POLITICS when I posted that blast to
> the schmucks whining about the pizza place taking pesos?
>
> You're such a whining hypocrit, Bob. :)
>
>
>

[Barnyard BOb]

>>Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>
>> Why would anyone want to build something so someone could die in it? I mean,
>> other than Chuck, that is. :)
>
>More people have died in BD-5 variants than in Chuck's design.
>
>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Dan.

Could this be an Oscar caliber unabashed display of
the pot calling the kettle black, facts be damned?

My experience is that truth has no power in a war
of words when you enter Jaun's propaganda camp.
It is the first casualty.

Rather than be disadvantaged in this manner,
SHUNNING has worked well for me.


Barnyard BOb -
"Never wrestle with a pig - you'll both get dirty
and the pig will love it,"

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>
>Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>someone who builds things that kill others.

*NOBODY* has survived a flight in a plane you built, have they?

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>
>"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Juan Jimenez
>> says...
>>>> Can you count the similarities between the two accidents, Juan?
>>>>
>>>> A well proven design
>>>> A respected company
>>>> An American hero
>>>> Fateful decisions made by the pilot...
>>>
>>>You missed one. No one has died in anything I have built.
>>
>> You missed one...what have you ever built and flown???
>
>Nothing that anyone has ever died in. Next.

Correction; Nothing that anyone has ever *survived* a flight in.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

We all know that you guys don't like each other. Can you please end this
round of the fued? It is killing the group.

[Alphonse Le Creur[_1_]]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in news:45c7b1e2$0$16291$88260bb3
@free.teranews.com:

>
> "Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
> 30...
>> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Oh, I'm sure it will come to you, someday.
>>
>> It will certainly never come to you.
>>
>> And you know it, don't you?
>
> Don't forget to mention that to your therapist. :)
>

Aww, more lames from the Juannnabee pilot..

[Alphonse Le Creur[_1_]]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in news:45c7b1dd$1$16291$88260bb3
@free.teranews.com:

>
> "Scott" > wrote in message
> .. .
>> What do you do after April? That's only a few months away...
>
> The same thing, train and bill.
>

Since you can't fly that's fraudn Juannabee.

[Alphonse Le Creur.[_1_]]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in news:45c7b1dd$0$16291$88260bb3
@free.teranews.com:

>
> "Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
> .130...
>> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>> "Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
>>> .130...
>>>> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Of course I brought it up, you then tried to make some comedy of
it.
>>>>> Keep your day job. :)
>>>>
>>>> Which is more than you can do, apparently.
>>>
>>> Sorry to hurt your feelings, but I'm booked solid through April.
>>> What's your excuse for losing your job?
>>
>> Oh boy, another IKYABWAI.
>>
>>
>>
>> And booked solid through april?
>>
>> Bwahwahhwhahwhahwhahwhhahwhahwhahhwhahwhahwhahhwha hwhahwhhahwhahwh!
>
> Yup, all the way to the bank. I see you're easily entertained. You go,
> kiddo! :)
>

I'd have to be easily entertained to watch a monketboi like you.

Brace yerself wannabee boi..

[Alphonse Le Creur.]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
:

>
> > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 11:47 pm, "Juan Jimenez" > wrote:
>>> "ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in
>>> ...
>>>
>>> > In article >, Juan
>>> > Jimenez says...
>>>
>>> >>Any more war heroes stupid enough to buy airplanes from you
>>> >>lately?
>>>
>>> > So now your saying John Walton is "stupid".No. You are.
>>>
>>> I'm asking if any billionaire war heroes have made a stupid decision
>>> to buy
>>> one your airplanes since then. Doing so would indeed be a stupid
>>> thing to
>>
>> A really stupid decision would be to buy the piece of horse **** you
>> are trying to sell. You can't even start it much less fit your fat
>> ass into it.
>
> Wrong on both counts. But then again, I can understand why you say
> that, given your need to carry ballast to balance any plane you try to
> squeeze into. :)

At least he tries to squeeze into them..

Tell us again why you're trying to sell an airplane you're too afraid to
fly?

[Alphonse Le Creur[_1_]]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
:

>
> "BobR" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Thats because YOU haven't built anything.
>
> <bzzzt!> Wrong answer. Hell, Bob, you haven't even looked at my
> website? :)
>
>> Two BD5's not finished and a BD5J bought finished and tinkered on but
>> never finished and flown.
>> Now compare that to Chucks record. You can't so don't even try.
>
> Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
> someone who builds things that kill others.
>

Good grief..


The sheer hypocrisy of this is just monumental

[red12049[_1_]]

Quote:

Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
> someone who builds things that kill others.
>


Funny, I would see this as a rather exalted list, ranging from the Wright
Brothers right up to current day manufacturers. I haven't done any real
research, but I suspect that there never was a manufacturer in the aircraft
industry who hasn't had someone die in a product with their name on it.
McDonnell? check. Douglas? check. Lockheed? check. And so on. Strange
thing though... "pilot error" seems to be reserved only for those who die in
one of Mr. Bede's products....


"Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
. 130...
> "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> "BobR" > wrote in message
>> oups.com...
>>> Thats because YOU haven't built anything.
>>
>> <bzzzt!> Wrong answer. Hell, Bob, you haven't even looked at my
>> website? :)
>>
>>> Two BD5's not finished and a BD5J bought finished and tinkered on but
>>> never finished and flown.
>>> Now compare that to Chucks record. You can't so don't even try.
>>
>> Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>> someone who builds things that kill others.
>>
>
> Good grief..
>
>
> The sheer hypocrisy of this is just monumental
>
>
>

[BobR]

On Feb 7, 12:41 am, "red12049" > wrote:
> Quote:
>
> Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>
> > someone who builds things that kill others.
>
> Funny, I would see this as a rather exalted list, ranging from the Wright
> Brothers right up to current day manufacturers. I haven't done any real
> research, but I suspect that there never was a manufacturer in the aircraft
> industry who hasn't had someone die in a product with their name on it.
> McDonnell? check. Douglas? check. Lockheed? check. And so on. Strange
> thing though... "pilot error" seems to be reserved only for those who die in
> one of Mr. Bede's products....
>

Funny, someone else finally saw the irony in Jaun's arguments
defending Bede and the BD5 for the number of people killed, his own
fear of flying the BD5J and the constant slams against Chuck for
someone who was killed in a highly modified version of one of the
aircraft that Chuck sells.


> "Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in messagenews:Xns98D03529DC67nunyfjukkinbidness@207. 14.116.130...
>
>
>
> > "Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
> :
>
> >> "BobR" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >>> Thats because YOU haven't built anything.
>
> >> <bzzzt!> Wrong answer. Hell, Bob, you haven't even looked at my
> >> website? :)
>
> >>> Two BD5's not finished and a BD5J bought finished and tinkered on but
> >>> never finished and flown.
> >>> Now compare that to Chucks record. You can't so don't even try.
>
> >> Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
> >> someone who builds things that kill others.
>
> > Good grief..
>
> > The sheer hypocrisy of this is just monumental- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article . com>, BobR says...
>
>Funny, someone else finally saw the irony in Jaun's arguments
>defending Bede and the BD5 for the number of people killed, his own
>fear of flying the BD5J and the constant slams against Chuck for
>someone who was killed in a highly modified version of one of the
>aircraft that Chuck sells.

It's a tough thing when someone gets killed in a product you made. Not as tough
as for the person and his family but obviously it's tough, believe me.
When we had our first fatality back in 1983 I was devastated by it. Up to then
everything was great fun. We were selling lots of planes, guys were flying all
over the place telling us how much they enjoyed their Hawk.

Then one day I got a letter with a newspaper article and written on the paper in
magic marker was a simple statement "scratch one Hawk" .The only time I ever
felt hat bad was when my Dad died.During the course of the investigation a guy
from the FAA helped put it into perspective for me.

He said think about the guy who works at Ford building cars he knows that a
percent of the cars he works on will be in accidents and people will be injured
or die. But if he did his job right and he didn't screw up he's not responsible
for the accident. When people drink and drive or do all the things people do
that cause accidents it's not the fault of the Ford designers, Ford Motors or
the employees.

He said the same with you .If you did every thing right and the product is good
and people misuse ,screw up or modify it then it's ultimately their fault not
yours.
But the difference between the Ford guy and you is the Ford guy didn't know the
person who crashed and you probably do and so it hurts more. So when there's an
accident I investigate so as to find the cause and everyone so far has been the
result of a mistake ,screw up, unauthorized modifications and a couple of
inflight heart attacks. I still feel terrible after an accident but
knowing I wasn't directly responsible helps. I just pray to God I never screw up
and have someone crash because of a bad design or part...that would be a lot to
bear so I do my best to see it doesn't happen....

Now go ahead jaun make fun of this ...

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

[Owe R.]

"Juan Jimenez" > skrev i meddelandet
.. .
>
> "BobR" > wrote in message
> ps.com...
> > Guess the EAA must be one of his groupies since they voted him into
> > the Ultralight Hall of Fame.
>
> Like that means a whole lot. Do you know the American Numismatic
Association
> holds a place of honor in their hall of fame for a convicted child
molester
> who died in jail? Halls of fame have no bearing on someone's credibility
or
> value as a human being.
>
Then it must be possible even for you to end up in some kind of Hall of
fame?

Have a nice day the rest of you.

