Tonight on NOVA....

[john smith]

Check your local PBS listings

8PM the SwissAir crash in Canada

9PM the Tenerife (sic) 747 collision

[Jay Honeck]

> 8PM the SwissAir crash in Canada
> 9PM the Tenerife (sic) 747 collision

Dang, and it's Movie Night at the inn. We're showing "Airport",
flying the Kiwi, and doing some hangar flying...

Someone's gotta tape it for me!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John Theune]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>> 8PM the SwissAir crash in Canada
>> 9PM the Tenerife (sic) 747 collision
>
> Dang, and it's Movie Night at the inn. We're showing "Airport",
> flying the Kiwi, and doing some hangar flying...
>
> Someone's gotta tape it for me!
>
> ;-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>
Ya gotta get a TIVO!

[Larry Dighera]

On 30 Jan 2007 11:27:18 -0800, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in . com>:

>Someone's gotta tape it for me!

You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR?
It's time to join the 21st century. :-)

[Bob Fry]

>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:

LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
LD> join the 21st century. :-)

You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.
--
I once met an assassin who's nickname was fart. I ask him why he has
this nickname and he tells me it's because he's silent but deadly.
- Jack Handey

[Mike Schumann]

Like what?

Mike Schumann

"Bob Fry" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:
>
> LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
> LD> join the 21st century. :-)
>
> You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
> or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.
> --
> I once met an assassin who's nickname was fart. I ask him why he has
> this nickname and he tells me it's because he's silent but deadly.
> - Jack Handey



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

[G. Sylvester]

Jay,
If you dont' have it already, get the Discovery Channel DVD's on
SpaceShipOne. Absolutely incredibly well done. Beyond inspiring. I
probably have watched the first DVD 50+ times. By far the best flying
"movie" I've ever seen. Burt Rutan should win a Nobel Prize. Only
problem is which category?

Gerald

[Larry Dighera]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:03:29 -0800, Bob Fry >
wrote in >:

>There's free or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.

Got a link?

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:03:29 -0800, Bob Fry >
> wrote in >:
>
>> There's free or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.
>
> Got a link?

I'd like to see that myself. My TiVo hardware was free, but I pay $5 a
month for the service.

I'm so happy with TiVO, if there's something better and free, I think
I'll crap myself. <G>

Let's hear it!

[Jay Honeck]

> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR?
> It's time to join the 21st century. :-)

It's funny you should ask. Just the other day, during the playoffs, I
discovered a "record" button on my cable TV remote. I asked my son
"What's that?" -- and he casually responded "Oh, that's for the DVR"

I was astounded. This box has been in my house for over a year, and I
had no idea it was a DVR! I decided to record the Bear's victory
over Seattle, as a test run...

Unfortunately, when it came time to play it back, neither my son nor I
could find a "play" button in any of the menus. The thing has
apparently dutifully recorded the game, but there is no software
button for "play" -- at least in our cable TV package.

I suppose that's available for an extra monthly fee...?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> If you dont' have it already, get the Discovery Channel DVD's on
> SpaceShipOne. Absolutely incredibly well done. Beyond inspiring. I
> probably have watched the first DVD 50+ times. By far the best flying
> "movie" I've ever seen. Burt Rutan should win a Nobel Prize. Only
> problem is which category?

Is that the one entitled "Black Sky"?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John Theune]

B A R R Y wrote:
> Larry Dighera wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:03:29 -0800, Bob Fry >
>> wrote in >:
>>
>>> There's free or cheap alternatives that are much better and no
>>> monthly fees.
>>
>> Got a link?
>
> I'd like to see that myself. My TiVo hardware was free, but I pay $5 a
> month for the service.
>
> I'm so happy with TiVO, if there's something better and free, I think
> I'll crap myself. <G>
>
> Let's hear it!
It's not better and it's not completely free but I think what they are
referring to is MythTV. It's a Linux based DVr program. The upside is
that you don't have to pay a monthly service fee for the program data.
The downside is you need to buy a PC with the proper capture cards and
hook it up to your TV.
Since you say your paying 5.00 a month for the TIVO, I'm going to guess
that you have DirectTV. The Myth solution will not work for you as it
won't control your satellite's receiver.

