USAF Museum July '06 No.21

[Bill Brown]

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William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro

[Skyway]

I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize WE
did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the tips
(and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).

The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain. Can
somebody explain this ?

Thank you in advance,

Chris

"Bill Brown" > wrote in message
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[Skyway]

I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize WE
did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the tips
(and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).

The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain. Can
somebody explain this ?

Thank you in advance,

Chris

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[Ray O'Hara]

"Skyway" > wrote in message
...
> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize WE
> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
tips
> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>
> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
Can
> somebody explain this ?
>
> Thank you in advance,

I've always thought it a waste too.
it must have to do with the wingflap controls.

[Ray O'Hara]

"Skyway" > wrote in message
...
> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize WE
> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
tips
> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>
> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
Can
> somebody explain this ?
>
> Thank you in advance,

I've always thought it a waste too.
it must have to do with the wingflap controls.

[Bill Brown]

"Ray O'Hara" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Skyway" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize
>> WE
>> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
> tips
>> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>>
>> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
>> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
> Can
>> somebody explain this ?
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>
> I've always thought it a waste too.
> it must have to do with the wingflap controls.

Ray & "Skyway",
I found this using "ask.com":
The Model 21 had folding wing tips for aircraft carrier use. This was
the model on board the Japanese carriers at the beginning of the Pacific War
on December 7, 1941. **It was also the model captured almost undamaged in
the Aleutians in 1942,*** and examined in detail by American engineers.
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro

[Bill Brown]

"Ray O'Hara" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Skyway" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize
>> WE
>> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
> tips
>> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>>
>> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
>> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
> Can
>> somebody explain this ?
>>
>> Thank you in advance,
>
> I've always thought it a waste too.
> it must have to do with the wingflap controls.

Ray & "Skyway",
I found this using "ask.com":
The Model 21 had folding wing tips for aircraft carrier use. This was
the model on board the Japanese carriers at the beginning of the Pacific War
on December 7, 1941. **It was also the model captured almost undamaged in
the Aleutians in 1942,*** and examined in detail by American engineers.
William M. (Bill) Brown
seneo-pro

[Claus Gustafsen]

The earlier planes couldn't pass down the elevator without this fold. The
next version had square tips (Also known as a Hamp) and the later versions
had the original rounded shape, but shorter span.

--


Claus Gustafsen
Strandby Denmark
mail me at
See my modeling at www.gustafsen.nu

"Bill Brown" > skrev i en meddelelse
...
>
> "Ray O'Hara" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Skyway" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize
>>> WE
>>> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
>> tips
>>> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>>>
>>> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
>>> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
>> Can
>>> somebody explain this ?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> I've always thought it a waste too.
>> it must have to do with the wingflap controls.
>
> Ray & "Skyway",
> I found this using "ask.com":
> The Model 21 had folding wing tips for aircraft carrier use. This was
> the model on board the Japanese carriers at the beginning of the Pacific
> War on December 7, 1941. **It was also the model captured almost undamaged
> in the Aleutians in 1942,*** and examined in detail by American engineers.
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
>

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[Claus Gustafsen]

The earlier planes couldn't pass down the elevator without this fold. The
next version had square tips (Also known as a Hamp) and the later versions
had the original rounded shape, but shorter span.

--


Claus Gustafsen
Strandby Denmark
mail me at
See my modeling at www.gustafsen.nu

"Bill Brown" > skrev i en meddelelse
...
>
> "Ray O'Hara" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Skyway" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize
>>> WE
>>> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
>> tips
>>> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>>>
>>> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
>>> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
>> Can
>>> somebody explain this ?
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>
>> I've always thought it a waste too.
>> it must have to do with the wingflap controls.
>
> Ray & "Skyway",
> I found this using "ask.com":
> The Model 21 had folding wing tips for aircraft carrier use. This was
> the model on board the Japanese carriers at the beginning of the Pacific
> War on December 7, 1941. **It was also the model captured almost undamaged
> in the Aleutians in 1942,*** and examined in detail by American engineers.
> William M. (Bill) Brown
> seneo-pro
>

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[Skyway]

Thank you for the explanation : )

"Claus Gustafsen" > wrote in message
...
> The earlier planes couldn't pass down the elevator without this fold. The
> next version had square tips (Also known as a Hamp) and the later versions
> had the original rounded shape, but shorter span.
>
> --
>
>
> Claus Gustafsen
> Strandby Denmark
> mail me at
> See my modeling at www.gustafsen.nu
>
> "Bill Brown" > skrev i en meddelelse
> ...
>>
>> "Ray O'Hara" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Skyway" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize
>>>> WE
>>>> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
>>> tips
>>>> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>>>>
>>>> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
>>>> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
>>> Can
>>>> somebody explain this ?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> I've always thought it a waste too.
>>> it must have to do with the wingflap controls.
>>
>> Ray & "Skyway",
>> I found this using "ask.com":
>> The Model 21 had folding wing tips for aircraft carrier use. This was
>> the model on board the Japanese carriers at the beginning of the Pacific
>> War on December 7, 1941. **It was also the model captured almost
>> undamaged in the Aleutians in 1942,*** and examined in detail by American
>> engineers.
>> William M. (Bill) Brown
>> seneo-pro
>>
>
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[Skyway]

Thank you for the explanation : )

"Claus Gustafsen" > wrote in message
...
> The earlier planes couldn't pass down the elevator without this fold. The
> next version had square tips (Also known as a Hamp) and the later versions
> had the original rounded shape, but shorter span.
>
> --
>
>
> Claus Gustafsen
> Strandby Denmark
> mail me at
> See my modeling at www.gustafsen.nu
>
> "Bill Brown" > skrev i en meddelelse
> ...
>>
>> "Ray O'Hara" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Skyway" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> I have always been curious about the wingtips on this plane. I realize
>>>> WE
>>>> did this to save space on carriers but I never understood why only the
>>> tips
>>>> (and not much of it) were folded on the Japanese plane (??).
>>>>
>>>> The only reasoning I can come up with was so they could store them but
>>>> still, it seems like an awful lot of engineering for such little gain.
>>> Can
>>>> somebody explain this ?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you in advance,
>>>
>>> I've always thought it a waste too.
>>> it must have to do with the wingflap controls.
>>
>> Ray & "Skyway",
>> I found this using "ask.com":
>> The Model 21 had folding wing tips for aircraft carrier use. This was
>> the model on board the Japanese carriers at the beginning of the Pacific
>> War on December 7, 1941. **It was also the model captured almost
>> undamaged in the Aleutians in 1942,*** and examined in detail by American
>> engineers.
>> William M. (Bill) Brown
>> seneo-pro
>>
>
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[Andre Blanchard]

This is a wonderful example of this plane (an original instead of a modified
Harvard or Texan - which still are nice).

Nce picture :)

Andre Blanchard
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[Andre Blanchard]

This is a wonderful example of this plane (an original instead of a modified
Harvard or Texan - which still are nice).

Nce picture :)

Andre Blanchard
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