A plug for my home town.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
in school you might want to think about moving here.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

[Nathan Young]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:41:48 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:

>
>El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
>in school you might want to think about moving here.
>
>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

Wow, that's pretty incredible!

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Nathan Young wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:41:48 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
> <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you
>> have kids in school you might want to think about moving here.
>>
>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-
>> 0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>
> Wow, that's pretty incredible!


Yes, it really is. As someone with a 9th grade student in the school I'm
happy as a clam. There really has been time for it to sink in around town
the amazing affect this could have here.

So if anyone knows of any businesses that are looking for a place to move to
or to set up shop send me a note.

[Bill Denton]

When did you live in El Dorado?



"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>
> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
> in school you might want to think about moving here.
>
>
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>
>

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Bill Denton wrote:
> When did you live in El Dorado?
>
>
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you
>> have kids in school you might want to think about moving here.
>>
>>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-
> 0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

I live there now. I graduated high school in '81

[Bill Denton]

I worked at KDMS in 1973-74 back when they were a Top 40 station...



"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
> Bill Denton wrote:
> > When did you live in El Dorado?
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you
> >> have kids in school you might want to think about moving here.
> >>
> >>
> > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-
> > 0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>
> I live there now. I graduated high school in '81
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
> in school you might want to think about moving here.

Damn! Got any hotels near your airport that need renovation?

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ross]

Bill Denton wrote:
> I worked at KDMS in 1973-74 back when they were a Top 40 station...
>
>
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Bill Denton wrote:
>>
>>>When did you live in El Dorado?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you
>>>>have kids in school you might want to think about moving here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-
>>>0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>>
>>I live there now. I graduated high school in '81
>>
>>
>
>
>
Was Sonny West the station owner/manager? My father owned KBOK in Malvern.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

[Bill Denton]

Yep...Sonny West owned it. It was managed by his then son-in-law Paul
Meacham.



"Ross" > wrote in message
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> Bill Denton wrote:
> > I worked at KDMS in 1973-74 back when they were a Top 40 station...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Bill Denton wrote:
> >>
> >>>When did you live in El Dorado?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>>El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you
> >>>>have kids in school you might want to think about moving here.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-
> >>>0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
> >>
> >>I live there now. I graduated high school in '81
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> Was Sonny West the station owner/manager? My father owned KBOK in Malvern.
>
> --
>
> Regards, Ross
> C-172F 180HP
> KSWI

[Don Tuite]

These things can be a mixed blessing.

http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3002

Don

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Bill Denton wrote:
> I worked at KDMS in 1973-74 back when they were a Top 40 station...
>
>
>

It's a small world isn't it. KDMS/KLBQ are now clients of mine.

I worked at the guys across town, KELD in 78-79.

KDMS is gospel now and KLBQ is top 40.

The guys across town now have 4 or 5 stations operating and they are
everything Rock, two Country, Talk and Urban.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you
>> have kids in school you might want to think about moving here.
>
> Damn! Got any hotels near your airport that need renovation?
>
> ;-)

No but feel free to come build one. We will need it.

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Don Tuite wrote:
> These things can be a mixed blessing.
>
> http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3002
>
> Don

Well this one is being set up in a way that the donor won't have any say now
that the endowment is made. The school board thought about just this sort of
thing.

[Don Tuite]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:32:11 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:

>Don Tuite wrote:
>> These things can be a mixed blessing.
>>
>> http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3002
>>
>> Don
>
>Well this one is being set up in a way that the donor won't have any say now
>that the endowment is made. The school board thought about just this sort of
>thing.
>
Good, but I was thinking more about the way the scholarship bequest
changed Philomath, which was once a little mill town outside another
little town that was the site of the state ag college.

There were other, more important factors behind the change in the
town's character, and the change in itself may be a good thing. But
many people did make the bequest one of the factors that decided them
on Philomath, and that led to more growth and greater mainstreaming
than some of the old-timers expected.

Be careful what you wish for.

Does Murphys Oil also make the soap of the same name?

Don

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Don Tuite wrote:
> Does Murphys Oil also make the soap of the same name?
>
> Don

No relation to the soap. Oil refining, exploration and sales.

