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February 8th 07, 04:34 PM
Is Meigs gone?

Gig 601XL Builder
February 8th 07, 05:20 PM
wrote:
> Is Meigs gone?

The real airport is. But I know it can be hard to tell lately but this isn't
a flight sim newsgroup. :)

A Guy Called Tyketto
February 8th 07, 06:47 PM
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Gig 601XL Builder <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:
> wrote:
>> Is Meigs gone?
>
> The real airport is. But I know it can be hard to tell lately but this isn't
> a flight sim newsgroup. :)

Just a little bit. ;)

Seriously, in the default scenery for FS2004, it is definitely
gone. I don't own FSX (yet), but it's safe to say that it isn't in the
default scenery there either.

BL.
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Bill Denton
February 8th 07, 07:29 PM
Meigs is there in my version of FS 2004...



"A Guy Called Tyketto" > wrote in message
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> Gig 601XL Builder <wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net> wrote:
> > wrote:
> >> Is Meigs gone?
> >
> > The real airport is. But I know it can be hard to tell lately but this
isn't
> > a flight sim newsgroup. :)
>
> Just a little bit. ;)
>
> Seriously, in the default scenery for FS2004, it is definitely
> gone. I don't own FSX (yet), but it's safe to say that it isn't in the
> default scenery there either.
>
> BL.
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Mxsmanic
February 8th 07, 07:46 PM
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

> Seriously, in the default scenery for FS2004, it is definitely
> gone.

Incorrect. Not only is Meigs present in FS2004, but there is still a built-in
flight that starts at the field.

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A Guy Called Tyketto
February 8th 07, 07:54 PM
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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
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>> Seriously, in the default scenery for FS2004, it is definitely
>> gone.
>
> Incorrect. Not only is Meigs present in FS2004, but there is still a built-in
> flight that starts at the field.

Umm.. WRONG.

Meigs looks like an island without a field in FS2004,
especially with the 9.1 patch for it. Meigs is gone in it.

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Bill Denton
February 8th 07, 08:15 PM
My FS 2004 Version 9.1 has Meigs airport still there...



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> Mxsmanic > wrote:
> > A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
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> >> Seriously, in the default scenery for FS2004, it is definitely
> >> gone.
> >
> > Incorrect. Not only is Meigs present in FS2004, but there is still a
built-in
> > flight that starts at the field.
>
> Umm.. WRONG.
>
> Meigs looks like an island without a field in FS2004,
> especially with the 9.1 patch for it. Meigs is gone in it.
>
> BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto
February 8th 07, 08:39 PM
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Bill Denton > wrote:
> My FS 2004 Version 9.1 has Meigs airport still there...
>

My fault, guys.

I just checked mine, and I forgot I installed scenery to take
it out. I rarely fly out of it when I use it, so I never gave it a
second glance. My bad.

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Dallas
February 8th 07, 09:28 PM
On 8 Feb 2007 08:34:25 -0800, wrote:

> Is Meigs gone?

I've got FSX but I hate it so much I can't bring myself to load it up to
look for you..

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Jay Honeck
February 8th 07, 09:36 PM
> > Is Meigs gone?
>
> I've got FSX but I hate it so much I can't bring myself to load it up to
> look for you..

FSX has some good points. Flying the new Maule out of some of the
back-country strips in Idaho is quite stunning, for example. (And the
new Maule itself is wonderfully done...)

Unfortunately, even with the fastest computer, the frame rates on FSX
are not acceptable. In certain, high-graphics-intense situations, the
simulation becomes more of a slide show unless you turn realism
settings to unacceptably low levels.

Supposedly Microsoft is going to be issuing a patch to make it run
better. FS2004 is just a better product, until they do.
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Dallas
February 8th 07, 10:08 PM
On 8 Feb 2007 13:36:02 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote:

> Supposedly Microsoft is going to be issuing a patch to make it run
> better. FS2004 is just a better product, until they do.

Pretty much right on target with that assessment.


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Gig 601XL Builder
February 8th 07, 10:56 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:

> Supposedly Microsoft is going to be issuing a patch to make it run
> better. FS2004 is just a better product, until they do.

That patch is called Vista. Of course you are going to have to upgrade your
computer to run it. :)

Mxsmanic
February 9th 07, 02:39 AM
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

> Meigs looks like an island without a field in FS2004,
> especially with the 9.1 patch for it. Meigs is gone in it.

It's hard to believe what you say when I have the field here in front of me,
with the Cessna idling on the runway. Look under "Other" in the saved
flights, and select "Meigs flight."

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Mxsmanic
February 9th 07, 02:40 AM
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

> My fault, guys.
>
> I just checked mine, and I forgot I installed scenery to take
> it out. I rarely fly out of it when I use it, so I never gave it a
> second glance. My bad.

I'll keep your insistence in mind the next time you make assertions in other
domains.

