150HP Grumman Super Yankee FS Price Reduced!

[Bill Berle]

Greetings rec.aviation groups, hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!

I am still in need of selling my Super Yankee, and although I have had
more than 50 inquiries nobody has actually laid down the money to buy
it. I truly wish I didn't need to let it go, however I must do so.

The price had been listed at $26,000 firm, which is several thousand
under the real value of the aircraft. To make it even more attractive,
and specifically to eliminate the tire kickers taking any more of my
time, I will reduce the price now to $24,000 cash firm firm for a
quick sale. For the price of an average 108HP AA-1, you can have a
well above average 150 HP AA-1 with less than 400 SMOH, a fresh annual
inspection, several upgrades and enhancements, and turn-key reliable.
Delivery within 300 miles of Los Angeles is included in the price.

Full details of the airplane can be found in my previous posts to this
group. It was IFR certified once, and can easily be IFR certified
again.

Because of the extremely large percentage of tire-kickers and
non-serious inquiries thus far, I MUST screen out the wheat from the
chaff to minimize the time that is wasted. One exterior photo and one
brief e-mail is all I will send out, until a potential buyer has
contacted me by telephone and convinced me that they are serious
enough to warrant more. Interested parties must COUNT on taking the
time to see the airplane BEFORE asking me to send logbook copies,
fingerprints, hair samples, oil samples, lists of equipment, serial
numbers, tire inflation pressure, and any detailed info or paperwork
requests. Chain of title paperwork inquiries, title searches, logbook
inspections, pre-buy inspection deals, verification of electrolyte
level in the battery, and every other conceivable detail will only be
discussed here in my hangar face to face after we've agreed that we
pretty much will have a sale. Sincerely sorry for my attitude on this,
but you can thank all the time wasters and wannabees who burned up
weeks of my time.

If you are serious, if you have the money in hand, and if you have
ALREADY secured permission from: your
wife/partner/psychic/guru/bank/loan shark/Elvis , and if you do NOT
have to wait for: your kids to graduate/your Viagra to kick in/your
commission check/your retirement check/your lottery winnings then you
are welcome to call me at home, 818-990-2748 and we can discuss this
in greater detail. DO NOT use the e-mail link listed on this group to
contact me!!! Use auster5 (at) earthlink (dot)net . Offhanded
e-mails saying only "please send photos and info" will not be treated
as serious inquiries, and I'll simply re-direct you to read this post
again. Sorry AGAIN for the "attitude", but some of you have experience
with selling airplanes and dealing with tire kickers like I have!

Bill Berle
Sherman Oaks, CA

[BTIZ]

what... no URL link for all those tire kickers?


"Bill Berle" > wrote in message
m...
> Greetings rec.aviation groups, hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!
>
> I am still in need of selling my Super Yankee, and although I have had
> more than 50 inquiries nobody has actually laid down the money to buy
> it. I truly wish I didn't need to let it go, however I must do so.
>
> The price had been listed at $26,000 firm, which is several thousand
> under the real value of the aircraft. To make it even more attractive,
> and specifically to eliminate the tire kickers taking any more of my
> time, I will reduce the price now to $24,000 cash firm firm for a
> quick sale. For the price of an average 108HP AA-1, you can have a
> well above average 150 HP AA-1 with less than 400 SMOH, a fresh annual
> inspection, several upgrades and enhancements, and turn-key reliable.
> Delivery within 300 miles of Los Angeles is included in the price.
>
> Full details of the airplane can be found in my previous posts to this
> group. It was IFR certified once, and can easily be IFR certified
> again.
>
> Because of the extremely large percentage of tire-kickers and
> non-serious inquiries thus far, I MUST screen out the wheat from the
> chaff to minimize the time that is wasted. One exterior photo and one
> brief e-mail is all I will send out, until a potential buyer has
> contacted me by telephone and convinced me that they are serious
> enough to warrant more. Interested parties must COUNT on taking the
> time to see the airplane BEFORE asking me to send logbook copies,
> fingerprints, hair samples, oil samples, lists of equipment, serial
> numbers, tire inflation pressure, and any detailed info or paperwork
> requests. Chain of title paperwork inquiries, title searches, logbook
> inspections, pre-buy inspection deals, verification of electrolyte
> level in the battery, and every other conceivable detail will only be
> discussed here in my hangar face to face after we've agreed that we
> pretty much will have a sale. Sincerely sorry for my attitude on this,
> but you can thank all the time wasters and wannabees who burned up
> weeks of my time.
>
> If you are serious, if you have the money in hand, and if you have
> ALREADY secured permission from: your
> wife/partner/psychic/guru/bank/loan shark/Elvis , and if you do NOT
> have to wait for: your kids to graduate/your Viagra to kick in/your
> commission check/your retirement check/your lottery winnings then you
> are welcome to call me at home, 818-990-2748 and we can discuss this
> in greater detail. DO NOT use the e-mail link listed on this group to
> contact me!!! Use auster5 (at) earthlink (dot)net . Offhanded
> e-mails saying only "please send photos and info" will not be treated
> as serious inquiries, and I'll simply re-direct you to read this post
> again. Sorry AGAIN for the "attitude", but some of you have experience
> with selling airplanes and dealing with tire kickers like I have!
>
> Bill Berle
> Sherman Oaks, CA