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Owe R. says...
>
>
>"Juan Jimenez" > skrev i meddelandet

>> > Guess the EAA must be one of his groupies since they voted him into
>> > the Ultralight Hall of Fame.
>>
>> Like that means a whole lot. Do you know the American Numismatic
>Association
>> holds a place of honor in their hall of fame for a convicted child
>molester
>> who died in jail? Halls of fame have no bearing on someone's credibility
>or
>> value as a human being.
>>
>Then it must be possible even for you to end up in some kind of Hall of
>fame?
>
>Have a nice day the rest of you.

If it were so easy to get into the Hall of Fame at EAA or any other venue one
would think that if zoom was all he says he is that surely by now he would have
been recognized for his contributions to aviation. I don't know of one award
zoom has ever gotten from anyone or any group for anything. You can rest assured
if he would have gotten any award it would be on his bio along with his other
phony accomplishments.

If the Numismatic Association has room for a child molester then maybe there's a
spot there for zoom LOL!!Their standards must be lower then the EAA's :-)

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"BobR" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> On Feb 5, 5:39 pm, "Juan Jimenez" > wrote:
>> "BobR" > wrote in message
>>
>> oups.com...
>>
>> > >.All the emoticons and such don't change the tone and meanings of your
>> >>replies one iota. No selective reading on my part Juan, YOU changed
>> >>your
>> >>sentence re: Mr. Walton after I and Chuck called you on it. You may
>> >>call
>> >>this humor, but humor is not usally consistently demeaning and
>> >>insulting.
>> >>I
>> >>have tried to have an intelligent and non demeaning discussion with
>> >>you.
>> >>Your choice whether to continue in the same vein or not.
>>
>> > You are attempting the impossible...an intelligent and non demeaning
>> > discussion with Jaun.
>>
>> Is that why you agreed with me on DFW.POLITICS when I posted that blast
>> to
>> the schmucks whining about the pizza place taking pesos?
>>
>> You're such a whining hypocrit, Bob. :)
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Hell Jaun, even a stop clock is right twice a day which is one up on
> you.

LOL! So you celebrate the fact you're right about twice a day? You go, boy.
Have fun. :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Barnyard BOb" > wrote in message
...
>
> My experience is that truth has no power in a war
> of words when you enter Jaun's propaganda camp.
> It is the first casualty.

Yeah, kind of like you pretending you can do something as simple as
elementary arithmetic without a calculator, and choosing folding wing
planes. :)




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Juan Jimenez
> says...
>>Your saying that to me is an honor. I could care less what you think about
>>me, putz. :)
>
> Better a putz then a bigot and racist.

No wonder you hang out at the Putz clothing store in Oshkosh. LOL!



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> So I ask AGAIN, what is it?

I already told you it's about service management, not systems management, I
pointed you to the source of knowledge. Read. www.itil.co.uk.

> Information Technology Manager

Not even close. Go to monster.com and search for ITIL.

And please clean the foam off the floor when you're done whining....

Juan



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> Great job twisting the words around. I'll rephrase. Have you built any
> airplane capable of carrying a human aloft 100% to completion?

Yup. It's in Spain right now. Belongs to a Netjets pilot, and its successful
entry into the Spanish register means Howard Cox and his BD-5B will also
soon be flying, no thinks to the British Braindead CAA.

Next!




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

Nope, that's you saying that. Why does a person who speaks English as a
second language have to teach you reading comprehension? Weird. :)

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> So, you ARE saying the war hero WAS stupid. Wouldn't a stupid person be
> more inclined to make a stupid decision?
>
> Scott
>
>
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>
>>>>
>>>>I'm asking if any billionaire war heroes have made a stupid decision to
>>>>buy
>>>>one your airplanes since then. Doing so would indeed be a stupid thing
>>>>to



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>
>>Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>>someone who builds things that kill others.
>
> *NOBODY* has survived a flight in a plane you built, have they?

Wrong again! And so another RAH gaggler goes down in flames. :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> We all know that you guys don't like each other. Can you please end this
> round of the fued? It is killing the group.

No problem, just thrown the rah gagglers out. I'm out for a week and half
and they're still posting their usual BS. <shrug>



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
.130...
>
> Aww, more lames from the Juannnabee pilot..

Is that all your prepubescent mind can come up with, sonny? Grade school
name variations? <chuckle>



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Alphonse Le Creur." > wrote in message
. 130...

> At least he tries to squeeze into them..

How would you know, you the human shoehorn for the gaggle? :)

> Tell us again why you're trying to sell an airplane you're too afraid to
> fly?

Make me an offer and we can talk. <lol!> :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Richard Riley" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 05:12:12 +0000 (UTC), "Alphonse Le Creur."
> > wrote:
>>> Wrong on both counts. But then again, I can understand why you say
>>> that, given your need to carry ballast to balance any plane you try to
>>> squeeze into. :)
>>
>>At least he tries to squeeze into them..
>>
>>Tell us again why you're trying to sell an airplane you're too afraid to
>>fly?
>
> For the money?

