North Aire floats.

[Fortunat1[_8_]]

Anyone have experience with these? Wag Aero are selling plans for these
still. Anyone know of their history? were they always a homebuilt design?
Are they compartmentalised like Edos? Performance? ease of building,
expense?

TIA!

F1

[Drew Dalgleish]

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:43:28 +0000 (UTC), Fortunat1 > wrote:

>Anyone have experience with these? Wag Aero are selling plans for these
>still. Anyone know of their history? were they always a homebuilt design?
>Are they compartmentalised like Edos? Performance? ease of building,
>expense?
>
>TIA!
>
>F1
They're not very big. Only about 1400# IIRC what are you putting them
on?

[Fortunat1]

(Drew Dalgleish) wrote in
:

> On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:43:28 +0000 (UTC), Fortunat1 > wrote:
>
>>Anyone have experience with these? Wag Aero are selling plans for
>>these still. Anyone know of their history? were they always a
>>homebuilt design? Are they compartmentalised like Edos? Performance?
>>ease of building, expense?
>>
>>TIA!
>>
>>F1
> They're not very big. Only about 1400# IIRC what are you putting them
> on?

Big enough, Junior Ace or Cub... Off the top of my head Wag Aero
mentioned up to 1500..
I'm not too enthusiastic about wood floats and I would like to scratch
build them as opposed to going for one of the (expensive) foam options
or the even more expensive second hand edo option..

[Morgans]

"Drew Dalgleish" > wrote

> They're not very big. Only about 1400# IIRC what are you putting them
> on?

Dang, those are some heavy floats!!! <g>

Really though, if you are talking about how much gross weight they will
handle, that fits very nicely for the LSA, don't you think?
--
Jim in NC

[Morgans]

"Fortunat1" > wrote

> Big enough, Junior Ace or Cub... Off the top of my head Wag Aero
> mentioned up to 1500..
> I'm not too enthusiastic about wood floats and I would like to scratch
> build them as opposed to going for one of the (expensive) foam options
> or the even more expensive second hand edo option..

Why is it that you are not enthusiastic about wood floats? Something about
using them, or building them?
--
Jim in NC

[John P Kimmel]

Fortunat1 wrote:
> Anyone have experience with these? Wag Aero are selling plans for these
> still. Anyone know of their history? were they always a homebuilt design?
> Are they compartmentalised like Edos? Performance? ease of building,
> expense?
>
> TIA!
>
> F1
I have the drawings, they have water tight compartments. They are built
a lot like Edos or Wiplines or PeeKays, except whithout the fluted
bottoms. They are definitely not for sheetmetal beginners. They
also look extremely heavy. If you want metal kit floats, I recommend
Zeniths based on having seen a set under construction. I'll sell you my
drawings for half of whatever Wag-Aero's selling theirs for, if you want
to look at them.

--
John Kimmel


GET YER STINKING PAWS OFF ME YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!

[Fortunat1]

John P Kimmel > wrote in
:

> Fortunat1 wrote:
>> Anyone have experience with these? Wag Aero are selling plans for
>> these still. Anyone know of their history? were they always a
>> homebuilt design? Are they compartmentalised like Edos? Performance?
>> ease of building, expense?
>>
>> TIA!
>>
>> F1
> I have the drawings, they have water tight compartments. They are
> built a lot like Edos or Wiplines or PeeKays, except whithout the
> fluted bottoms. They are definitely not for sheetmetal beginners.


Ok, that's a bit discouraging since I've done very little riveting.

> They also look extremely heavy.

Mm, don't want that either...

If you want metal kit floats, I
> recommend Zeniths based on having seen a set under construction. I'll
> sell you my drawings for half of whatever Wag-Aero's selling theirs
> for, if you want to look at them.
>

Well, I wanted to build them from scratch. Do no harm to look at the
North Aire drawings to see what I might see. I'll drop you a line OK?

[Fortunat1]

"Morgans" > wrote in
:

>
> "Fortunat1" > wrote
>
>> Big enough, Junior Ace or Cub... Off the top of my head Wag Aero
>> mentioned up to 1500..
>> I'm not too enthusiastic about wood floats and I would like to
>> scratch build them as opposed to going for one of the (expensive)
>> foam options or the even more expensive second hand edo option..
>
> Why is it that you are not enthusiastic about wood floats? Something
> about using them, or building them?



Well, I imagine that metal floats might be more maintenence free and
easier to repair, not to mention more impervious to getting water
logged. having said that, I don't know enough about either to make an
informed decision there, but more than that I just want to try something
in sheet metal, never having made more than cowlings and covers out of
the stuff before..