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

John Theune wrote:
> It's not better and it's not completely free but I think what they are
> referring to is MythTV. It's a Linux based DVr program. The upside is
> that you don't have to pay a monthly service fee for the program data.
> The downside is you need to buy a PC with the proper capture cards and
> hook it up to your TV.
> Since you say your paying 5.00 a month for the TIVO, I'm going to guess
> that you have DirectTV. The Myth solution will not work for you as it
> won't control your satellite's receiver.

You are correct, and I've heard of that. I see the $5/mo as insanely
reasonable based on the following:

- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- The hardware was free.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- I have no PC's anywhere near the TV's.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- If it breaks, DirecTV swaps me for a new one.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- The whole shebang works seamlessly with DirecTV
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- There is no extra attention or maintenance required.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.
- My wife understands how to use it and likes it.

For $5/month. <G>

I was thinking there might be something new I hadn't heard of.

[Mike Proctor]

Jay Honeck wrote:
>> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR?
>> It's time to join the 21st century. :-)
>
> It's funny you should ask. Just the other day, during the playoffs, I
> discovered a "record" button on my cable TV remote. I asked my son
> "What's that?" -- and he casually responded "Oh, that's for the DVR"
>
> I was astounded. This box has been in my house for over a year, and I
> had no idea it was a DVR! I decided to record the Bear's victory
> over Seattle, as a test run...
>
> Unfortunately, when it came time to play it back, neither my son nor I
> could find a "play" button in any of the menus. The thing has
> apparently dutifully recorded the game, but there is no software
> button for "play" -- at least in our cable TV package.

DishNetwork has a DVR button on the remote that gets you into a menu to playback
stuff you record.

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:19:11 GMT, B A R R Y >
wrote in >:

>I'm so happy with TiVO,

If I had to go back to watching commercials, I'd quit watching TV.

[Larry Dighera]

On 31 Jan 2007 06:24:55 -0800, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
in . com>:

>Unfortunately, when it came time to play it back, neither my son nor I
>could find a "play" button in any of the menus.

The buttons you want should be on the remote. There should be a
'List' button to see what has been recorded, and a '|>' (that's an
arrowhead) button to play the selected recording.

[Jim[_11_]]

My DTV remote has a button called "List" that gets you into a similar menu.
Jim

[John Theune]

Larry Dighera wrote:
> On 31 Jan 2007 06:24:55 -0800, "Jay Honeck" > wrote
> in . com>:
>
>> Unfortunately, when it came time to play it back, neither my son nor I
>> could find a "play" button in any of the menus.
>
> The buttons you want should be on the remote. There should be a
> 'List' button to see what has been recorded, and a '|>' (that's an
> arrowhead) button to play the selected recording.
>
When you pushed the record button did it come up with any kind of menu
or indication that it was actually recording? I have 2 Motorola cable
boxs. 1 has a DVR built in and the other does not but the remotes are
the same and the boxes look the same from the outside. While I swear by
my Tivo on my standard definition TV upstairs, I went with the cable
company DVR downstairs because I wanted HD and at the time Tivo had not
come out with their HD DVR. While I still prefer the TIVO, the cable
company box works well enough and bottom line is it's cheaper then the
Tivo. You should be able to swap out your standard cable box for one
with a DVR for another 10.00 per month

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Bob Fry > said:
>>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:
> LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
> LD> join the 21st century. :-)
>
>You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
>or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.

Nobody who has ever used both a TiVo and the free or cheap alternatives
would say that they're "much better". The user interface for MythTV and
your average cable company DVR sucks donkey dongs compared to TiVo. And
a TiVo box is extremely cheap compared to a decent PC to run MythTV on,
which has to be balanced against the $7/month cost of the TiVo service.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
I'm not going to be a place that allows viruses to go unpunished. Anything
virus-ridden gets cleaned, anything that can't gets deleted. Period. ****
anyone who doesn't take heed. This is my network. --

[Don Poitras]

Paul Tomblin > wrote:
> In a previous article, Bob Fry > said:
> >>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:
> > LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
> > LD> join the 21st century. :-)
> >
> >You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
> >or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.

> Nobody who has ever used both a TiVo and the free or cheap alternatives
> would say that they're "much better". The user interface for MythTV and
> your average cable company DVR sucks donkey dongs compared to TiVo. And
> a TiVo box is extremely cheap compared to a decent PC to run MythTV on,
> which has to be balanced against the $7/month cost of the TiVo service.

