Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean help before year's end

[AirRaid Mach 2.5[_1_]]

Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph

January 24, 2007, 1:52 PM (GMT+02:00)
North Korea's Yongbyon reactor



The British paper, quoting a senior European source, reports that North
Korea is helping Iran prepare an underground nuclear test similar to
the one Pyongyang carried out last October 9. In his State of the Union
speech Wednesday, Jan. 23, US president George Bush said: "The United
Nations has imposed sanctions on Iran and made it clear that the world
will not allow ... Tehran to acquire nuclear weapons."

Bush did not explain what his intentions were. Iran has faced no
threats of military action to thwart its acquisition of nuclear weapons
except in veiled suggestions by the US and Israel.

On Sept 13, DEBKAfile revealed exclusively that 12 days before the
North Korean test, an Iranian military delegation was admitted to the
Yongbyon reactor (picture) and Punggye-ri testing site in northeast
North Korea. They were allowed to witness some of North Korea's
preparations for its first nuclear test with a view to sharing part of
its knowledge with Iran. It was suspected in Washington and Jerusalem
then that the North Koreans would actively help Iran get ready for its
first underground nuclear test.

DEBKAfile's military sources report the word going around Western
intelligence in recent weeks is that Tehran has already managed mock
tests by computer simulations. This would place a real test only months
away and mean that a breakthrough on the Iranian nuclear program has
been accelerated to a much earlier date than anticipated by the US and
Israel.

Ahead of the Bush speech of Wednesday, Iran took two steps: The
Revolutionary Guards launched a three-day exercise to test its
short-range surface missiles and it barred 38 inspectors of the
International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna from looking over its
nuclear sites. Tehran is not severing its ties with the nuclear
watchdog, a spokesman explained later.

European nuclear and military experts estimate that no more than 12
months would separate an underground test from the manufacture of an
operational half-kiloton bomb. This means that an Iran may well have
acquired the ability to produce a nuclear bomb by the end of 2008.

http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=3761

[Ian MacLure]

"AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
oups.com:

> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph

If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.

IBM

[William Black[_1_]]

"Ian MacLure" > wrote in message
...
> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
> oups.com:
>
>> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
>> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph
>
> If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
> above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.

And the Sunday Times is reporting that half the general officers in the US
forces will promptly resign if the US does any such thing.

Indeed reports seem to suggest that the US is incapable of doing anything
much about Iran.

Well, except giving security guarantees, restarting full relations and
dishing out a quarter of a million student visas, which would probably be a
sight more devastating to the regime there than any sudden bangs.

--


William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
Barbeques on fire by chalets past the headland
I've watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off Newborough
All this will pass like ice-cream on the beach
Time for tea

[Ian MacLure]

"William Black" > wrote in
:

> "Ian MacLure" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
>> oups.com:
>>
>>> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
>>> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph
>>
>> If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
>> above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.
>
> And the Sunday Times is reporting that half the general officers in the
> US forces will promptly resign if the US does any such thing.

Sunday Time, New York Times. Both nests of treasonous swine.

> Indeed reports seem to suggest that the US is incapable of doing
> anything much about Iran.

Wishful thinking.

IBM

[Defendario]

William Black wrote:
> "Ian MacLure" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
>> oups.com:
>>
>>> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
>>> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph
>> If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
>> above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.
>
> And the Sunday Times is reporting that half the general officers in the US
> forces will promptly resign if the US does any such thing.
>

As well they should.

> Indeed reports seem to suggest that the US is incapable of doing anything
> much about Iran.
>

Attacking Iran will be the end of our way of life, and the end of IsReeL

> Well, except giving security guarantees, restarting full relations and
> dishing out a quarter of a million student visas, which would probably be a
> sight more devastating to the regime there than any sudden bangs.
>

You know, that's exactly right.

[Defendario]

Ian MacLure wrote:
> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
> oups.com:
>
>> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
>> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph
>
> If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
> above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.
>

You don't suppose that the Pakis, Indians and Chinamen downwind will be
thrilled, do you?

> IBM
>
>

[Ian MacLure]

Defendario > wrote in
:

> Ian MacLure wrote:
>> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
>> oups.com:
>>
>>> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
>>> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph
>>
>> If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
>> above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.
>>
>
> You don't suppose that the Pakis, Indians and Chinamen downwind will be
> thrilled, do you?

Probably not but thats their problem...

IBM

[Defendario]

Ian MacLure wrote:
> Defendario > wrote in
> :
>
>> Ian MacLure wrote:
>>> "AirRaid Mach 2.5" > wrote in
>>> oups.com:
>>>
>>>> Iran is preparing for an underground nuclear test with North Korean
>>>> help before year's end - London Daily Telegraph
>>> If they don't mind their P's and Q's they'll be getting multiple
>>> above ground nuke tests where they least expect them.
>>>
>> You don't suppose that the Pakis, Indians and Chinamen downwind will be
>> thrilled, do you?
>
> Probably not but thats their problem...
>

So you don't think being downwind of a devastated nuclear enrichment
facility is a problem? You must be a Reichtard...