[Morgans]

"Fortunat1" > wrote

> Well, I imagine that metal floats might be more maintenence free and
> easier to repair, not to mention more impervious to getting water
> logged. having said that, I don't know enough about either to make an
> informed decision there, but more than that I just want to try something
> in sheet metal, never having made more than cowlings and covers out of
> the stuff before..

Understood...

Although, metal corrodes, especially in sal****er.

Wood does not. It also does not matter to wood one little bit if the water
is salt or fresh.

Wood boat has been done for many years. Epoxy coatings make wood
practically immune to rot. Some also use wood as a core, and a very thin
fiberglass coating inside and out to protect the wood. Some of the best
looking and best performing homebuilts are built that way.

You have to follow your own heart with a material choice, of course, but
don't write off wood. I have never looked for wood float plans, and don't
know how well they hold up, or how heavy they turn out.

It does sound interesting, enough so that I may poke around a little, now
that my interest has be peaked! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Ed Sullivan]

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:29:08 -0500, "Morgans" >
wrote:

>
>"Fortunat1" > wrote
>
>> Well, I imagine that metal floats might be more maintenence free and
>> easier to repair, not to mention more impervious to getting water
>> logged. having said that, I don't know enough about either to make an
>> informed decision there, but more than that I just want to try something
>> in sheet metal, never having made more than cowlings and covers out of
>> the stuff before..
>
>Understood...
>
>Although, metal corrodes, especially in sal****er.
>
>Wood does not. It also does not matter to wood one little bit if the water
>is salt or fresh.
>
>Wood boat has been done for many years. Epoxy coatings make wood
>practically immune to rot. Some also use wood as a core, and a very thin
>fiberglass coating inside and out to protect the wood. Some of the best
>looking and best performing homebuilts are built that way.
>
>You have to follow your own heart with a material choice, of course, but
>don't write off wood. I have never looked for wood float plans, and don't
>know how well they hold up, or how heavy they turn out.
>
>It does sound interesting, enough so that I may poke around a little, now
>that my interest has be peaked! <g>

I think that is piqued, engines peak

[Morgans]

"Ed Sullivan" > wrote

> I think that is piqued, engines peak

You know, I didn't think that was right, but couldn't think of the right
one. I couldn't look it up without a spelling, then.

But, look at it this way; I have never been as interested in wood floats, as
now. That means my interest is at a peak, right? <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
> But, look at it this way; I have never been as interested in wood floats,
> as now. That means my interest is at a peak, right? <g>


Your looking a little peaked, I dare say.


Montblack

[Morgans]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Morgans" wrote)
>> But, look at it this way; I have never been as interested in wood floats,
>> as now. That means my interest is at a peak, right? <g>
>
>
> Your looking a little peaked, I dare say.

Your what? <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
>> Your looking a little peaked, I dare say.

> Your what? <g>


Capt. Oskar Steiger: [inside the German bunker] Sir, the Americans have
taken Palermo!

General Alfred Jodl: Damn!

Messenger: [after pulling up to Monty's command post] Sir, Patton's taken
Palermo!

Field Marshal Sir Bernard Law Montgomery: Damn!

Patton (1970)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066206/quotes


Montyblack

[Peter Dohm]

> >> Your looking a little peaked, I dare say.
>[i]
> > Your what? <g>
>
>
> Capt. Oskar Steiger: Sir, the Americans have
> taken Palermo!
>
> General Alfred Jodl: Damn!
>
> Messenger: [after pulling up to Monty's command post] Sir, Patton's taken
> Palermo!
>
> Field Marshal Sir Bernard Law Montgomery: Damn!
>
> Patton (1970)
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066206/quotes
>
>
> Montyblack
>
>
>
There were some I hadn't heard before. They were ... really something.

Peter

[Fortunat1]

"Morgans" > wrote in
:

>
> "Fortunat1" > wrote
>
>> Well, I imagine that metal floats might be more maintenence free and
>> easier to repair, not to mention more impervious to getting water
>> logged. having said that, I don't know enough about either to make an
>> informed decision there, but more than that I just want to try
>> something in sheet metal, never having made more than cowlings and
>> covers out of the stuff before..
>
> Understood...
>
> Although, metal corrodes, especially in sal****er.

Well, yes, but I'm not planning on any sal****er
>
> Wood does not. It also does not matter to wood one little bit if the
> water is salt or fresh.
>
> Wood boat has been done for many years. Epoxy coatings make wood
> practically immune to rot. Some also use wood as a core, and a very
> thin fiberglass coating inside and out to protect the wood. Some of
> the best looking and best performing homebuilts are built that way.
>
> You have to follow your own heart with a material choice, of course,
> but don't write off wood.

Already have..