Oshkosh Images Posted

[Tyson Rininger]

Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm


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TVR Photography
P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
http://www.tvrphotography.com
831.663.1292 Office
831.905.3210 Cell
831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax

[Jerry Wass]

I guess I'm stoopid, but I couldn't find any Oskosh Pics..

Tyson Rininger wrote:

> Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
> http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm
>
> --
> TVR Photography
> P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
> http://www.tvrphotography.com
> 831.663.1292 Office
> 831.905.3210 Cell
> 831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax

[Jerry Wass]

OH, I See,,,I got Nutscrape & it dont work fer s**t..

Tyson Rininger wrote:

> Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
> http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm
>
> --
> TVR Photography
> P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
> http://www.tvrphotography.com
> 831.663.1292 Office
> 831.905.3210 Cell
> 831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax

[Tyson Rininger]

Yeah, I haven't figured out how to crossplatform the site to for NS.
Although, according to my stats, only 4% of those that visit the site are on
NS....Is it even worth the time?

here's a more direct link if it'll
help...http://www.tvrphotography.com/osh03.htm

Tyson



"Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
...
> OH, I See,,,I got Nutscrape & it dont work fer s**t..
>
> Tyson Rininger wrote:
>
> > Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
> > http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm
> >
> > --
> > TVR Photography
> > P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
> > http://www.tvrphotography.com
> > 831.663.1292 Office
> > 831.905.3210 Cell
> > 831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax
>

[rip]

NS worked fine for me.

Tyson Rininger wrote:
> Yeah, I haven't figured out how to crossplatform the site to for NS.
> Although, according to my stats, only 4% of those that visit the site are on
> NS....Is it even worth the time?
>
> here's a more direct link if it'll
> help...http://www.tvrphotography.com/osh03.htm
>
> Tyson
>
>
>
> "Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>OH, I See,,,I got Nutscrape & it dont work fer s**t..
>>
>>Tyson Rininger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
>>>http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm
>>>
>>>--
>>>TVR Photography
>>>P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
>>>http://www.tvrphotography.com
>>>831.663.1292 Office
>>>831.905.3210 Cell
>>>831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax
>>
>
>

[Jerry Wass]

Yes, that's better, I can see the thumbnails of Osh. pics now---is it your
intent,
as a professional photog, to keep them small, so they can't be d/loaded ?
Thanks, for your concern
Jerry


Tyson Rininger wrote:

> Yeah, I haven't figured out how to crossplatform the site to for NS.
> Although, according to my stats, only 4% of those that visit the site are on
> NS....Is it even worth the time?
>
> here's a more direct link if it'll
> help...http://www.tvrphotography.com/osh03.htm
>
> Tyson
>
> "Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
> ...
> > OH, I See,,,I got Nutscrape & it dont work fer s**t..
> >
> > Tyson Rininger wrote:
> >
> > > Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
> > > http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm
> > >
> > > --
> > > TVR Photography
> > > P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
> > > http://www.tvrphotography.com
> > > 831.663.1292 Office
> > > 831.905.3210 Cell
> > > 831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax
> >

[Tyson Rininger]

You are able to click on 'em right? There should be larger 525x350 dpi
images that appear in a seperate window when clicked on.

Lemme know if you can't!

Tyson


"Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
...
> Yes, that's better, I can see the thumbnails of Osh. pics now---is it your
> intent,
> as a professional photog, to keep them small, so they can't be d/loaded ?
> Thanks, for your concern
> Jerry
>
>
> Tyson Rininger wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I haven't figured out how to crossplatform the site to for NS.
> > Although, according to my stats, only 4% of those that visit the site
are on
> > NS....Is it even worth the time?
> >
> > here's a more direct link if it'll
> > help...http://www.tvrphotography.com/osh03.htm
> >
> > Tyson
> >
> > "Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > OH, I See,,,I got Nutscrape & it dont work fer s**t..
> > >
> > > Tyson Rininger wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hope you enjoy the pics half as much as I enjoyed the experience.
> > > > http://www.tvrphotography.com/Aviation.htm
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > TVR Photography
> > > > P.O. Box 1227, Monterey, CA 93942
> > > > http://www.tvrphotography.com
> > > > 831.663.1292 Office
> > > > 831.905.3210 Cell
> > > > 831.646.5236 Studio Ph/Fax
> > >
>

[Ron Natalie]

"Jerry Wass" > wrote in message ...
> Yes, that's better, I can see the thumbnails of Osh. pics now---is it your
> intent,
> as a professional photog, to keep them small, so they can't be d/loaded ?