[Matthew P. Cummings]

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:47:38 -0800, Bill Berle wrote:

> level in the battery, and every other conceivable detail will only be
> discussed here in my hangar face to face after we've agreed that we
> pretty much will have a sale. Sincerely sorry for my attitude on this,
> but you can thank all the time wasters and wannabees who burned up
> weeks of my time.

If you're serious about selling and don't want to waste your time, then
you would do well you establish a webpage with all the specs you don't
want to give out to each and every caller.

I had a friend do that and he listed every major part that was replaced
and times on them, i.e. clutch replacement, mag replacement, overhaul,
etc. You get the point. So from that page you could see pics and get
every spec you'd want. He sold the plane very quickly that way and didn't
have to deal with tire kickers.

What you have to understand is that a buyer wants to know if it's worth
his time to travel that far to check it out, if you won't provide the
information to convince the buyer to travel then you won't sell and it'll
be just another tire kicker, when it could have been a sale.

Do the webpage, it'll save you time.

[Snowbird]

(Bill Berle) wrote in message >...

> I am still in need of selling my Super Yankee, and although I have had
> more than 50 inquiries nobody has actually laid down the money to buy
> it.

I'm sorry to hear that. Out of curiousity, do you belong to the AYA
or the Grumman Gang? Have you listed or advertised your plane there?
Since those of us who are 'Grumman Afficionados" often send prospective
buyers to these groups, they might be a good source of people who are
serious and ready to buy. Also, Gary Vogt ("Gold Country Aviation")
used to list Grummans on his website, might be worth checking out.

> Because of the extremely large percentage of tire-kickers and
> non-serious inquiries thus far, I MUST screen out the wheat from the
> chaff <.....> Interested parties must COUNT on taking the
> time to see the airplane BEFORE asking me to send logbook copies,
> fingerprints, hair samples, oil samples, lists of equipment, serial
> numbers, tire inflation pressure, and any detailed info or paperwork
> requests. Chain of title paperwork inquiries, title searches, logbook
> inspections, pre-buy inspection deals, verification of electrolyte
> level in the battery, and every other conceivable detail will only be
> discussed here in my hangar face to face after we've agreed that we
> pretty much will have a sale.

Frankly, Bill, and meaning no offense: I entered into an agreement
to buy a Grumman Tiger in Sacramento, complete with cash deposit
and written contract, sight unseen. I flew out commercial, did
the prepurchase, and flew the plane home.

There is no way I'd have done it faced with your restrictions.

Looking at it from the other side of the fence, for every tire-kicker
there is a seller who is seriously misrepresenting his airplane, either
blindly or deliberately, and who makes it not worth the buyer's time
and money to travel.

If I couldn't get a complete equipment list with serial numbers, a set
of photos, and some kind of maintenance history including photocopies
of the engine overhaul, ADs, and recent maintenance, AND make some
reasonable agreement for a prepurchase inspection, it certainly
wasn't worth my time and money to buy a plane ticket and travel to see
the plane. In fact, I had complete photocopies of all the logs for
our plane before I made my offer.

I can understand you not wanting to waste your time, but there would
seem to be no reason you couldn't put a lot of the basic information
on a web page and just refer prospective purchasers there. There
are a number of services offering web space for free, so it doesn't
cost you anything but 1 time setup.

There still seems to be a reasonable market for a good, well-equipped,
well-maintained Grumman, in the right circles.

Good luck,
Sydney

[markjen]

Hire a broker or sell it wholesale. If doing the "marketing thing" bothers
you this much and/or you're as bad at it as your post suggests, then pay
someone else to do it. Life's too short.

- Mark

[Paul Lee]

(Bill Berle) wrote in message >...
> Greetings rec.aviation groups, hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving!
> ..... Sorry AGAIN for the "attitude", but some of you have experience
> with selling airplanes and dealing with tire kickers like I have!
>
> Bill Berle
> Sherman Oaks, CA

Hey Bill,

Most potential buyers want more info before they waste time going
to see it. An acceptable procedure is to post your sale on a website
with all the info, photo's etc. So that you will NOT be bothered with
those who want the info and are not interested. This is the 21st century.
You can also list your plane on many sites for free WITH photos and
all the info. An example is: http://www.chooseyouritem.com

Whats wrong with that?

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