And we would really like to see what a little unrestrained growth was like.
El Dorado has lost over 10000 in population over the last 20 years and it
has been close to impossible to recruit new industry to the area.

And just so there is some aviation content in this thread I started.

We have two airports owned by the city and with the exception of the
occasional Murphy Jet it isn't unusual to not hear an airplane at either one
on the weekend.

[Don Tuite]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:36:46 -0600, "Gig 601XL Builder"
<wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:

>Don Tuite wrote:
>> Does Murphys Oil also make the soap of the same name?
>>
>> Don
>
>No relation to the soap. Oil refining, exploration and sales.
>
>And we would really like to see what a little unrestrained growth was like.
>El Dorado has lost over 10000 in population over the last 20 years and it
>has been close to impossible to recruit new industry to the area.
>
>And just so there is some aviation content in this thread I started.
>
>We have two airports owned by the city and with the exception of the
>occasional Murphy Jet it isn't unusual to not hear an airplane at either one
>on the weekend.
>
Oh. " Hasn't been the same since the Frizzell boys left." ;o)

I understand your hope. Good luck.

Don

[Matt Whiting]

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
> in school you might want to think about moving here.
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>
>

It is nice to see a company do something worthwhile like that with all
of the money they are stealing from us at the gas pump. Kudos to Murphy
Oil.


Matt

[Jay Honeck]

> We have two airports owned by the city and with the exception of the
> occasional Murphy Jet it isn't unusual to not hear an airplane at either one
> on the weekend.

Damn it, that sounds like a lot of airports across the country
nowadays...

Around here, the hope is that ethanol (which is currently driving the
price of corn to record highs) will power the farm economy back into
good times. I'll tell you what, it would be nice to see some wealthy
farmers buying some airplanes around here...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Matt Whiting]

Don Tuite wrote:

> These things can be a mixed blessing.
>
> http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3002

Yes, biting the hand that feeds you can have consequences if you aren't
willing to feed yourself.

Matt

[Don Tuite]

On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:13:23 GMT, Matt Whiting >
wrote:

>Don Tuite wrote:
>
>> These things can be a mixed blessing.
>>
>> http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3002
>
>Yes, biting the hand that feeds you can have consequences if you aren't
>willing to feed yourself.
>
All in how you read the tealeaves, Matt. I was thinking "No good deed
goes unpunished."

Don

[Matt Whiting]

Don Tuite wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 22:13:23 GMT, Matt Whiting >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Don Tuite wrote:
>>
>>
>>>These things can be a mixed blessing.
>>>
>>>http://www.wweek.com/story.php?story=3002
>>
>>Yes, biting the hand that feeds you can have consequences if you aren't
>>willing to feed yourself.
>>
>
> All in how you read the tealeaves, Matt. I was thinking "No good deed
> goes unpunished."

Yes, I had to laugh when the article essentially suggested that the
timber company should be proud that its education support had so
"enlightened" the community that they no longer thought the timber
industry was something that should be supported.

Matt

[d&tm]

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
...
>
> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
> in school you might want to think about moving here.
>
>
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033
..story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>
That is a fantastic guesture from a private company. but one has to wonder
why a country so wealthy needs to rely on private generosity to educate its
young. When I went to Uni 25 years ago here in Oz it was free to all. Later
govts have since made it a pay later system ( you pay extra income tax only
when you have a job above x$ year unitl you pay back the fees that
represent about 20% of the real cost).Current govt is doing their damdest to
bring back pay before you go fees. Going backwards in my opinion. Of course
one big difference here as that pretty much all Universities are govt
owned.
terry
ppl downunder

[John Theune]

d&tm wrote:
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have kids
>> in school you might want to think about moving here.
>>
>>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033
> .story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
> That is a fantastic guesture from a private company. but one has to wonder
> why a country so wealthy needs to rely on private generosity to educate its
> young. When I went to Uni 25 years ago here in Oz it was free to all. Later
> govts have since made it a pay later system ( you pay extra income tax only
> when you have a job above x$ year unitl you pay back the fees that
> represent about 20% of the real cost).Current govt is doing their damdest to
> bring back pay before you go fees. Going backwards in my opinion. Of course
> one big difference here as that pretty much all Universities are govt
> owned.
> terry
> ppl downunder
>
>
Could it be that the current system in the US has created the greatest
university system in the world and people from all over the world come
here to learn? There are a tremendous amount of scholarships available
and if your smart enough your not likely to be unable to go to college.
Any one can go to school here, not just those who are ranked highly
on standard tests. You may not be able to attend Harvard but you can go
to school somewhere. Is this true in OZ?

