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Lou
January 14th 07, 07:22 PM
Well, here I go again, thinking instead of doing.
My plane call for control sticks just like 99% of the homebuilts out
there. But I've been considering using a control yoke (maybe cessna 150
modified) instead. To get from the yoke controls
to the push/pull tubes in the wing I may have to use Bowden cables. I
may be wrong on the name, but basicly similar to bicycle brake cables.
Has anyone used these kind of cables successfuly?
Or has anyone incorporated a control yoke instead of control sticks?
Lou
BobR
January 14th 07, 08:39 PM
Lou,
Check out the following link to my web site for some photos of an
outstanding yoke system for a homebuilt. If you are interested, I can
get you into contact with the builder.
http://www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com/kisbuild/AlRosa-Yoke-Controls.html
It is an outstanding design that uses no cables and no chains, only
push rods.
Bob
Lou wrote:
> Well, here I go again, thinking instead of doing.
> My plane call for control sticks just like 99% of the homebuilts out
> there. But I've been considering using a control yoke (maybe cessna 150
> modified) instead. To get from the yoke controls
> to the push/pull tubes in the wing I may have to use Bowden cables. I
> may be wrong on the name, but basicly similar to bicycle brake cables.
> Has anyone used these kind of cables successfuly?
> Or has anyone incorporated a control yoke instead of control sticks?
> Lou
Lou
January 14th 07, 09:22 PM
Well, for those who are curious, I've never flown with a stick and your
right, I probebly should before I make a choice here.
Bob, that is a fantanstic yoke, I'm suprised it isn't in a catalogue
somewhere.
Sure put me in contact with the owner.
Thanks
Lou
Orval Fairbairn
January 14th 07, 09:42 PM
In article . com>,
"Lou" > wrote:
> Well, for those who are curious, I've never flown with a stick and your
> right, I probebly should before I make a choice here.
> Bob, that is a fantanstic yoke, I'm suprised it isn't in a catalogue
> somewhere.
> Sure put me in contact with the owner.
> Thanks
> Lou
Fly a stick first! It gives you much better feel and control than a yoke.
BobR
January 14th 07, 11:12 PM
Lou,
Sent information via private email, let me know if you didn't receive.
Bob
Lou wrote:
> Well, for those who are curious, I've never flown with a stick and your
> right, I probebly should before I make a choice here.
> Bob, that is a fantanstic yoke, I'm suprised it isn't in a catalogue
> somewhere.
> Sure put me in contact with the owner.
> Thanks
> Lou
Dan[_2_]
January 15th 07, 12:52 AM
Richard Riley wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2007 11:22:18 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:
>
>> Well, here I go again, thinking instead of doing.
>> My plane call for control sticks just like 99% of the homebuilts out
>> there. But I've been considering using a control yoke (maybe cessna 150
>> modified) instead. To get from the yoke controls
>> to the push/pull tubes in the wing I may have to use Bowden cables. I
>> may be wrong on the name, but basicly similar to bicycle brake cables.
>> Has anyone used these kind of cables successfuly?
>> Or has anyone incorporated a control yoke instead of control sticks?
>
> Check Velocity. They use push-pull cables for their ailerons, and
> went from side sticks to yolks in their "SUV" model.
Just egging him on?
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Lou
January 15th 07, 01:21 AM
Thanks Bob,
I got it.
Lou
Ed Sullivan
January 15th 07, 01:53 AM
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:52:40 -0600, Dan > wrote:
>Richard Riley wrote:
>> On 14 Jan 2007 11:22:18 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:
>>
>>> Well, here I go again, thinking instead of doing.
>>> My plane call for control sticks just like 99% of the homebuilts out
>>> there. But I've been considering using a control yoke (maybe cessna 150
>>> modified) instead. To get from the yoke controls
>>> to the push/pull tubes in the wing I may have to use Bowden cables. I
>>> may be wrong on the name, but basicly similar to bicycle brake cables.
>>> Has anyone used these kind of cables successfuly?
>>> Or has anyone incorporated a control yoke instead of control sticks?
>>
>> Check Velocity. They use push-pull cables for their ailerons, and
>> went from side sticks to yolks in their "SUV" model.
>
>Just egging him on?
>
>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
Should avoid those, too high in Cholesterol
Ed The Curmudge
abripl
January 15th 07, 04:31 AM
I adapted cessna 150 yokes for my homebuilt. Check it out at
http://www.abri.com/sq2000
Reasons were was entry consideration and comfort.
J.Kahn
January 15th 07, 07:15 PM
Richard Riley wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2007 11:22:18 -0800, "Lou" > wrote:
>
>> Well, here I go again, thinking instead of doing.
>> My plane call for control sticks just like 99% of the homebuilts out
>> there. But I've been considering using a control yoke (maybe cessna 150
>> modified) instead. To get from the yoke controls
>> to the push/pull tubes in the wing I may have to use Bowden cables. I
>> may be wrong on the name, but basicly similar to bicycle brake cables.
>> Has anyone used these kind of cables successfuly?
>> Or has anyone incorporated a control yoke instead of control sticks?
>
> Check Velocity. They use push-pull cables for their ailerons, and
> went from side sticks to yolks in their "SUV" model.
Also the Jabiru uses them for ailerons. They are generally called
Teleflex cables. Jets use very looooooooong ones for power controls.
In the Jabiru, they seem to make the controls feel somewhat stiffer than
cable/pulleys or push pull rods.
I would worry about undetected degradation and failure in a cable that
was completely enclosed, but on the other hand the fact that you can set
up your control arrangement with a separate cable for each side gives
some redundancy because one can break but you still have control of one
aileron.
John
Blueskies
January 16th 07, 11:34 PM
"BobR" > wrote in message ups.com...
: Lou,
:
: Check out the following link to my web site for some photos of an
: outstanding yoke system for a homebuilt. If you are interested, I can
: get you into contact with the builder.
:
: http://www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com/kisbuild/AlRosa-Yoke-Controls.html
:
: It is an outstanding design that uses no cables and no chains, only
: push rods.
:
: Bob
:
:
Looks heavy...
Bruce A. Frank
January 17th 07, 10:38 PM
I have seen a complete yoke set up from a TriPacer installed in a
Christavia. It appeared to be straight forward and less difficult than dual
sticks.
Lou wrote:
> Well, here I go again, thinking instead of doing.
> My plane call for control sticks just like 99% of the homebuilts out
> there. But I've been considering using a control yoke (maybe cessna 150
> modified) instead. To get from the yoke controls
> to the push/pull tubes in the wing I may have to use Bowden cables. I
> may be wrong on the name, but basicly similar to bicycle brake cables.
> Has anyone used these kind of cables successfuly?
> Or has anyone incorporated a control yoke instead of control sticks?
> Lou
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Lou
January 17th 07, 11:41 PM
On Jan 17, 4:38 pm, "Bruce A. Frank" > wrote:
> I have seen a complete yoke set up from a TriPacer installed in a
> Christavia. It appeared to be straight forward and less difficult than dual
> sticks.
>
Not only does it appear straight forward, it honestly looks like
there is less metal=less weight.
Lou
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