> IBM
>

[Ian MacLure]

Defendario > wrote in
:

[snip]

> So you don't think being downwind of a devastated nuclear enrichment
> facility is a problem? You must be a Reichtard...

I see you didn't get any gold stars in Reading Comprehension.
Its a problem of course but for the Pakistanis, Indians,
and Chinese. And-uh you forgot Afghanistan moron.

IBM

[Defendario]

Ian MacLure wrote:
> Defendario > wrote in
> :
>
> [snip]
>
>> So you don't think being downwind of a devastated nuclear enrichment
>> facility is a problem? You must be a Reichtard...
>
> I see you didn't get any gold stars in Reading Comprehension.
> Its a problem of course but for the Pakistanis, Indians,
> and Chinese.

All of those are nuclear powers. Add Russia, with lots of investment in
Iran, to that mix.

> And-uh you forgot Afghanistan moron.

The troops in Afghanistan will likewise be in a precarious position.

I expect them to be all lost, along with the entire MNF in Iraq.


Stalingrad on the Tigris, billybob. You heard it here first.

>
> IBM
>

[Ian MacLure]

Defendario > wrote in
:

> Ian MacLure wrote:
>> Defendario > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> So you don't think being downwind of a devastated nuclear enrichment
>>> facility is a problem? You must be a Reichtard...
>>
>> I see you didn't get any gold stars in Reading Comprehension.
>> Its a problem of course but for the Pakistanis, Indians,
>> and Chinese.
>
> All of those are nuclear powers. Add Russia, with lots of investment in
> Iran, to that mix.

Well you'd think they'd have a problem with a bunch of nuclear
armed loons lurking on their southern borders and want to do
something about it while the nuclear armed part was merely
potential.


>> And-uh you forgot Afghanistan moron.
>
> The troops in Afghanistan will likewise be in a precarious position.

Only if we wait. If the Iranian infrastructure is taken down
soon the damage will be contained.

> I expect them to be all lost, along with the entire MNF in Iraq.

Of course you do. You also expect free beer, Santa Claus,
and a Worker's Paradise. More fool you.

> Stalingrad on the Tigris, billybob. You heard it here first.

Well no, Dien Bien Phu on the Euphrates was the scenario
you looneys were promoting first time through.
So I'll say to you what I said to them....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
Stop it! Yer killin' me.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Oh lord, yer funny......

IBM

[Louie B]

A 25,000 Pd. Bunker Buster Bomb will collapse any underground rooms as
much as a mile down .

[®i©ardo]

Louie B wrote:
> A 25,000 Pd. Bunker Buster Bomb will collapse any underground rooms as
> much as a mile down .
>
Provided it is dropped in the right place!
--
Moving things in still pictures!

[Tex Houston]

"Juergen Nieveler" > wrote in message
. ..
> (Louie B) wrote:
>
>> A 25,000 Pd. Bunker Buster Bomb will collapse any underground rooms as
>> much as a mile down .
>
> Care to test it against the defunct NORAD bunker?

Defunct is not the word...people go to work there every day. I live within
sight of it.

Tex

[Tex Houston]

"Juergen Nieveler" > wrote in message
. ..
> "Tex Houston" > wrote:
>
>>> Care to test it against the defunct NORAD bunker?
>>
>> Defunct is not the word...people go to work there every day. I live
>> within sight of it.
>
> Is it still actively used, or are they only caretakers?
>
> I had heard that it was mothballed...
>
>
> Juergen Nieveler


You heard a proposal to move some functions to Peterson AFB. Proposal is
the word as no money is available to implement it.

Tex Houston

[Ian MacLure]

Juergen Nieveler > wrote in
:

> (Louie B) wrote:
>
>> A 25,000 Pd. Bunker Buster Bomb will collapse any underground rooms as
>> much as a mile down .
>
> Care to test it against the defunct NORAD bunker? I'd bet that there

Its in use for making Sci Fi television shows.

> ARE underground rooms that will happily withstand your magic "Bunker
> Buster"... and Iran has had more than enough time to build bunkers.

Question is, how well....

> Of course, even the USAF (who unlike the USN, which would be
> appropriate for this group) HAS the planes to deliver such a weapon,
> wouldn't be silly enough to believe in such a miracle weapon, seeing
> how difficult it turned out to be to destroy Tora Bora.

Tora Bora is a region.
Whatever targets are/were in Tora Bora are/were more a problem in
target acquisition that weapons effect.
In short, choose a cave, it can be destroyed.

IBM

[Ian MacLure]

Juergen Nieveler > wrote in
:

> "Tex Houston" > wrote:
>
>>> Care to test it against the defunct NORAD bunker?
>>
>> Defunct is not the word...people go to work there every day. I live
>> within sight of it.
>
> Is it still actively used, or are they only caretakers?
>
> I had heard that it was mothballed...

Most operations have moved to an above ground facility.
Not sure what still goes on there although there are
rumo(u)rs of strange lights in the sky.

IBM