[d&tm]

"John Theune" > wrote in message
news:aK8uh.34752$gS1.14487@trndny01...
> d&tm wrote:
> > "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> > ...
> >> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have
kids
> >> in school you might want to think about moving here.
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033
> > .story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
> > That is a fantastic guesture from a private company. but one has to
wonder
> > why a country so wealthy needs to rely on private generosity to educate
its
> > young. When I went to Uni 25 years ago here in Oz it was free to all.
Later
> > govts have since made it a pay later system ( you pay extra income tax
only
> > when you have a job above x$ year unitl you pay back the fees that
> > represent about 20% of the real cost).Current govt is doing their
damdest to
> > bring back pay before you go fees. Going backwards in my opinion. Of
course
> > one big difference here as that pretty much all Universities are govt
> > owned.
> > terry
> > ppl downunder
> >
> >
> Could it be that the current system in the US has created the greatest
> university system in the world and people from all over the world come
> here to learn? There are a tremendous amount of scholarships available
> and if your smart enough your not likely to be unable to go to college.
> Any one can go to school here, not just those who are ranked highly
> on standard tests. You may not be able to attend Harvard but you can go
> to school somewhere. Is this true in OZ?

You certainly have some great universities in terms of research output,
Nobel prize winners, etc but the real measure of a University system, in
my humble opinion should primarily be based on the quality of its
undergraduate teaching and the accessibility to ordinary people with the
appropriate ability. Can anyone attend a school in Oz? I assume you mean
college or University, the answer is generally no because we usually have a
quota for each course with an academic standard based on supply and demand,
but it is heading in the direction of the US where anyone with the money
will be able to get in regardless of their aptitude. The end result I think
is that you end up with lower standards and degree qualified hamburger
flippers. Next thing we will be having scholarships for illiterate football
players and then I'll know our system has been stuffed
Anyways I didnt really want to get into a political debate, this is
rec.aviation afterall.
terry

[Matt Barrow]

"d&tm" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have
>> kids
>> in school you might want to think about moving here.
>>
>>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033
> .story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
>>
> That is a fantastic guesture from a private company. but one has to wonder
> why a country so wealthy needs to rely on private generosity to educate
> its
> young. When I went to Uni 25 years ago here in Oz it was free to all.

It wasn't free, fellow.

It's called parasitism.

[Matt Barrow]

"John Theune" > wrote in message
news:aK8uh.34752$gS1.14487@trndny01...
> d&tm wrote:

>>
> Could it be that the current system in the US has created the greatest
> university system in the world and people from all over the world come
> here to learn?

The same university system that cranks out graduates that still can't
read...?

[d&tm]

"Matt Barrow" > wrote in message
...
>
> "d&tm" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >> El Dorado Arkansas got some incredible news yesterday. So if you have
> >> kids
> >> in school you might want to think about moving here.
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0701230165jan23,1,1659033
> > .story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
> >>
> > That is a fantastic guesture from a private company. but one has to
wonder
> > why a country so wealthy needs to rely on private generosity to educate
> > its
> > young. When I went to Uni 25 years ago here in Oz it was free to all.
>
> It wasn't free, fellow.
>
> It's called parasitism.
>
Not at all. A civilised society needs educated people in all fields. It
cant function without doctors , teachers engineers etc etc. You educate
people and they go on to make important contributions to society and of
course pay tax. It just happens that some jobs require University training.
You know it is funny that no one ever argues about the taxpayer footing the
bill for someone to go to the police academy to be trained or to ( back to
aviation) an airforce pilot to be trained to fly but people expect a teacher
to pay for his own training which happens to be in University ( and then
work for peanuts doing an essential role for the community after that).
Where is the logic there? It certainly is parasitism ( by society not the
teacher ). A smart society will fill its Universities with smart people,
not rich people.
A previous poster commented about the US system pumping out graduates that
cant read.
I note one George Dubbya is a graduate of both Yale and Harvard.... say no
more.
terry