Maybe he's hoping the EAA won't notice him selling Airventure photos and
shut him down.

[Tyson Rininger]

The event was open to the public. It's perfectly legal to sell images of
aircraft in the sky. Images with recognizable individuals are not for sale
due to lack of model releases. Airventure does not own the rights to my
images, intellectual or otherwise.

Furthermore, they are for sale as prints. If a client wishes to use an
image for commercial purposes, the proper steps will be taken at that time.

Tyson


"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Jerry Wass" > wrote in message
...
> > Yes, that's better, I can see the thumbnails of Osh. pics now---is it
your
> > intent,
> > as a professional photog, to keep them small, so they can't be d/loaded
?
>
> Maybe he's hoping the EAA won't notice him selling Airventure photos and
> shut him down.
>
>

[Stu Gotts]

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:59:55 -0500, "Ron Natalie" >
wrote:

>
>"Jerry Wass" > wrote in message ...
>> Yes, that's better, I can see the thumbnails of Osh. pics now---is it your
>> intent,
>> as a professional photog, to keep them small, so they can't be d/loaded ?
>
>Maybe he's hoping the EAA won't notice him selling Airventure photos and
>shut him down.
>
Know what he's hoping? Glad you pointed that out.

[Ron Natalie]

"Tyson Rininger" > wrote in message k.net...
> The event was open to the public. It's perfectly legal to sell images of
> aircraft in the sky.

Sorry, that's certainly not true. It is quite common at things like sporting events for
the event to claim copyright on the "show." Maybe you can get away with it at
Airventure (although they specifically claim such rights, see this link:
http://www.eaa.org/trademark_policy.html ), but try it at a NASCAR
event sometime, their lawyers will be on you faster than than you can say
Tony Stewart.

Not all your pictures are of aircraft in the sky anyway (not that it makes any difference).

[Stu Gotts]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:33:50 -0500, "Ron Natalie" >
wrote:

>
>"Tyson Rininger" > wrote in message k.net...
>> The event was open to the public. It's perfectly legal to sell images of
>> aircraft in the sky.
>
>Sorry, that's certainly not true. It is quite common at things like sporting events for
>the event to claim copyright on the "show." Maybe you can get away with it at
>Airventure (although they specifically claim such rights, see this link:
>http://www.eaa.org/trademark_policy.html ), but try it at a NASCAR
>event sometime, their lawyers will be on you faster than than you can say
>Tony Stewart.
>
>Not all your pictures are of aircraft in the sky anyway (not that it makes any difference).

You really do spend a lot of time showing people that they are wrong,
don't you. Now, if one were to look a bit further, one might see how
this, as are most of you posts, are riddled with your own personal
interpretations which are mostly incorrect.

[Ron Natalie]

"Stu Gotts" > wrote in message ...

> You really do spend a lot of time showing people that they are wrong,
> don't you. Now, if one were to look a bit further, one might see how
> this, as are most of you posts, are riddled with your own personal
> interpretations which are mostly incorrect.

If people want to discuss (or argue) what I say in my posts, they are welcome
to do that. I'm always willing to listen, and even to be persuaded by other's
posts. This I welcome as opposed to people who just pop up here and
throw flames on the group without contributing any information.