Your IQ just popped a notch. :)



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Owe R." > wrote in message
...
>
> Then it must be possible even for you to end up in some kind of Hall of
> fame?

Not on the basis of building things that kill war heroes, that's fersure.




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
>
> If it were so easy to get into the Hall of Fame at EAA or any other venue
> one
> would think that if zoom was all he says he is that surely by now he would
> have
> been recognized for his contributions to aviation. I don't know of one
> award
> zoom has ever gotten from anyone or any group for anything.

Interesting you should mention that. I would surmise you haven't seen
anything because you're just not in the same league as he is. He gives out
awards, are places like AOPA Expo, with people like Phil Boyer standing next
to him. :)




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[Scott[_1_]]

No, why would a smart person make a dumb decision?

And again I say, (in response to your quote at the bottom of this message)

1. Stupid people make stupid decisions (why else would they be called
stupid people?). (According to me)
2. A billionaire war hero made a stupid decision. (According to you)

Therefore the billionaire was stupid. (By deductive reasoning)

Go ahead and twist the English language around all you want. That is
what was implied by what you said.

Scott


Juan Jimenez wrote:

> Nope, that's you saying that. Why does a person who speaks English as a
> second language have to teach you reading comprehension? Weird. :)
>
> "Scott" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>So, you ARE saying the war hero WAS stupid. Wouldn't a stupid person be
>>more inclined to make a stupid decision?
>>
>>Scott
>>
>>
>>Juan Jimenez wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>I'm asking if any billionaire war heroes have made a stupid decision to
>>>>>buy
>>>>>one your airplanes since then. Doing so would indeed be a stupid thing
>>>>>to
>
>
>
>

[Scott[_1_]]

No, for building world record airplanes that haven't even flown.



Juan Jimenez wrote:

> "Owe R." > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Then it must be possible even for you to end up in some kind of Hall of
>>fame?
>
>
> Not on the basis of building things that kill war heroes, that's fersure.
>
>
>
>

[Scott[_1_]]

So, you built it from the first bolt all the way to certification?



Juan Jimenez wrote:

> "Scott" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>Great job twisting the words around. I'll rephrase. Have you built any
>>airplane capable of carrying a human aloft 100% to completion?
>
>
> Yup. It's in Spain right now. Belongs to a Netjets pilot, and its successful
> entry into the Spanish register means Howard Cox and his BD-5B will also
> soon be flying, no thinks to the British Braindead CAA.
>
> Next!
>
>
>
>

[Scott[_1_]]

I'm not whining...I could give a **** less. I just want to know what is
so special about what you do that you feel I should get a refund from
the University of Wisconsin because they didn't teach me what the ****
the job description is for what you do. Do you know the job
descriptions for every damn job in the world? How about a zymurgist? A
petrographer? Here's one you probably do...a proctologist?



Juan Jimenez wrote:

> "Scott" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>So I ask AGAIN, what is it?
>
>
> I already told you it's about service management, not systems management, I
> pointed you to the source of knowledge. Read. www.itil.co.uk.
>
>
>>Information Technology Manager
>
>
> Not even close. Go to monster.com and search for ITIL.
>
> And please clean the foam off the floor when you're done whining....
>
> Juan
>
>
>

[Barnyard BOb]

Scott > wrote:

>I'm not whining...I could give a **** less. I just want to know what is
>so special about what you do that you feel I should get a refund from
>the University of Wisconsin because they didn't teach me what the ****
>the job description is for what you do. Do you know the job
>descriptions for every damn job in the world? How about a zymurgist? A
> petrographer? Here's one you probably do...a proctologist?
>
>
>
>Juan Jimenez upchucked the following:
>>
>> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
>> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
>> BLAH, BLAH, BLAH......

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

To repeat an earlier post.....

My experience is that truth has no power in a war
of words when you enter Jaun's propaganda camp.
It is the first casualty.

Rather than be disadvantaged in this manner,
SHUNNING has worked well for me.


Barnyard BOb -
"Never wrestle with a pig - you'll both get dirty
and the pig will love it,"

[Scott[_1_]]

I hear ya. I've just been in a sadistic mood for the past few weeks.
Must be all the below zero weather! Well, it's finally gotten above
zero, so I should be getting out of the mood soon :)

Scott



Barnyard BOb wrote:


> To repeat an earlier post.....
>
> My experience is that truth has no power in a war
> of words when you enter Jaun's propaganda camp.
> It is the first casualty.
>
> Rather than be disadvantaged in this manner,
> SHUNNING has worked well for me.
>
>
> Barnyard BOb -
> "Never wrestle with a pig - you'll both get dirty
> and the pig will love it,"

[Alphonse, Le Creur]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in news:45d4d21c$0$16331$88260bb3
@free.teranews.com:

>
> "Alphonse Le Creur" > wrote in message
> .130...
>>
>> Aww, more lames from the Juannnabee pilot..
>
> Is that all your prepubescent mind can come up with, sonny? Grade
school
> name variations? <chuckle>
>
>

No. But it wil do for a start, Jannnnabeee.