This is one of those cases where being an early adopter has its benefits.
I have a Series 1 TiVo with lifetime subscription. I put in a larger hard
drive and ethernet card and now I've got a system with no monthly fee that's
easy to use and works with my DirecTV box. I can "backup" any show, edit
out commercials and burn DVDs. And if I happen to be at work when someone
posts that a cool airplane show is on that night, I use my browser to tell
my TiVo to record it. Yes, I'm a geek.

> --
> Paul Tomblin

--
Don Poitras

[Jay Honeck]

> >I'm so happy with TiVO,
>
> If I had to go back to watching commercials, I'd quit watching TV.

Who watches commercials? That's why the remote control was
invented!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jan 31, 11:46 am, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
> In a previous article, Bob Fry > said:
>
> >>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:
> > LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
> > LD> join the 21st century. :-)
>
> >You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
> >or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.
>
> Nobody who has ever used both a TiVo and the free or cheap alternatives
> would say that they're "much better". The user interface for MythTV and
> your average cable company DVR sucks donkey dongs compared to TiVo. And
> a TiVo box is extremely cheap compared to a decent PC to run MythTV on,
> which has to be balanced against the $7/month cost of the TiVo service.

Plus DirecTivo is the only interface I'm aware of that supports two
tuners. These old fashion guys with their Media Center or other "free"
DVR system actually have to change what they are watching when the DVR
wants to record something. Man, I'm happy I don't live in the dark
ages.

-Robert

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jan 31, 1:45 pm, (Don Poitras) wrote:
> Paul Tomblin > wrote:
> And if I happen to be at work when someone
> posts that a cool airplane show is on that night, I use my browser to tell
> my TiVo to record it. Yes, I'm a geek.

And if you happen to be in front of the TV it will change the channel
on you. How irritating. Single tuner DVRs are so old.

-Robert

[Mike Proctor]

Robert M. Gary wrote:
> On Jan 31, 11:46 am, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
>> In a previous article, Bob Fry > said:
>>
>>>>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:
>>> LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
>>> LD> join the 21st century. :-)
>>> You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
>>> or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.
>> Nobody who has ever used both a TiVo and the free or cheap alternatives
>> would say that they're "much better". The user interface for MythTV and
>> your average cable company DVR sucks donkey dongs compared to TiVo. And
>> a TiVo box is extremely cheap compared to a decent PC to run MythTV on,
>> which has to be balanced against the $7/month cost of the TiVo service.
>
> Plus DirecTivo is the only interface I'm aware of that supports two
> tuners. These old fashion guys with their Media Center or other "free"
> DVR system actually have to change what they are watching when the DVR
> wants to record something. Man, I'm happy I don't live in the dark
> ages.
>
> -Robert
>
My dishnetwork dvr has two tuners also.

[Jay Beckman]

"Mike Proctor" > wrote in message
. ..
> Robert M. Gary wrote:
>> On Jan 31, 11:46 am, (Paul Tomblin) wrote:
>>> In a previous article, Bob Fry > said:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> "LD" == Larry Dighera > writes:
>>>> LD> You mean to tell me you don't have a Tevo DVR? It's time to
>>>> LD> join the 21st century. :-)
>>>> You mean you still use TiVo?? You are so last century. There's free
>>>> or cheap alternatives that are much better and no monthly fees.
>>> Nobody who has ever used both a TiVo and the free or cheap alternatives
>>> would say that they're "much better". The user interface for MythTV and
>>> your average cable company DVR sucks donkey dongs compared to TiVo. And
>>> a TiVo box is extremely cheap compared to a decent PC to run MythTV on,
>>> which has to be balanced against the $7/month cost of the TiVo service.
>>
>> Plus DirecTivo is the only interface I'm aware of that supports two
>> tuners. These old fashion guys with their Media Center or other "free"
>> DVR system actually have to change what they are watching when the DVR
>> wants to record something. Man, I'm happy I don't live in the dark
>> ages.
>>
>> -Robert
>>
> My dishnetwork dvr has two tuners also.

As does my Cox Cable HD DVR.

I also have an alternate input which allows me to at least watch the basic
channels (2-99) in the event both signal paths of the DVR are tied up.

