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AirRaid[_2_]
February 6th 07, 04:12 PM
Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt

By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press

ORLANDO, Fla. - A NASA astronaut charged with attempting to kidnap a
romantic rival in a love triangle with another astronaut was allowed
to go free on bail Tuesday on the condition that she not contact the
alleged victim.
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The judge told Lisa Marie Nowak she could be released on $15,500 bond,
then asked if she understood the conditions. She responded "yes."

Nowak, a married mother of three, stood in a jail uniform, looking
down during most of the hearing. She planned to return home to
Houston, and the judge ordered her to wear a tracking device.

The 43-year-old robotics specialist faces charges including attempted
kidnapping, attempted vehicle burglary with battery, destruction of
evidence and battery.

Police said she drove 900 miles, donned a disguise and was armed with
a BB gun and pepper spray when she confronted a woman she believed was
a competitor for the affections of Navy Cmdr. William Oefelein, an
unmarried fellow astronaut.

Nowak rode aboard Discovery in July. Oefelein, 41, piloted the space
shuttle Discovery in December. They trained together but never flew
together.

Nowak told police that her relationship with Oefelein was "more than a
working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according
to an arrest affidavit. Police found a love letter to Oefelein in her
car.

According to authorities, Nowak believed another woman, Colleen
Shipman, was romantically involved with Oefelein. When Nowak found out
Shipman was flying to Orlando from Houston, Nowak decided to confront
her early Monday, according to the arrest affidavit.

Nowak raced from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers in the car so she
wouldn't have to stop to go to the bathroom, authorities said.
Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry.

Dressed in a wig and a trench coat, she waited for Shipman's plane to
land and then boarded the same airport shuttle bus Shipman took to get
to her car, police said. Shipman told police she noticed someone
following her, hurried inside the car and locked the doors, according
to the arrest affidavit.

Nowak rapped on the window, tried to open the car door and asked for a
ride. Shipman refused but rolled down the car window a few inches when
Nowak started crying, the statement said. Nowak then sprayed a
chemical into Shipman's car, the affidavit said. Shipman drove to the
parking lot booth and police were called.

An officer reported following Nowak and watching her throw away a bag
containing the wig and BB gun. Police also found a steel mallet, a 4-
inch folding knife, rubber tubing, $600 and garbage bags inside a bag
Nowak was carrying when she was arrested, authorities said.

Two other astronauts attended the hearing. Steve Lindsey, commander of
Nowak's Discovery flight last July, testified that Nowak would obey
the conditions of her release.

Chris Ferguson, a pilot on the mission, also attended the hearing.
Asked afterward about Nowak's behavior, Ferguson said "perplexed is
the word I'm sticking with."

Oefelein and Shipman, who the Houston Chronicle said worked at Patrick
Air Force Base near the
Kennedy Space Center, did not immediately return calls seeking
comment.

NASA spokesman James Hartsfield in Houston said that, as of Monday,
Nowak's status with the astronaut corps remained unchanged. "What will
happen beyond that, I will not speculate," he said.

Hartsfield said he couldn't recall the last time an astronaut was
arrested and said there were no rules against fraternizing among
astronauts.

Police said Nowak told them that she only wanted to scare Shipman into
talking to her about her relationship with Oefelein and didn't want to
harm her physically.

"If you were just going to talk to someone, I don't know that you
would need a wig, a trench coat, an air cartridge BB gun and pepper
spray," said Orlando police Sgt. Barbara Jones. "It's just really a
very sad case."

According to NASA's official biography, Nowak is a Naval Academy
graduate who has a master's degree in aeronautical engineering. She
has a teenage son and younger twin girls.

Oefelein has two children and began his aviation career as a teenager
flying floatplanes in Alaska, according to a NASA biography. He
studied electrical engineering at Oregon State University and later
earned a master's degree in aviation systems at the University of
Tennessee Space Institute. He has been an astronaut since 1998.