[Alphonse Le Creur[_1_]]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
:

>
> "Alphonse Le Creur." > wrote in message
> . 130...
>
>> At least he tries to squeeze into them..
>
> How would you know, you the human shoehorn for the gaggle? :)
>
>> Tell us again why you're trying to sell an airplane you're too afraid
>> to fly?
>
> Make me an offer and we can talk. <lol!> :)
>

@ bucks. I can possibly reuse the hardware if you haven't fjukked that
up as well.



>

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>
>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>>
>>>Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>>>someone who builds things that kill others.
>>
>> *NOBODY* has survived a flight in a plane you built, have they?
>
>Wrong again! And so another RAH gaggler goes down in flames. :)

Can you prove it? Where are the flight records? Where are the construction
records?

At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
construction work, and claime I did it myself.

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Juan Jimenez says...
>
>
>"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> If it were so easy to get into the Hall of Fame at EAA or any other venue
>> one
>> would think that if zoom was all he says he is that surely by now he would
>> have
>> been recognized for his contributions to aviation. I don't know of one
>> award
>> zoom has ever gotten from anyone or any group for anything.
>
>Interesting you should mention that. I would surmise you haven't seen
>anything because you're just not in the same league as he is. He gives out
>awards, are places like AOPA Expo, with people like Phil Boyer standing next
>to him. :)


If the AOPA and Phil Boyer were giving zoom an award I might be impressed but
not the other way around. Boy you sure impress easy when it comes to zoom .

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> No, why would a smart person make a dumb decision?
>
> And again I say, (in response to your quote at the bottom of this message)
>
> 1. Stupid people make stupid decisions (why else would they be called
> stupid people?). (According to me)
> 2. A billionaire war hero made a stupid decision. (According to you)

No, according to do you, Walton was stupid. According to me, after someone
like that getting killed in one of the Chuck Steak's airplanes, it would be
stupid for someone else to put themselves in the same situation.

But what the heck, that'll go over your head too, Scott. Can't help with
that, maybe you can go back to your school district and get a refund. :)

Next!



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>
>>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >,
>>> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>>>>someone who builds things that kill others.
>>>
>>> *NOBODY* has survived a flight in a plane you built, have they?
>>
>>Wrong again! And so another RAH gaggler goes down in flames. :)
>
> Can you prove it? Where are the flight records? Where are the
> construction
> records?

The important question is whether I care what you think about the plane.
Care to take a whack at the answer? :)

> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
> construction work, and claime I did it myself.

Neither have I. Hallucinating again?



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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Scott" > wrote in message
...
> I'm not whining...I could give a **** less.

Coulda fooled me. :)

> I just want to know what is so special about what you do that you feel I
> should get a refund from the University of Wisconsin because they didn't
> teach me what the **** the job description is for what you do.

Ask any of the 800+ employers who have posted job descriptions on
Monster.Com looking for people with the certification for which I teach.

I know, you'll come back again with your brilliiant "deduct reasoning" and
whine all over the floor about my not handholding your sorry ass. Go do your
homework, it's part of what you're supposed to learn to do in college,
remember?




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Juan Jimenez
> says...
>>
>>
>>"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> If it were so easy to get into the Hall of Fame at EAA or any other
>>> venue
>>> one
>>> would think that if zoom was all he says he is that surely by now he
>>> would
>>> have
>>> been recognized for his contributions to aviation. I don't know of one
>>> award
>>> zoom has ever gotten from anyone or any group for anything.
>>
>>Interesting you should mention that. I would surmise you haven't seen
>>anything because you're just not in the same league as he is. He gives out
>>awards, are places like AOPA Expo, with people like Phil Boyer standing
>>next
>>to him. :)
>
>
> If the AOPA and Phil Boyer were giving zoom an award I might be impressed
> but
> not the other way around. Boy you sure impress easy when it comes to zoom
> .

The difference is Jim impresses in front of the quite large crowd at the
AOPA banquet. You're lucky if you can look at yourself in the mirror every
morning and impress yourself. LOL!



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[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Juan Jimenez says...
>>The difference is Jim impresses in front of the quite large crowd at the
>AOPA banquet. You're lucky if you can look at yourself in the mirror every
>morning and impress yourself. LOL!


Yawn,Click! Shun
Chuck

[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Juan Jimenez
> says...
>>>The difference is Jim impresses in front of the quite large crowd at the
>>AOPA banquet. You're lucky if you can look at yourself in the mirror every
>>morning and impress yourself. LOL!
>
>
> Yawn,Click! Shun
> Chuck

....because that's all you can ever do. Ducks in a row, indeed. LOL!