Jay B

[Bob Noel]

In article >,
Mike Proctor > wrote:

> My dishnetwork dvr has two tuners also.

My DVR has two tuners. No TIVO, no cable box. Just a recorder.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

[John Clear]

In article om>,
Robert M. Gary > wrote:
>On Jan 31, 1:45 pm, (Don Poitras) wrote:
>> And if I happen to be at work when someone
>> posts that a cool airplane show is on that night, I use my browser to tell
>> my TiVo to record it. Yes, I'm a geek.
>
>And if you happen to be in front of the TV it will change the channel
>on you. How irritating. Single tuner DVRs are so old.

Who watches live TV? Series3 TiVos and DirecTiVo are dual
tunner, btw.

I've got a single tunner Series2 TiVo, and it has never been a
problem.

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/

[Bob Fry]

http://www.byopvr.com/
http://www.sagetv.com/
http://www.dvrplayground.com/article/12576/

OK, right, maybe not "much" better. Some assembly required. But you
do get your privacy. The only reason Tivo sends your requests back to
HQ is to peddle the info to marketeers. Oh, right, they consolidate
it first. For now.
--
Microsoft: "You've got questions. We've got dancing paperclips."

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:01:04 -0800, Bob Fry >
wrote in >:

>The only reason Tivo sends your requests back to
>HQ is to peddle the info to marketeers.

The telephone connection isn't required to watch/record TV. It's only
used for Pay Per View, so there's no reason not to disconnect it.

[Robert M. Gary]

On Jan 31, 7:59 pm, (John Clear) wrote:
> In article om>,
> Robert M. Gary > wrote:
>
> >On Jan 31, 1:45 pm, (Don Poitras) wrote:
> >> And if I happen to be at work when someone
> >> posts that a cool airplane show is on that night, I use my browser to tell
> >> my TiVo to record it. Yes, I'm a geek.
>
> >And if you happen to be in front of the TV it will change the channel
> >on you. How irritating. Single tuner DVRs are so old.
>
> Who watches live TV? Series3 TiVos and DirecTiVo are dual
> tunner, btw.

Timeslip

-Robert

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Mike Proctor wrote:
>
> My dishnetwork dvr has two tuners also.

Same as my DirecTV unit.

Of course, everything we want to record in watch is always on at the
same time, so we get the "I need to change one of the tuners message". <G>

[B A R R Y[_2_]]

Bob Fry wrote:
>
> OK, right, maybe not "much" better. Some assembly required. But you
> do get your privacy. The only reason Tivo sends your requests back to
> HQ is to peddle the info to marketeers. Oh, right, they consolidate
> it first. For now.

So? None of them have my email address, I'm on every do-not-call list
there is (no junk calls in at least a year), and I recycle the catalogs
that get by my DMA mail preferences before I even bring them in the house.

They know I like "Family Guy", "Mythbusters", and "The Colbert Report".
Every person I know also knows this, and now so do you. Big deal! <G>

They probably also know I skip all the commercials.

Jeez, I hope they don't figure out how many of us pause to get a good
look at Kari? Or maybe I _do_ want them to know... <G>

If you're a privacy nut, I'd be much more worried about supermarket and
credit card purchase databases than TiVO.

[Grumman-581[_1_]]

Mike Proctor wrote:
> My dishnetwork dvr has two tuners also.

Which means that you're paying an extra $5 per month for PVR use... And
perhaps another $5 per month for renting that unit... I have probably
the first PVR unit that DishNetwork came out with (which I bought)...
Since it doesn't do the video-on-demand stuff that the new ones do,
there is no way for DishNetwork to know that it is a PVR unit attached
and as such, I don't have to pay the extra $5 for PVR access... Yeah, it
only does around 20-30 hours of recording, but unless I'm gone on
vacation it's unlikely that I need that much storage space anyway... I
just wish there was an easier way to transfer the stuff from it's
harddrive to my computer than a 1:1 realtime playback and record...

[Gig 601XL Builder]

Robert M. Gary wrote:

>
> Plus DirecTivo is the only interface I'm aware of that supports two
> tuners. These old fashion guys with their Media Center or other "free"
> DVR system actually have to change what they are watching when the DVR
> wants to record something. Man, I'm happy I don't live in the dark
> ages.
>
> -Robert

There are non-DirectTV Tivos that have two tuners as well. I have one.