___

Associated Press writers Kelli Kennedy and Jessica Gresko in Miami
contributed to this report.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested

tom418
February 6th 07, 08:47 PM
They let her out on bail? Being an astronaut, isn't she a "flight risk" ?
;)
"AirRaid" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Astronaut charged with kidnap attempt
>
> By MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press
>
> ORLANDO, Fla. - A NASA astronaut charged with attempting to kidnap a
> romantic rival in a love triangle with another astronaut was allowed
> to go free on bail Tuesday on the condition that she not contact the
> alleged victim.
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
> The judge told Lisa Marie Nowak she could be released on $15,500 bond,
> then asked if she understood the conditions. She responded "yes."
>
> Nowak, a married mother of three, stood in a jail uniform, looking
> down during most of the hearing. She planned to return home to
> Houston, and the judge ordered her to wear a tracking device.
>
> The 43-year-old robotics specialist faces charges including attempted
> kidnapping, attempted vehicle burglary with battery, destruction of
> evidence and battery.
>
> Police said she drove 900 miles, donned a disguise and was armed with
> a BB gun and pepper spray when she confronted a woman she believed was
> a competitor for the affections of Navy Cmdr. William Oefelein, an
> unmarried fellow astronaut.
>
> Nowak rode aboard Discovery in July. Oefelein, 41, piloted the space
> shuttle Discovery in December. They trained together but never flew
> together.
>
> Nowak told police that her relationship with Oefelein was "more than a
> working relationship but less than a romantic relationship," according
> to an arrest affidavit. Police found a love letter to Oefelein in her
> car.
>
> According to authorities, Nowak believed another woman, Colleen
> Shipman, was romantically involved with Oefelein. When Nowak found out
> Shipman was flying to Orlando from Houston, Nowak decided to confront
> her early Monday, according to the arrest affidavit.
>
> Nowak raced from Houston to Orlando wearing diapers in the car so she
> wouldn't have to stop to go to the bathroom, authorities said.
> Astronauts wear diapers during launch and re-entry.
>
> Dressed in a wig and a trench coat, she waited for Shipman's plane to
> land and then boarded the same airport shuttle bus Shipman took to get
> to her car, police said. Shipman told police she noticed someone
> following her, hurried inside the car and locked the doors, according
> to the arrest affidavit.
>
> Nowak rapped on the window, tried to open the car door and asked for a
> ride. Shipman refused but rolled down the car window a few inches when
> Nowak started crying, the statement said. Nowak then sprayed a
> chemical into Shipman's car, the affidavit said. Shipman drove to the
> parking lot booth and police were called.
>
> An officer reported following Nowak and watching her throw away a bag
> containing the wig and BB gun. Police also found a steel mallet, a 4-
> inch folding knife, rubber tubing, $600 and garbage bags inside a bag
> Nowak was carrying when she was arrested, authorities said.
>
> Two other astronauts attended the hearing. Steve Lindsey, commander of
> Nowak's Discovery flight last July, testified that Nowak would obey
> the conditions of her release.
>
> Chris Ferguson, a pilot on the mission, also attended the hearing.
> Asked afterward about Nowak's behavior, Ferguson said "perplexed is
> the word I'm sticking with."
>
> Oefelein and Shipman, who the Houston Chronicle said worked at Patrick
> Air Force Base near the
> Kennedy Space Center, did not immediately return calls seeking
> comment.
>
> NASA spokesman James Hartsfield in Houston said that, as of Monday,
> Nowak's status with the astronaut corps remained unchanged. "What will
> happen beyond that, I will not speculate," he said.
>
> Hartsfield said he couldn't recall the last time an astronaut was
> arrested and said there were no rules against fraternizing among
> astronauts.
>
> Police said Nowak told them that she only wanted to scare Shipman into
> talking to her about her relationship with Oefelein and didn't want to
> harm her physically.
>
> "If you were just going to talk to someone, I don't know that you
> would need a wig, a trench coat, an air cartridge BB gun and pepper
> spray," said Orlando police Sgt. Barbara Jones. "It's just really a
> very sad case."
>
> According to NASA's official biography, Nowak is a Naval Academy
> graduate who has a master's degree in aeronautical engineering. She
> has a teenage son and younger twin girls.
>
> Oefelein has two children and began his aviation career as a teenager
> flying floatplanes in Alaska, according to a NASA biography. He
> studied electrical engineering at Oregon State University and later
> earned a master's degree in aviation systems at the University of
> Tennessee Space Institute. He has been an astronaut since 1998.
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writers Kelli Kennedy and Jessica Gresko in Miami
> contributed to this report.
>
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested
>

Tom Conner
February 6th 07, 09:33 PM
"tom418" > wrote in message
...
> They let her out on bail? Being an astronaut, isn't she a "flight risk" ?
>

I'm waiting for one of the astronauts (American or foreign) to go psycho
(whether for personal, political, or religious reasons) on the space
station. That could possibly cripple the space program for a long time.