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[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>
>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>>
>>>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>>>> In article >,
>>>> Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Try to compare to Chuck's record? LOL! I would hardly want to emulate
>>>>>someone who builds things that kill others.
>>>>
>>>> *NOBODY* has survived a flight in a plane you built, have they?
>>>
>>>Wrong again! And so another RAH gaggler goes down in flames. :)
>>
>> Can you prove it? Where are the flight records? Where are the
>> construction
>> records?
>>
>> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
>> construction work, and claime I did it myself.
>
>Neither have I.

*PROVE*IT* Show the records.

If you can't produce the records, you are, _by_your_own_standards_ a liar.

[Scott[_1_]]

Nice editing job so others can't see what you previously said that made
me say what I said. However, everyone else knows what you've said, so
it doesn't really matter anyway.



Juan Jimenez wrote:

> "Scott" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
>>No, why would a smart person make a dumb decision?
>>
>>And again I say, (in response to your quote at the bottom of this message)
>>
>>1. Stupid people make stupid decisions (why else would they be called
>>stupid people?). (According to me)
>>2. A billionaire war hero made a stupid decision. (According to you)
>
>
> No, according to do you, Walton was stupid. According to me, after someone
> like that getting killed in one of the Chuck Steak's airplanes, it would be
> stupid for someone else to put themselves in the same situation.
>
> But what the heck, that'll go over your head too, Scott. Can't help with
> that, maybe you can go back to your school district and get a refund. :)
>
> Next!
>
>
>

[red12049[_1_]]

Scott,

Best I can do is cut and paste from a post I made that quotes Juan re: John
Walton.

Begin paste:

Juan,

For whatever it may be worth, I read that whole thread. You posted this
publicly, but did not explain the manner in which it relates to whatever may
be tormenting you. I see only a 5 plus year old version of what I am seeing
here now: Everybody insulting everybody, with you seeming to be at the
center. What am I missing here?

As an aside, I have read most of your posts regaring the Walton crash.
Somehow, "war hero" and "stupid" don't seem to go together, and I am sure
the surviving family would be distressed to see him referred to in this
manner. It also trivializes all of our military service, including yours.


"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in message
.. .
>
> "ChuckSlusaczyk" > wrote in message
> ...
>> In article >, Juan Jimenez
>> says...
>>>In other words, feeding the RAH gaggle the same thing it dishes out.
>>>Can't
>>>handle it? Get out of the kitchen. :)
>>>
>>>You can ask for something you're not willing to give. Ask ChuckSteak
>>>about
>>>that, he knows exactly what I am talking about. So does Hitlaw. :)
>>
>> And just exactly is what? All I know is you lied about Frank and his
>> credentials
>
> Let me refresh your memory, boy.
>
> This is what started it. You were shown it again several times. You have
> admitted that you did in fact start it and you have refused, like a good
> little ****ant coward that you are, to apologize, and now you whine like a
> stuck pig everytime I forcefeed you your own crap with a ramrod several
> times a month.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/browse_thread/thread/209482904328b687/63be5e18d190b5c2?lnk=st&q=Slusarczyk+toadie&rnum=1#63be5e18d190b5c2
>
> Any more war heroes stupid enough to buy airplanes from you lately?
>
>
>
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>

End Paste.


"Scott" > wrote in message
.. .
> Nice editing job so others can't see what you previously said that made me
> say what I said. However, everyone else knows what you've said, so it
> doesn't really matter anyway.
>
>
>
> Juan Jimenez wrote:
>
>> "Scott" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>>
>>>No, why would a smart person make a dumb decision?
>>>
>>>And again I say, (in response to your quote at the bottom of this
>>>message)
>>>
>>>1. Stupid people make stupid decisions (why else would they be called
>>>stupid people?). (According to me)
>>>2. A billionaire war hero made a stupid decision. (According to you)
>>
>>
>> No, according to do you, Walton was stupid. According to me, after
>> someone like that getting killed in one of the Chuck Steak's airplanes,
>> it would be stupid for someone else to put themselves in the same
>> situation.
>>
>> But what the heck, that'll go over your head too, Scott. Can't help with
>> that, maybe you can go back to your school district and get a refund. :)
>>
>> Next!
>>
>>

[Mark Hickey]

(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

>Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote

>>> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
>>> construction work, and claime I did it myself.
>>
>>Neither have I.
>
>*PROVE*IT* Show the records.
>
>If you can't produce the records, you are, _by_your_own_standards_ a liar.

Juan, "standards"? LOL.

I'm with Chuck. It's (past) time to shun the guy. He's a waste of
bandwidth and enjoys the attention you're giving him.

