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Square Wheels
November 30th 06, 05:32 PM

Al Denelsbeck
November 30th 06, 06:11 PM
Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.

Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)


- Al.

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Starshiy Nemo
November 30th 06, 06:44 PM
Al Denelsbeck a écrit :
> Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.
>
> Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)
>
>
> - Al.
>
Less than a 747

Regards

Goofey Grape
November 30th 06, 08:07 PM
"Starshiy Nemo" > wrote in message
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> Al Denelsbeck a écrit :
>> Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.
>>
>> Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)
>>
>>
>> - Al.
>>
> Less than a 747
>
> Regards

how can that be? if its bigger than a 747 the wake would be bigger, so you
have no idea what you are talking about....

RustY©
November 30th 06, 08:18 PM
"Goofey Grape" > wrote in message
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> how can that be? if its bigger than a 747 the wake would be bigger, so you
> have no idea what you are talking about....
>

So it's a bad idea to cross behind a zeppelin then ? Contrary to popular
belief, size is not everything.

Luke
November 30th 06, 08:41 PM
"Goofey Grape" > wrote in message
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> "Starshiy Nemo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Al Denelsbeck a écrit :
> >> Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.
> >>
> >> Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> - Al.
> >>
> > Less than a 747
> >
> > Regards
>
> how can that be? if its bigger than a 747 the wake would be bigger, so you
> have no idea what you are talking about....


Sit down before you hurt yourself and leave engineering to us engineers.


Luke

Tom Hayden
November 30th 06, 10:39 PM
Luke wrote, "Sit down before you hurt yourself and leave engineering to us
engineers."


Priceless!


Thanks for the big smile that crossed my face when I read it!

Tom

Al Denelsbeck
December 1st 06, 05:22 AM
"Luke" > wrote in
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> "Goofey Grape" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Starshiy Nemo" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Al Denelsbeck a écrit :
>> >> Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - Al.
>> >>
>> > Less than a 747
>> >
>> > Regards
>>
>> how can that be? if its bigger than a 747 the wake would be bigger,
>> so you have no idea what you are talking about....
>
>
> Sit down before you hurt yourself and leave engineering to us
> engineers.
>
>
> Luke


Well, I have to admit to being more than a little skeptical of that
claim myself, so I did some checking. And the numerous articles don't
exactly bear out the engineers' (or potentially the publicists') claims
too well.

This was the latest that I found:
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=bea678c7-5848-404d-
bf97-76926d555827&

or

http://tinyurl.com/ym485x

Long story short: Less than initially feared, but a lot more than
claimed, and believed to be more than a 747 based on the spacing
recommendations .


- Al.

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Alan Erskine
December 1st 06, 09:09 AM
"Starshiy Nemo" > wrote in message
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> Less than a 747
>
> Regards

Why?


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Alan Erskine
December 1st 06, 09:10 AM
"RustY©" > wrote in message
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>
> "Goofey Grape" > wrote in message
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> > how can that be? if its bigger than a 747 the wake would be bigger, so
you
> > have no idea what you are talking about....
> >
>
> So it's a bad idea to cross behind a zeppelin then ? Contrary to popular
> belief, size is not everything.

If the Zepplin were travelling five times its maximum speed it would be!


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No Name
December 1st 06, 11:47 AM
Now all they have to do is find that many people who ALL want to go to the
exact same place (giant airfield out in the middle of nowhere) at the exact
same time.

"Square Wheels" > wrote in message
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Frank[_2_]
December 1st 06, 07:13 PM
"Goofey Grape" > wrote in
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> "Starshiy Nemo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Al Denelsbeck a écrit :
>>> Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.
>>>
>>> Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Al.
>>>
>> Less than a 747
>>
>> Regards
>
> how can that be? if its bigger than a 747 the wake would be bigger, so
> you have no idea what you are talking about....
>
>

Wake turbulence is a function of wing loading, not absolute aircraft size.

Starshiy Nemo
December 1st 06, 07:30 PM
From a well known aeronautical writer !!!!

>
In more explicit terms, in spite of its imposing size and maximal
take-off mass of up to 560 tonnes, the A380 is a plane like any other.
The long series of tests that ended on the 28th of September proved,
with figures to support them, that the A380 and the 747 are, as far as
slipstream turbulence is concerned, “completely similar” planes. The
only thing left now is to find out how the Civil Aviation Organisation
will regard these achievements.

In Toulouse, their sense of humour hadn’t vanished, in spite of all
this. So, as if it was just by coincidence, we saw the A380 fly in tight
formation with the French airforce Alpha Jet , or again with the Red
Arrow Hawks of the Royal Air Force. These were small jets that obviously
were not untowardly shaken by the big bad wolf. Isn’t that sufficient?
Airbus recently flew four A380s in formation, apparently for an
advertising film.. It was an historical “first” that provided us with
wonderful sights that, lets be frank, would surely have cocked a snook
at those great experts in Montreal.
And so goes the trans-Atlantic rivalry. On certain days there is no
shortage of panache but sometimes, as we note yet once again, it is
frankly pusillanimous.


A+

§qu@r3 Wh33£s
December 1st 06, 08:05 PM
On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
history, Starshiy Nemo wrote:

> pusillanimous.

Jeez, haven't heard that (very often) since the great Spiro Agnew and
his 'pusillanimous pussyfooters'!


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Life goes on around you in so many different ways.
I know my share of history, how hard it is to be free
From wearing masks that turn to skin, hiding what you could have been.

And I, I, I, I'm so confused, which way, which way to choose?
Ride with me baby 'til the end of the day.....

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Morgans[_2_]
December 4th 06, 10:56 PM
"Starshiy Nemo" > wrote in message
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> Al Denelsbeck a écrit :
>> Makes me wonder what the wake turbulence is on that wombat.
>>
>> Maybe it can find additional roles in hurricane busting ;-)
>>
>>
>> - Al.
>>
> Less than a 747

That is what the company line was, as it was being designed.

In real life, the wake turbulence is so severe, much more than the 747, that
following separation has been increased.to 10 NM, compared to 6 NM for the 747.

Also, the wake's descent is more pronounced than the 747.\


This is a major blow for Airbus. Any gains in capacity will be negated by the
increased times between takeoff and landing.
--
Jim in NC

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