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Mxsmanic
February 9th 07, 02:41 AM
Jay Honeck writes:

> Unfortunately, even with the fastest computer, the frame rates on FSX
> are not acceptable. In certain, high-graphics-intense situations, the
> simulation becomes more of a slide show unless you turn realism
> settings to unacceptably low levels.

Is this true even on your super-duper Kiwi?

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Mxsmanic
February 9th 07, 02:42 AM
Gig 601XL Builder writes:

> That patch is called Vista. Of course you are going to have to upgrade your
> computer to run it. :)

Which means that it's really not running better after all. Vista runs
everything slower, since all that DRM code interferes in absolutely everything
the OS does.

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A Guy Called Tyketto
February 9th 07, 07:29 AM
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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
>
>> Meigs looks like an island without a field in FS2004,
>> especially with the 9.1 patch for it. Meigs is gone in it.
>
> It's hard to believe what you say when I have the field here in front of me,
> with the Cessna idling on the runway. Look under "Other" in the saved
> flights, and select "Meigs flight."
>

I keep the scenery in line with the real world and don't use
it. But then again, if you're the one insisting that flightsimming is
real, then perhaps you should keep it real with the rest of the world
yourself. I went out and found scenery that does this.

BL.
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A Guy Called Tyketto
February 9th 07, 07:31 AM
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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
>
>> My fault, guys.
>>
>> I just checked mine, and I forgot I installed scenery to take
>> it out. I rarely fly out of it when I use it, so I never gave it a
>> second glance. My bad.
>
> I'll keep your insistence in mind the next time you make assertions in other
> domains.

I can admit when I am wrong about something. Unlike yourself,
who tends to argue lost causes. A man who can admit his mistakes makes
for a better person tomorrow; a man too prideful and arrogant to admit
his mistakes makes for a better fool.

BL.
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Jon
February 9th 07, 01:57 PM
On Feb 9, 2:31 am, A Guy Called Tyketto
> wrote:
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> > A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
>
> >> My fault, guys.
[...]
> I can admit when I am wrong about something.

A place that's too painful inside for some.

> Unlike yourself, who tends to argue lost causes.

I've been reading newsgroups for quite some time (first on 300baud
dialup to a server running nightly UUCP feeds ;).

It's trivial to detect the obsession. Indentations (in either article
summary or article content, or sometimes both) which push the beyond
the envelope of the right margin as good indicators ;) Excessive leaf
nodes can also be found in the forest of uselessness...

> A man who can admit his mistakes makes
> for a better person tomorrow;

The amount of control which must be relinquished in admitting fault
may be too painful for some.

> a man too prideful and arrogant to admit his mistakes makes for a better fool.

What a chore it must seem for those that have to put up with the rest
of us.


I'm not a pilot and have said as much a while back (pretty much on
entry to this newsgroup).

I don't post a lot, because I'd rather listen to the collective
experiences of those that a) have been here longer and b) have been
airborne.

It's not even a matter of the killfile anymore. I've noticed a lot of
the pilots I used to see posting here, whose content I looked forward
to reading, have simply stopped posting.

There had been a lot of wisdom to be found in many a soft-spoken post
here.

Now it's just harder to find the signal...


Enter the Leaf Node, a.k.a the Squelcher, a.k.a. the Ground Truth
<pffft>

It talks a lot, but it doesn't say much...


Regards,
Jon

Jay Honeck
February 10th 07, 12:01 AM
> > Unfortunately, even with the fastest computer, the frame rates on FSX
> > are not acceptable. In certain, high-graphics-intense situations, the
> > simulation becomes more of a slide show unless you turn realism
> > settings to unacceptably low levels.
>
> Is this true even on your super-duper Kiwi?

Yep. FSX runs acceptably -- which is better than most people will get
-- but "acceptably" isn't what I'm looking for in a flight simulator.

FS2004 runs fantastically -- and that's what we're sticking with,
until further notice.
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Mxsmanic
February 10th 07, 01:42 AM
Jay Honeck writes:

> Yep. FSX runs acceptably -- which is better than most people will get
> -- but "acceptably" isn't what I'm looking for in a flight simulator.
>
> FS2004 runs fantastically -- and that's what we're sticking with,
> until further notice.

A wise decision, IMO. Don't fix what isn't broken.

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Rolf Blom
February 12th 07, 06:07 PM
On 2007-02-08 22:28, Dallas wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2007 08:34:25 -0800, wrote:
>
>> Is Meigs gone?
>
> I've got FSX but I hate it so much I can't bring myself to load it up to
> look for you..
>

A friend is doing a simulated round-the-world trip in FSX
and as he happened to pass by Chicago recently, he took this
screenshot showing Meigs is indeed gone in that world too:

http://users.telenet.be/lange/images/ATW/atw_39.jpg

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