Mark "Juan who?" Hickey

[Alphonse Le Creur[_1_]]

"Juan Jimenez" > wrote in
:

>
> "Scott" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I'm not whining...I could give a **** less.
>
> Coulda fooled me. :)
>
>> I just want to know what is so special about what you do that you
>> feel I
>> should get a refund from the University of Wisconsin because they
>> didn't teach me what the **** the job description is for what you do.
>
> Ask any of the 800+ employers who have posted job descriptions on
> Monster.Com looking for people with the certification for which I
> teach.
>
> I know, you'll come back again with your brilliiant "deduct reasoning"
> and whine all over the floor about my not handholding your sorry ass.
> Go do your homework, it's part of what you're supposed to learn to do
> in college, remember?
>

"If ya got to tell 'em who you are, you ain't"

~Gregory Peck...

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Mark Hickey says...
>
(Robert Bonomi) wrote:
>
>>Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote
>
>>>> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
>>>> construction work, and claime I did it myself.
>>>
>>>Neither have I.
>>
>>*PROVE*IT* Show the records.
>>
>>If you can't produce the records, you are, _by_your_own_standards_ a liar.
>
>Juan, "standards"? LOL.
>
>I'm with Chuck. It's (past) time to shun the guy. He's a waste of
>bandwidth and enjoys the attention you're giving him.

It's been obvious to me for a long time and now to most people that jaun is and
always has been zooms "toady". He knows it and we know it so any thing he has
to say is worthless and his only goal here is to be contrary.You guys have taken
him to task and proved him a hypocrite over and over again.Yet he claims he
right.

Why someone would go so far out of his way to make of fool of himself is beyond
me but if that was his goal he's more then successful.Frankly he bores me, so
I'm not playing his game anymore.I'm sure he'll post a flurry of insults and
rants after I post this but I won't answer him back. He's simply not qualified
or competient enough to be taken seriously. Some day he'll smart off to the
wrong guy and get his ass whooped I only hope I'm around to watch LOL!!
I will however post from time to time when zoom does something that needs
reporting :-)Meanwhile back to other topics.

Chuckj S RAH-14/1 ret











>
>Mark "Juan who?" Hickey

[Barnyard BOb]

>>Juan, "standards"? LOL.
>>
>>I'm with Chuck. It's (past) time to shun the guy. He's a waste of
>>bandwidth and enjoys the attention you're giving him.
>
>It's been obvious to me for a long time and now to most people that jaun is and
>always has been zooms "toady". He knows it and we know it so any thing he has
>to say is worthless and his only goal here is to be contrary.You guys have taken
>him to task and proved him a hypocrite over and over again.Yet he claims he
>right.
>
>Why someone would go so far out of his way to make of fool of himself is beyond
>me but if that was his goal he's more then successful.Frankly he bores me, so
>I'm not playing his game anymore.I'm sure he'll post a flurry of insults and
>rants after I post this but I won't answer him back. He's simply not qualified
>or competient enough to be taken seriously. Some day he'll smart off to the
>wrong guy and get his ass whooped I only hope I'm around to watch LOL!!
>I will however post from time to time when zoom does something that needs
>reporting :-)Meanwhile back to other topics.
>
>Chuckj S RAH-14/1 ret
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Nefoo Chuck,

This is your second recent post concerning shunning Zoom's toady.
If you keep this up..... I'll have to take you seriously! :-)

Unka' BOb

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Barnyard BOb says...
>
>
>
>>>Juan, "standards"? LOL.
>>>
>>>I'm with Chuck. It's (past) time to shun the guy. He's a waste of
>>>bandwidth and enjoys the attention you're giving him.
>>
>>It's been obvious to me for a long time and now to most people that jaun is and
>>always has been zooms "toady". He knows it and we know it so any thing he has
>>to say is worthless and his only goal here is to be contrary.You guys have taken
>>him to task and proved him a hypocrite over and over again.Yet he claims he
>>right.
>>
>>Why someone would go so far out of his way to make of fool of himself is beyond
>>me but if that was his goal he's more then successful.Frankly he bores me, so
>>I'm not playing his game anymore.I'm sure he'll post a flurry of insults and
>>rants after I post this but I won't answer him back. He's simply not qualified
>>or competient enough to be taken seriously. Some day he'll smart off to the
>>wrong guy and get his ass whooped I only hope I'm around to watch LOL!!
>>I will however post from time to time when zoom does something that needs
>>reporting :-)Meanwhile back to other topics.
>>
>>Chuckj S RAH-14/1 ret
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>Nefoo Chuck,
>
>This is your second recent post concerning shunning Zoom's toady.
>If you keep this up..... I'll have to take you seriously! :-)
>
>Unka' BOb

Hey Unk

The first shun was directed to j*** This one was a comment directed to someone
else :-) If j*** answers he will be ignored ...I promise...I really mean it
,honest, cross my heart,etc etc..