Gig 601XL Builder
February 6th 07, 10:19 PM
Tom Conner wrote:
> "tom418" > wrote in message
> ...
>> They let her out on bail? Being an astronaut, isn't she a "flight
>> risk" ?
>>
>
> I'm waiting for one of the astronauts (American or foreign) to go
> psycho (whether for personal, political, or religious reasons) on the
> space station. That could possibly cripple the space program for a
> long time.

As risk adverse as NASA has become I have no doubt that it would shut down
the US manned program for a minimum of 10 years. Probably closer than 20.

Paul Elliot
February 7th 07, 03:05 PM
Tom Conner wrote:
> "tom418" > wrote in message
> ...
>> They let her out on bail? Being an astronaut, isn't she a "flight risk" ?
>>
>
> I'm waiting for one of the astronauts (American or foreign) to go psycho
> (whether for personal, political, or religious reasons) on the space
> station. That could possibly cripple the space program for a long time.
>
>

Tell me Tom, have you always had this bright and sunny disposition?
:-)

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German, the lovers French and it is all organized by the Swiss.

Hell is where the police are German, the chefs British, the mechanics
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qui si parla Campagnolo
February 7th 07, 04:00 PM
>
> ___
>
> Associated Press writers Kelli Kennedy and Jessica Gresko in Miami
> contributed to this report.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070206/ap_on_re_us/astronaut_arrested

She was at Mugu same time I was, late 80s..VAQ-34, she was a 'FO', I
was in VX-4. I didn't know her but she was in the first 'chick CO' USN
squdron, Rosemary Mariner was CO. I remember all the VAQ-34 women
walking around in a little pack, with the CO at the head..like a
mother duck with her little ducklings

Tex Houston
February 7th 07, 05:33 PM
Do the title words "bb-gun touting" indicate she encourages the use of
bb-guns?

Tex

Ron Natalie
February 8th 07, 12:06 PM
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

> As risk adverse as NASA has become I have no doubt that it would shut down
> the US manned program for a minimum of 10 years. Probably closer than 20.

NASA risk adverse? Surely you jest. The only risk they are adverse
to is bad press. NASA is one of the biggest cover up the screwups
organization in the federal government.

Andrew Swallow
February 8th 07, 07:07 PM
Ron Natalie wrote:
> Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
>
>> As risk adverse as NASA has become I have no doubt that it would shut
>> down the US manned program for a minimum of 10 years. Probably closer
>> than 20.
>
> NASA risk adverse? Surely you jest. The only risk they are adverse
> to is bad press. NASA is one of the biggest cover up the screwups
> organization in the federal government.
>
Risk adverse people of a political bent believe that hidden risks are
not dangerous. This means that the people actually doing the work
get killed by the risk and the bosses caught for organising the coverup.

Andrew Swallow

Allen Epps
February 9th 07, 01:53 AM
In article >,
Andrew Swallow > wrote:

> Ron Natalie wrote:
> > Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
> >
> >> As risk adverse as NASA has become I have no doubt that it would shut
> >> down the US manned program for a minimum of 10 years. Probably closer
> >> than 20.
> >
> > NASA risk adverse? Surely you jest. The only risk they are adverse
> > to is bad press. NASA is one of the biggest cover up the screwups
> > organization in the federal government.
> >
> Risk adverse people of a political bent believe that hidden risks are
> not dangerous. This means that the people actually doing the work
> get killed by the risk and the bosses caught for organising the coverup.
>
> Andrew Swallow

Anyone know how long it takes an Astronaut to drive from Houston to
Orlando ?

Depends ;)

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