[Tyson Rininger]

While I'm greatful for your guys' concern over my right to sell images, the
law is still on my side. I am familiar with NASCAR and their policies (I'm
a photographer for Laguna Seca Raceway) and also know the difference between
a sanctioning body (NASCAR)and a club such as EAA. While I don't agree with
NASCAR's bully approach to the right's grab scenario, EAA does not have
commercial rights over the aircraft that participate nor the land in which
the airport occupies...a little different than a privately owned racetrack
which pays NASCAR for their presence.

On another note, just about all of the key players involved with EAA know of
my photography including founder Paul Pobrezney and President, Tom
Pobrezney. Even their PR guy knows of the website.

Try to enjoy the images...that's kinda the idea!

Tyson

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Tyson Rininger" > wrote in message
k.net...
> > The event was open to the public. It's perfectly legal to sell images
of
> > aircraft in the sky.
>
> Sorry, that's certainly not true. It is quite common at things like
sporting events for
> the event to claim copyright on the "show." Maybe you can get away with
it at
> Airventure (although they specifically claim such rights, see this link:
> http://www.eaa.org/trademark_policy.html ), but try it at a NASCAR
> event sometime, their lawyers will be on you faster than than you can say
> Tony Stewart.
>
> Not all your pictures are of aircraft in the sky anyway (not that it makes
any difference).
>
>

[Stu Gotts]

The three of your last posts that I've seen (excluding this) were to
let someone know they were wrong, or to explain what a poster meant to
say. How about doing something useful with your clairvoyance and give
us the winning lottery numbers, numb nuts!

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:17:37 -0500, "Ron Natalie" >
wrote:

>
>"Stu Gotts" > wrote in message ...
>
>> You really do spend a lot of time showing people that they are wrong,
>> don't you. Now, if one were to look a bit further, one might see how
>> this, as are most of you posts, are riddled with your own personal
>> interpretations which are mostly incorrect.
>
>If people want to discuss (or argue) what I say in my posts, they are welcome
>to do that. I'm always willing to listen, and even to be persuaded by other's
>posts. This I welcome as opposed to people who just pop up here and
>throw flames on the group without contributing any information.
>

[Roger Halstead]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:22:11 GMT, "Tyson Rininger"
> wrote:

>While I'm greatful for your guys' concern over my right to sell images, the
>law is still on my side. I am familiar with NASCAR and their policies (I'm
>a photographer for Laguna Seca Raceway) and also know the difference between
>a sanctioning body (NASCAR)and a club such as EAA. While I don't agree with
>NASCAR's bully approach to the right's grab scenario, EAA does not have
>commercial rights over the aircraft that participate nor the land in which
>the airport occupies...a little different than a privately owned racetrack
>which pays NASCAR for their presence.
>
>On another note, just about all of the key players involved with EAA know of
>my photography including founder Paul Pobrezney and President, Tom
>Pobrezney. Even their PR guy knows of the website.
>
>Try to enjoy the images...that's kinda the idea!
>
>Tyson
>
>"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>>
>> "Tyson Rininger" > wrote in message
k.net...
>> > The event was open to the public. It's perfectly legal to sell images
>of
>> > aircraft in the sky.
>>
>> Sorry, that's certainly not true. It is quite common at things like
>sporting events for
>> the event to claim copyright on the "show." Maybe you can get away with
>it at
>> Airventure (although they specifically claim such rights, see this link:

The EAA can claim any thing they want, but legally they only have
rights to the name of the fly-in. They definitely do not have the
rights over any photographs shot there as it is a public airport and
grounds. Photos shot in their hangers, or museum are a different
matter.

Now they could sue some one, but unless they got a really sympathetic
ear they would lose and risk the possibility of a very expensive
counter suit. What we as individuals can not do (without their
blessings) is to use the trademark name of airventure

It's also been my impression as Tyson has stated, they have never
pushed the issue and I don't think they would unless some one was
using their trade name for their own purposes.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)
>> http://www.eaa.org/trademark_policy.html ), but try it at a NASCAR
>> event sometime, their lawyers will be on you faster than than you can say
>> Tony Stewart.
>>
>> Not all your pictures are of aircraft in the sky anyway (not that it makes
>any difference).
>>
>>
>