Going to Sun n Fun?

Nefoo Chuck
>

[Anthony W]

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

> Nefoo Chuck

What's Nefoo mean?

Tony

[Ron Wanttaja]

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:58:05 GMT, Anthony W > wrote:

>ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
>
>> Nefoo Chuck
>
>What's Nefoo mean?

It's how Unka BOb says "Nephew" when his teeth are out, soaking in a glass....

Ron Wanttaja

[Anthony W]

wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:58:05 GMT, Anthony W > wrote:
>
>> ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
>>
>>> Nefoo Chuck
>> What's Nefoo mean?
>
> It's how Unka BOb says "Nephew" when his teeth are out, soaking in a glass....
>
> Ron Wanttaja

Aw, I see now... ;o)

Tony

[Barnyard BOb]

>>> ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nefoo Chuck
>>> What's Nefoo mean?
>>
>> It's how Unka BOb says "Nephew" when his teeth are out, soaking in a glass....
>>
>> Ron Wanttaja
>
>Aw, I see now... ;o)
>
>Tony
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Tony,

Ron has it half right.

The rest of the story.....

Posted on the wall of my dentist's office:
BRUSH ONLY THE TEETH YOU WANT TO KEEP.

I now do both....
at the same time. ;-)

Gotta' go now.
It's almost 4 AM.
Time to wake up the rooster.


- Barnyard BOb -

The more people I meet,
the more I love my dog
and George Carlin humor.

[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>>> Can you prove it? Where are the flight records? Where are the
>>> construction
>>> records?
>>>
>>> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
>>> construction work, and claime I did it myself.
>>
>>Neither have I.
>
> *PROVE*IT* Show the records.
>
> If you can't produce the records, you are, _by_your_own_standards_ a liar.

You think I'm lying, you prove it, pinhead. I could care less what a putz
like you thinks about me. Next!




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[Juan Jimenez[_1_]]

"ChuckSlusarczyk" > wrote in message
...
>
> It's been obvious to me for a long time and now to most people that jaun
> is and
> always has been zooms "toady".

Broken record. Trying to impress yourself again? LOL! :) All bark, no bite,
your entire gaggle are all that way, even Chicken**** Hitlaw, who never
showed up at the airport in Singapore. I had a friend meet me there, and he
even brought an R/C BD-5 to make sure anyone who was looking for me knew who
I was. Jim Campbell had a good laugh over that one, he had predicted
Chiken**** Hitlaw would not show, and he was right, again. Ducks in a row
indeed! :)



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[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>
>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Can you prove it? Where are the flight records? Where are the
>>>> construction
>>>> records?
>>>>
>>>> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
>>>> construction work, and claime I did it myself.
>>>
>>>Neither have I.
>>
>> *PROVE*IT* Show the records.
>>
>> If you can't produce the records, you are, _by_your_own_standards_ a liar.
>
>You think I'm lying, you prove it, pinhead. I could care less what a putz
>like you thinks about me. Next!

When _you_ demand proof of something from others, *YOU* brand them as a
liar if they don't provide the proof.

Strange that you cannot meet the standards you demand of others, isn't it?

Where is _your_ credibility?

Is it true you took credit for somebody elses' work?

Where are the construction records?

Where are the flight records?

Is it true that you won't provide the proof because you DON'T HAVE IT?

In your words, "it's all about credibility". Where is _yours_?

[ChuckSlusarczyk]

In article >, Robert Bonomi says...
>
>In article >,
>Juan Jimenez > wrote:
>>
>>"Robert Bonomi" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Can you prove it? Where are the flight records? Where are the
>>>>> construction
>>>>> records?
>>>>>
>>>>> At least I've never resorted to hiring somebody else to do the actual
>>>>> construction work, and claime I did it myself.
>>>>
>>>>Neither have I.
>>>
>>> *PROVE*IT* Show the records.
>>>
>>> If you can't produce the records, you are, _by_your_own_standards_ a liar.
>>
>>You think I'm lying, you prove it, pinhead. I could care less what a putz
>>like you thinks about me. Next!
>
>When _you_ demand proof of something from others, *YOU* brand them as a
>liar if they don't provide the proof.
>
>Strange that you cannot meet the standards you demand of others, isn't it?
>
>Where is _your_ credibility?
>
>Is it true you took credit for somebody elses' work?
>
>Where are the construction records?
>
>Where are the flight records?
>
>Is it true that you won't provide the proof because you DON'T HAVE IT?
>
>In your words, "it's all about credibility". Where is _yours_?

Hi Bob
A long time ago I said " credibility it was always about credibility' when
defining my problems with zoom.Later when j*** came along as zooms toady I used
it on him. Now j*** pretends he's the first that came up with the phrase. But
your absolutly correct he does take credit for other peoples work including
phrases LOL!!!

See ya

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret